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Old Apr 24, 05
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I'm sure there's more to this bias, huh?
Please tell me you're not playing the race card because that would be lame. I don't think that's why people dislike it. I think it's more disliked because it only represents a small part of who we are, not because we're trying to hate on the Inuit. That's just crazy talk!

I liked Forwerd's idea of a totem pole with the 'animals' being symbols representing different cultures that have roots in our country. It would effectively represent first nations heritage but also allow for other facets of our multicultural society to be shown as well.
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Please tell me you're not playing the race card because that would be lame. I don't think that's why people dislike it. I think it's more disliked because it only represents a small part of who we are, not because we're trying to hate on the Inuit. That's just crazy talk!

I liked Forwerd's idea of a totem pole with the 'animals' being symbols representing different cultures that have roots in our country. It would effectively represent first nations heritage but also allow for other facets of our multicultural society to be shown as well.

Its just a typical reaction and sentiment to the subject, I didn't create the rules. I mean " to keep the natives quiet/happy cuz the Olympics are on their land" etc. etc." is kinda funny.
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Y'know, it's really too bad that they didn't pick something a little more in-depth that shows what our city/province is about. *sigh*
The Inuit symbol wouldn't be so bad if we had a large Inuit population, know what I mean? It may symbolize Canada but not BC in particular.
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A Haida symbol...how hard is it understand that Haida symbolism is seriously west coast?
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for all we know, a symbol representing Vancouver for the olympics would have been a gay pride flag!! How's that?


An aside: I got a warning lastnite for not having a skytrain ticket, " i'm intown from Calgary" which i am, i acted like a tourist. The fine is $173 !!! Holy fuck. I told the transit cop "anything for the olympics, heheheh".

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Hmm..

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Its just a typical reaction and sentiment to the subject, I didn't create the rules. I mean " to keep the natives quiet/happy cuz the Olympics are on their land" etc. etc." is kinda funny.
I see your point but you have to admit that kind of reaction isn't completely unfounded. People are sick to death of hearing about stand-offs, road blocks, land claims, tax breaks, free education, etc....

I'm not saying I necessarily agree but I understand that sentiment.

As for the symbol itself, I agree that it really has a beautiful and unique meaning behind it. As a whole it DOES represent a lot of what the Olympics should stand for, you can't argue that. If people read up on the info that is on the page you posted they'll be able to see that for themselves. You can't argue that it caters to a small group though. I REALLY thought that the symbol for the games would be a little better at representing our multiculturalism... it just seems to one-sided for my liking.

That being said, even though they chose this as the logo it could have easily been better portrayed. It looks way too much like a kindergarten kid's drawing.
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Those red stripes are regulators! Basically they're are all pissed off, retired cops with an agenda.
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for all we know, a symbol representing Vancouver for the olympics would have been a gay pride flag!! How's that?
Dude.... it does have rainbow colors???? :)
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I see your point but you have to admit that kind of reaction isn't completely unfounded. People are sick to death of hearing about stand-offs, road blocks, land claims, tax breaks, free education, etc....
Of course, there's always bias with native issues in Canada. I just kinda sick of hearing it, not that i'm remotely interested in Olympic shit, like i said.

I'm part native, a mut / half breed. : ) If only you knew what Canadian native politics was like... what a can of worms THAT is.

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shoulda gone with a pot leaf
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It works for me. Not for anything to do with aboriginese.

At every rave I've been to at forestry pools, people are making those statues. In fact, I find one at just about every rock beach that's populated by people of any sorts.

Historically it's a native thing, but frankly I see it as a subtle yet present part of modern day BC culture.

The obvious option is a pot leaf. Good luck clearing that one.
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I'm not partial to this logo.........as had been said before it looks like a child drew it.....and compared to past logos it kinda seems to lack imagination......maybe they were looking for something alot differeent from past olympics but haven't all previous logos been drawn as if they were an image seen in the fire of the torch?........I'm curious as to why they decided to change this long time tradition and replace it with something that is so different
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I'm not partial to this logo.........as had been said before it looks like a child drew it.....and compared to past logos it kinda seems to lack imagination......maybe they were looking for something alot differeent from past olympics but haven't all previous logos been drawn as if they were an image seen in the fire of the torch?........I'm curious as to why they decided to change this long time tradition and replace it with something that is so different
Every single Olympic logo I've ever seen looks like a child drew it, or that a child can draw it.

You think Sydney still wants everybody to know them for the Opera House? Like that isn't the most tired symbol of that city.

It's just a logo. Why the hell do people care so much?

