Pope John Paul has died

[wum]

Originally Posted by Custard

^^ where does your knowledge come from? or are you just guessing?

this dude says so

[Custard]

^lol!

[-ff-]

Originally Posted by wum

do homos have an agenda of world domination or what?

uh, I dont know about world domination, but I'm pretty sure they have an agenda for not being discriminated against.

[baby-phat]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Yeah, and you know this because you had him over for tea and crumpits last month, or from what you heard of him through the predominant media?

I don't claim who he is as a person, because I only know him from what I've seen on public appearances and such, where he is playing a role. I don't claim who he is as a person, because I don't know. You don't either. However, if you bother to look into the symbolism he flaunted, you would know that he is in cohoots with some very powerful fraternal orders and secret societies that institute the beliefs of many in this thread. Sorry but the truth hurts.

I think you have way too much time on your hands my dear. Alot of very interesting/intriguing (sp?) ideas but way too much time.
What I meant by what I said was just that he seemed to do alot of good for people in general. So therefore that is just my opinion. And I am entitled to it. I'm not very religious or even anti-religious so I never really paid any attention what-so-ever to whatever kind of symbolisms the pope had apparantly flaunted.
I didn't post to argue with you so I am just not going to bother anymore.

[Ms.Tarantula]

im not extremely religeous... but he gave most of his life effort to promoting world peace, so hey, im cool with the guy :)

sadly, everyone has a time to go... im happy for him that he lived his life so full.

RIP

[Anjew]

hey mark paul if ya don't liek it.
then dont' worry about it. you seem to be very passionate on the fact that the pope is evil.
did he burn down your ancestors homes? if so i understand and i will pray for you.

[Special-K]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

The truth hurts, cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.

do people still say that kind of thing still?? wow.

[Draven GD]

i have been open about my ceptisicm in the church. though i am not anti - christians, many good people chose to follow a righteous cause, and christianity does incourage and reward those morels.

that said Pope John Paul has lead a more hounerable life than i. this man made a positive change in the world durring his life time, what can you leave behind greater than that.(selfisness becomes irrelevent when you leave your self behind)

personaly i respect and admire those darring, and devoted enough to leave a positive lasting mark on the earth. some of my insirations include: Bruce Lee, Ghandi, Luther King, Leonardo, Bob Marley, Princess Diana, Terry Fox.... legends in my eyes who deserve the title legend. Pope John Paul stands with these inspirations in my eyes. this is an example of a man who figured out what was right for him, so decided to uphold those beliefs, and act on them. if only 1/4 of the rest of the population had even 1/4 of this mans conviction, we would be able, as a whole, to create a world for our children surrounded by positive reprocusions, as apposed to our degradeing cultures and ideals...

May God watch over you, or again in the way i like to say it PLUR

[Toxxin Ephekt]

I didn't really know anything about the pope...I'm christian...but not in practice tho...

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

I didn't really know anything about the pope...I'm christian...but not in practice tho...

if you dont even really know what you are following, why call yourself a christian? now you have just taken on responsibilitys and restrictions imposed by someone you dont know, for some reason you dont know why, so that you may go to heaven, though you dont know (no one does + not even practiceing)

