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Apr 13, 05
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Help me fine tune my theory
**Disclaimer. This is MY theory, not yours. It's coming from my point of view, being a rural child"
Ok, I have this theory about the relationships (not just romantic) I forge with people and their location of upbringing as a child. I seem to get along with people who, like myself, were brought up in a rural environment as opposed to an urban one. I often find them to be more grounded, balanced and genuine ("real" if you like). They seem to have a quite different perspective than those brought up in urban environments, epsecially sub-urban environments. I believe that by being brought up closer to nature and further away from media and countless other influencing factors you are given a chance in early developement to learn about yourself. (I also believe self knowledge is an extremly powerful tool) THE ESSENCE of all of this is: You are given a chance to discover who you are before someone has a chance to tell you who you are supposed to be. One of the ways I can explain certain personality types being correlated with being exposed to nature is a more developed and practised skill of interpreting randomness. Nature is as close to being completly random as anything and being exposed to this during childhood gives you a different perception of everyday events than those brought up in an environment of straight lines, squares and circles that the urban environment is made up of. What do you think? Am I talking out of my ass? 
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Apr 13, 05
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I definately think there is some validity to this, but i think you need more numbers, and to explore this further. I love social experiments like. I fall into the category of sub-urbanites, but i also used to do a lot of camping. But have lacked any communion to nature in the past while, which could explain a lot of recent events. Anyways, lemme know what else you find, i'd like to see some of your results.
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Apr 13, 05
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I found that having lived and grown up half in the city and half on an island near the Queen Charlotte's taught me the difference between the two really well.
In the bush I learned a lot about my impact and relationship with life around me, where as in the city you could get away with anything. My favorite memories ALL come from building tree forts with branches and yeah, I really enjoy the company of anyone who has that free-spirited comfort with MAD bushwacking and killer mountain climbing skills!
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Apr 13, 05
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This theory came straight out of my head from my own personal experiences. So really, it could only be my own delusion.
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Apr 13, 05
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I personaly belive your right that there is a difrence in ppl brought up in rural area compared to urban city.
However I disagree with your statment that ppl from rural area's know them selfs better than those who grow up in the urban city were "you are told who you are" as I personaly "found myself" and felt much mroe grounded after traveling none-stop palce to palce meeting new ppl everyday. However said that... one theory of mine is that happend based on the fact I didnt have familey, freinds, work influenecing me at all. Personaly I think rural ppl differ from urban ppl based on the fact that life is more simple making it much more relaxing. I personaly feel more at soul when living in a rural area (freindly/trust/neighbors/freinds since you were a todler etc) Also because your in a more simple enviroment this may encurage creativity compared to were you grow up depending on exciting things to be thrown at you. Last edited by Ree Fresh; Apr 13, 05 at 11:15 PM.
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Apr 13, 05
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It really depends. There were very few young people around where I grew up and things were VERY cliquey. It was tough for outsiders to move in and the kids were pretty snobby. I didn't so much find the isolation formed a sense of self, so much as created a bunch of small-town, alcoholic jerks. When I go back to visit there's hardly anyone I feel like talking to, or who would bother to try and talk to me.
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Apr 13, 05
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A child can only benefit being surrounded with nature. In nature you find so many diversities that aren't found in the cities and suburbias. If a person grows up in a city and doesn't get to experience natural life where you can actually feel the impact of such simple things like weather for instance then they haven't really even lived according to my established standard of life.
But it also goes both ways...there's things that you need to succeed as a human being in todays world that you may not aqcuire in the boons like work ethic and self image marketing for instance;P Wild strawberries taste SOOO GOOD!!
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Apr 13, 05
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I think its all about the person. Take a monkey put it in the city and you still have a monkey. Take a prick and put him in nature, and you still have a prick. It's all about the family life, how you were taught and educated. Not your surroundings. They influence you in a different level IMO.
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Apr 13, 05
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^ not neccessarily true
not everyone is absolutely in tune with nature, and not everyone wants to be. it all depends on the type of ppl. some ppl can be completely surrounded by nature for the first few years of their life, and then move to a city and absolutely love and stay there. it all depends on where the person feels comfortable.
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Apr 13, 05
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What you and rural people might consider to be a "real" self would be completely different than that for urban people, and vice versa.........other than what you say is true, people brought up under similar circumstances do relate to each other alot better than they can to others period.
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Apr 13, 05
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brian. u can find people like yerself...more grounded anywhere...
i believe its how children are brought up....family values, parents, school, friends, other siblings... for instance, u were the youngest....which means u probably grew up fast cause u had an old sibling....i was the oldest....i matured more now, then i did when i was in my late teens.... my sister who is 14 acts like shes 20 cause she had 2 older siblings... ~dalyn Last edited by Liqwid; Apr 14, 05 at 12:05 AM.