See, this is what BC seems to _really_ be about: Bitching about corporate art.
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^ I think ppl care so much because it is supposed to represent all of us........not just one group of us
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It's just a logo. Why the hell do people care so much?

See, this is what BC seems to _really_ be about: Bitching about corporate art.
I assumed you were a lot smarter than you're coming off right now Dave. Why do we care? That logo represents our country, our province, and our city to the world for the 2010 games. It's going to be all over the place for people all over the world to see.

Now one would assume that if something is supposed to represent a culture that it would at least semi-accurately reflect who we are as a people... ALL OF US, NOT SOME OF US. This has nothing to do with bitching about corporate art... that's the stupidest thing said in this thread so far. I'm not trying to make a personal attack by any means but sorry man, it's true. It has everything to do with being represented in a way that we feel covers our society as a whole.

Maybe it doesn't do much for you but I think a lot of people take immense pride in the Olympics coming to Vancouver. I know I do. The world is coming to my doorstep and I plan on being a part of it as much as possible. You ask why people care? They care because they want to represent their culture yet the chosen logo doesn't reflect who they are in the slightest.

My 2cents.....
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oh well I have no fonts on my PC so I could not match it up.
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^You're right Lawrence, it IS an Inuit logo.... the inuit are still natives IMO. They were here well before us white folk came and screwed the place up :)
I was gonna say, it'll be a long hard search to find an Inukshuk ANYWHERE in B.C. as they are not an artifact of Natives from this part of Canada. Try North of 60 folks... on a related side-note they do look pretty cool as I've seen them by Tuktoyaktuk. :)
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There is so much more to BC and Canada than the natives... if they really wanted to portray us properly the logo could have been more multicultural in origin. I guess it's not like I had any ideas for the logo myself but still, not a good choice IMO.
This bothered me alot too when I was in Australia. The country would totaly bost about the aberiginals, the art work, the culture etc... definently a great way to make money. Ironicly the only aberiginals I saw in Sydney were begging for change out side the suveiner shops that where owned by imigrated asians.

I think lawrence is right... looks more Inuit than any BC band. Like my example with Australia I think having a native symbol is just going for the marketing gimic than anything else.

Politics aside... its no original "Olympic" design. I dont want to know how much they paid their best friend to pick a well known desighn and colour in the blocks with Oylipic colours.

Do I like it? Its not bad... but I think they could of come up with somthing way more original/intresting if they wanted to impress the rest of the wrold.

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ps: whats the purpal part of the mascot representing?


So not only is it NOT representing none natives... but the females too
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So, what would better represent Canadian culture? A hockey player? A Tim Horton's Donut?
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ok here's a logo better suited to honer our native population in Vancouver.
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I assumed you were a lot smarter than you're coming off right now Dave. Why do we care? That logo represents our country, our province, and our city to the world for the 2010 games. It's going to be all over the place for people all over the world to see.

Now one would assume that if something is supposed to represent a culture that it would at least semi-accurately reflect who we are as a people... ALL OF US, NOT SOME OF US. This has nothing to do with bitching about corporate art... that's the stupidest thing said in this thread so far. I'm not trying to make a personal attack by any means but sorry man, it's true. It has everything to do with being represented in a way that we feel covers our society as a whole.

Maybe it doesn't do much for you but I think a lot of people take immense pride in the Olympics coming to Vancouver. I know I do. The world is coming to my doorstep and I plan on being a part of it as much as possible. You ask why people care? They care because they want to represent their culture yet the chosen logo doesn't reflect who they are in the slightest.

My 2cents.....
I think what will represent our country is how we handle the olympics, not just a fucking symbol.

We already represent ourselves to the rest of the world by a Maple Leaf.... What the hell does that have to do with us? Well, I guess we have trees... we also have rocks here too. So here are the rocks.

All we need is some representation of water and huzzah! Canada.

JUST A FUCKING LOGO. I'd rather represent ourselves to the world through levelheaded foreign and domestic policies than some fucking logo.

We've got trees and rocks and rocks and trees
And trees and rocks and rocks and trees
And trees and rocks and rocks and trees
And trees and rocks and rocks and trees and....
WATER!!!!!

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So, what would better represent Canadian culture? A hockey player? A Tim Horton's Donut?
yeah, i'm with you on this one. Finding one symbol to represent all our country would really be impossible, and although i'm not impressed with this logo, I really can't think of anything that would be much more "representative" of the country. If they had chosen anything else, there would me tons of other people and groups complaining about how it doesn't wholly represent Canada. So, I guess we'll just stick with the Inukshuk...
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