i believe that if i were to call myself a christain, the only thing would be any 1)differnt is praying, 2)attending church, 3)and giveing a honerable men(cleregy) right to direct my life in the direction of rightiousness.
1)i work through my problems internaly, as a praying man does, but he feels comforted that somehow he is reciveing help.
2)relations and connections created there often prove founded. lessons tought there do ease your hardships throughout life. to be a good person it sometimes helps to surround yourself with good people. additionaly there is someone to turn to for help in the house of God. again comforting.
2)i think clearly out away from others and there atempts to perswaid my choices. i make life decions, and ponder aspects of my life most often when im hikeing, appreciateing the beauty of my surroundings such as a lake or river, or just walking long distances.
*-if you believe God put all this wildlife and diversity here, then i assume you will believe that it was inteded for us to make the most of, the best way we know how. :D
3)an hounerable leader will reward your loyalty by ensureing you lead the life you know you should be liveing. your contrabution will serve a cause with worth. a leader should strive to keep everyone depending on him approatly prepaired and informed. comfortable to think someones looking out for you.
my beliefs tell me to lead that life. im of the oppinion that i am only acciveing my purpose in life when i test myself and make the right choices baised on morel fiber, and a true characters worth. if my life is dictated by another, then any other human could be there and it would make no difference. this is not a way to make a mark in life. despite the fact that i cant say im christain anymore i give credit to others likeminded(imposed or enlightend) and enjoy aiding in the churchs projects occationaly. causes sought for, investigated, confidently undertaken, and accived through personal conviction, can never be matched.. my life has tought me lessons hard to accsept sometimes, but i have developed inquisitive, and skeptical initial responces. i take the time to mentaly run through my choices, where they come from, why they were shared with me, and what i need from here, or how i can use new inforation later. my independence reaches far enough to live the life handed to you as an active christain without the benifits. and when i have done it, i will i know i accived my lifes best! i will never have to think "is this what i would really want to have done with my one and only chance at life."

yet, anyone who takes the higher rd and has conviction to stick with it, no matter how deep the water gets, is admirable. this person earned an inspirational regard. the religous accspetance is irrelevent in this case. i try never to think less of anyone for makeing a choice i didnt. for it they have learned something i didnt and has something to share, the person opposing you is your greatest allie.
but what i wanted to say in this paragraph is a man who serves a cause such as feeding 3rd world contry refugees, is not only better himself for doing so, but also has made a better world. Hindu, Seek, Christian, Morman, Cathlic, Celtic, Tribal, Meditrainen baised, believers of Gia, or scientoligests.... all promote a better self and a better world. too much weight is placed on ritual and structured faiths. the actions and morels of the individual are the only way to judge anyone. though to think less of someone for makeing choices contrary to your own is arrogent. first you must be completely assured that there is no chance you have made the wrong choice. this is never easy.

damn everyones sick of listening to me now...

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

if you dont even really know what you are following, why call yourself a christian? now you have just taken on responsibilitys and restrictions imposed by someone you dont know, for some reason you dont know why, so that you may go to heaven, though you dont know (no one does + not even practiceing)

i believe that if i were to call myself a christain, the only thing would be any 1)differnt is praying, 2)attending church, 3)and giveing a honerable men(cleregy) right to direct my life in the direction of rightiousness.
1)i work through my problems internaly, as a praying man does, but he feels comforted that somehow he is reciveing help.
2)relations and connections created there often prove founded. lessons tought there do ease your hardships throughout life. to be a good person it sometimes helps to surround yourself with good people. additionaly there is someone to turn to for help in the house of God. again comforting.
2)i think clearly out away from others and there atempts to perswaid my choices. i make life decions, and ponder aspects of my life most often when im hikeing, appreciateing the beauty of my surroundings such as a lake or river, or just walking long distances.
*-if you believe God put all this wildlife and diversity here, then i assume you will believe that it was inteded for us to make the most of, the best way we know how. :D
3)an hounerable leader will reward your loyalty by ensureing you lead the life you know you should be liveing. your contrabution will serve a cause with worth. a leader should strive to keep everyone depending on him approatly prepaired and informed. comfortable to think someones looking out for you.
my beliefs tell me to lead that life. im of the oppinion that i am only acciveing my purpose in life when i test myself and make the right choices baised on morel fiber, and a true characters worth. if my life is dictated by another, then any other human could be there and it would make no difference. this is not a way to make a mark in life. despite the fact that i cant say im christain anymore i give credit to others likeminded(imposed or enlightend) and enjoy aiding in the churchs projects occationaly. causes sought for, investigated, confidently undertaken, and accived through personal conviction, can never be matched.. my life has tought me lessons hard to accsept sometimes, but i have developed inquisitive, and skeptical initial responces. i take the time to mentaly run through my choices, where they come from, why they were shared with me, and what i need from here, or how i can use new inforation later. my independence reaches far enough to live the life handed to you as an active christain without the benifits. and when i have done it, i will i know i accived my lifes best! i will never have to think "is this what i would really want to have done with my one and only chance at life."