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Apr 14, 05
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I agree with you Bobby... Being from the middle-of-nowhere myself I find that I get along way better with fellow Islanders etc. I do have good friends from an Urban setting but sometimes I find that we just don't quite relate the same way.
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Apr 14, 05
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I agree with you brian, to a certain degree, cause for the most part the ppl that grew up in the city aren't really exposed to nature.
But what about the families that like to do the camping thing, travel, fish, and all the tings we do out here in the bush. Granted they don't live with it, but they still have the opurtunity to experience it. And vice versa.
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Apr 14, 05
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edit: long post, but i hope you read it anyway :)
hmm, it's an interesting thought brian, but i don't really agree. just for starters, i am a city/suburban boy...i've never lived in the country or far from a city. the closest place i've lived to that is white rock...which is more like suburban hell than a forest. for one thing, you talk about how: "Nature is as close to being completly random as anything". it all depends on how you define random. i mean, sure the city is made up of more symetrical geometric shapes and everything is placed on city blocks and with great care; whereas in nature trees grow where the seeds fall and everything seems to just grow wild. but i would hardly say nature is random. in every process in nature there are extremely specific and detailed events that have to occur for things to happen. i mean, i haven't taken many science courses, but i know from biology and chemistry even in highschool that reactions and growth that happen in nature are very complex and highly organized processes. nature may look random on the outside, but i would say it's WAY more organized and orderly than anything humans could come up with in the city. living in a city, i would say that a city is way more random experience than when i go camping. if you put a whole bunch of people in one place, who think differently and have different cultures, languages, morals, values, lives (etc...) who knows what's going to happen? this is opposed to in nature, where most of the time we know if we mix these chemicals together, or put this seed in the ground, that a predicted reaction will occur. now for your point about being brought up far away from media. well, unforunately it's getting harder and harder to get away from the influences of media in our society. i will agree that if you live out far far away in the country in the middle of the woods and never watch TV or listen to the radio or read the newspaper then you can be taken away from the influences of the media, but i don't think that's what you mean by living in country. granted, there is WAY more advertising in suburban and especially city places than in country towns, but exposure to other forms of media are all your own doing. for example, i hardly watch TV...i've never really watched that much TV. my parents raised me reading books instead of watching the boob-tube, and even though we lived in suburban/city areas, television was never a big part of my life. so it all depends on yourself and whether or not you plan to watch a lot of television and let the media become a big influence in your life. people in the country can get the same television stations as people in the city now that we have satellite and all those other fancy things, it all depends on whether or not you're going to watch them. so in conclusion, i don't really beleive that people in the country get a better chance to discover who they are before the media gets a chance to tell them who they are. that all depends on you and your parents and whether you/they decide the media is going to have an important role in your life. i do think that people born in the country and in the city are different though, don't get me wrong. i just don't think those are the reasons that they are different. i know from some of my friends in white rock who lived in the boonies and grew up on farms and everything did a lot more hardwork than i did (farm kind of hard work). i'm sure that builds a lot of character and toughness. but you get different values from living in suburban/city areas. you learn how to grow up with lots of people, maybe develop your social skills better? maybe develop a more diverse way of thinking and more acceptable of different forms of lifestyles because you are around more different forms of lifestyles. sorry that was so long, i just thought it was a really interesting topic brian :)
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Apr 14, 05
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Well, I think that I would tend to agree more with the original post. I am from a small city, but I would mostly consider it "rural" - if any of you know Chilliwack, you would probably agree. I would say that living with nothing to do makes you come up with things... you have to entertain yourself and learn to survive with only yourself and a close group of friends... or else you turn to drugs/alcohol. Don't get me wrong - a lot of ppl do go for the drugs and alcohol, it is an easy way out. But, for those who don't, they really get a strong sense of themselves. As for Sidekick's post - I would say that you would be an exception to the rule - not the rule itself. but, that's just my opinion. I grew up mainly the same, I read more than I have ever watched t.v... and at this point in my life I would say that I am completely detached from media - my ONLY source of news is fnk or word of mouth. I do not watch tv (don't own it), don't listen to the radio or read the newspaper... and I like it that way. I think that it makes it easier to take what you do see with a grain of salt. Anyways, don't want to make this a long post... I think you all get what I mean.
~ Asheai
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Apr 14, 05
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^ lol Chilliwack isn't that rural... you're an hours drive from a major Population Centre.
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Apr 14, 05
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like i said, i do think that the environment you grow up in determines some of a persons character, but i think more emphasis needs to be put on the parents or other agents of socialization that determine whether a kid is going to spend hours in front of a television or go outside and play, whether it is in a city park or a country field.
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