yet, anyone who takes the higher rd and has conviction to stick with it, no matter how deep the water gets, is admirable. this person earned an inspirational regard. the religous accspetance is irrelevent in this case. i try never to think less of anyone for makeing a choice i didnt. for it they have learned something i didnt and has something to share, the person opposing you is your greatest allie.
but what i wanted to say in this paragraph is a man who serves a cause such as feeding 3rd world contry refugees, is not only better himself for doing so, but also has made a better world. Hindu, Seek, Christian, Morman, Cathlic, Celtic, Tribal, Meditrainen baised, believers of Gia, or scientoligests.... all promote a better self and a better world. too much weight is placed on ritual and structured faiths. the actions and morels of the individual are the only way to judge anyone. though to think less of someone for makeing choices contrary to your own is arrogent. first you must be completely assured that there is no chance you have made the wrong choice. this is never easy.

damn everyones sick of listening to me now...

holy shit...I just scrolled down your post and saw how long it was, I don't even wanna waste time reading it....no offence. I'm not a hardcore religion prophet..

[Jen-E-03]

It's a sad thing for someone to die, but I never agreed with half the things he said n e ways. I really dont like the whole catholic religion altogether because it's against birth control, abortions, homosexuality, divorce etc.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Oh definately it's sad to see a someone die, but its life...can't avoid whats gonna happen one day....I respect anyone who deserves it.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by Bozga

I was born in Rome, I was baptised by the Pope... this is one day in history that will not be taken lightly. Pope John Paul II was the first non Italian Pope, he was Polish might I add, he spoke 8 languages fluently and has virtually been in ever country in the world. It will be hard to pick a new Pope that will live up to what John Paul II has done.
R.I.P

On CNN they said he spoke 13 languages, crazy.....

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

Oh definately it's sad to see a someone die, but its life...can't avoid whats gonna happen one day....I respect anyone who deserves it.

when you say "deserves it" are you refureing to death. insiuateing death is something you must work towards? im interested


sorry people, i guess i have alot of oppionon on this topic, but its out of the system now i think :P

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

when you say "deserves it" are you refureing to death. insiuateing death is something you must work towards? im interested


sorry people, i guess i have alot of oppionon on this topic, but its out of the system now i think :P

No dude, i don't mean he deserved to die...I said I respect anyone who deserves respect. And he deserves respect, that's it.

[esoter1c]

If Only The Dogma He Promulgated Died With Him.

*Picture removed. Sorry, it was SOOOOO big. :(

-kiMMie

[cubed]

someone needs to disconnect mark paul's internet access.

the shadow people are using it to read his dreams.

[esoter1c]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^

I Think You Mean The Aliens.

[kiMMie]

May he rest in peace. Vaya Con Dios.

*sign of the cross

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by cubed

someone needs to disconnect mark paul's internet access.

the shadow people are using it to read his dreams.

after 18 hits of lsd.. they usually dissapear.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

sorry people, i guess i have alot of oppionon on this topic, but its out of the system now i think :P

Well thank god because you sure as hell can't spell to save your life.

Next time you have strong opinions on something, it's also a great idea to actually know what you're talking about. Try to keep that in mind for next time.

[DJ Ponz]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

On CNN they said he spoke 13 languages, crazy.....

And two doctorates to boot!

[Draven GD]

I know what i know. if you think im missing something, enlighten me! :)

i do appologize for the spelling everyone, dislexsic (cant even sp it..lol)


about the deserveing death thing, i dont meen that in a dissrespectful way. it sounded to me as though your philosophys veiwed death in a reward or accivement type outlook. it sounded interesting... i guess you werent there with me on that train of thought.

[{dC!}]

R.i.p. :(