Vegetarian*

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by LDUB

I am just stating my opinion and disgust with the misuse and loss of meaning for the word vegetarian. I would hardly say I'm reviving it... as it's not yet lost, just misunderstood.

For the record I am a vegetarian, my boyfriend does not eat beef and pork... there is a difference and you would never catch him saying he was a vegetarian.

HAhaha*
"Back in the day" vegetarians were much more stringent with their use of the word eh?

Your boyfriend obviously knows that being a vegetarian is not someone that eats chickens, turkeys, lambs, deer and any other living thing except for pigs and cows whenever he can;P





I'm a non-smoker that has a cigarette once in a blue moon...has the word non-smoker lost meaning too?

[Carrie]

it's called a 'casual smoker'

use correct terms please

Originally Posted by lou_belle

HAhaha*
"Back in the day" vegetarians were much more stringent with their use of the word eh?

Your boyfriend obviously knows that being a vegetarian is not someone that eats chickens, turkeys, lambs, deer and any other living thing except for pigs and cows whenever he can;P





I'm a non-smoker that has a cigarette once in a blue moon...has the word non-smoker lost meaning too?

I don't think LDUB is being stringent in the use of the word Vegetarian. I think what she is pointing out is that you have claimed to be a vegetarian and how much better it has made you feel. And yet, 4 days ago, you posted a thread with a beef recipie and how good it was.

If you were to have become this "strict" vegetarian, the first phase that you would have gone through is a slump, as your body would be readjusting to the lack of protein. It would take some time to get back into your normal stride. And if you didn't feel that slump, it would take at least 7 days for you to notice the change.

I haven't eaten red meat since Monday. In fact, I have only eaten Tuna since monday, and that was yesterday. I MUST BE A VEGETARIAN NOW.

I definately don't call my self a vegetarian.

[lou_belle]

thats not hardcore enough for me

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Avana

I don't think LDUB is being stringent in the use of the word Vegetarian. I think what she is pointing out is that you have claimed to be a vegetarian and how much better it has made you feel. And yet, 4 days ago, you posted a thread with a beef recipie and how good it was.

If you were to have become this "strict" vegetarian, the first phase that you would have gone through is a slump, as your body would be readjusting to the lack of protein. It would take some time to get back into your normal stride. And if you didn't feel that slump, it would take at least 7 days for you to notice the change.

I haven't eaten red meat since Monday. In fact, I have only eaten Tuna since monday, and that was yesterday. I MUST BE A VEGETARIAN NOW.

I definately don't call my self a vegetarian.

Lack of protein eh?
I never ate meat.

I wrote a recipe saying it was yummy...I didn't say I made it. In fact I haven't made that recipe since I was like 15.

PS tuna kills dolphins;P
Like seriously...you kill dolphins when you buy tuna.

Originally Posted by lou_belle

Lack of protein eh?
I never ate meat.

I wrote a recipe saying it was yummy...I didn't say I made it. In fact I haven't made that recipe since I was like 15.

PS tuna kills dolphins;P
Like seriously...you kill dolphins when you buy tuna.

But for someone who claims they are trying to save animals, why would you post something that propagates their demise.

PS Tuna is an actual fish - if you don't believe me - see here

http://www.ncfisheries.net/fishfind/tunamack.htm

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by Haze

I draw a simple pictoor ready?

Vegetarians don't eat meat... I agree with you L-dubby one.

- ë

Fish and Poultry ARE NOT MEAT! they are fish and poultry.

i handed out alot of Karma in this thread, good and bad.
i feel the you people need to stop being so narrow minded. just to let you know there are many other people out there, and they dont all think the same way you do. why is it everyone always thinks the world comes in black and white...

i never new Vegans didnt eat honey! thats surprizing.

--cooking tofu longer than we have been a country.. lol so true..

[lou_belle]

I don't eat tuna..but I eat all other types of fish.
I LOVe dolphins.
In fact...when I grow up I'm gonna have a dolphin...seriously.
No matter what.

Originally Posted by lou_belle

I don't eat tuna..but I eat all other types of fish.
I LOVe dolphins.
In fact...when I grow up I'm gonna have a dolphin...seriously.
No matter what.

How does that pertain to the matter at hand - really? And making a dolphin your pet is no more humane than killing it.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

"Back in the day" vegetarians were much more stringent with their use of the word eh?

I think my point has flown way over you head. This has nothing to do with how vegetarians used the word "back in the day:... but how EVERYONE uses the word and how it's essentially losing it's meaning, it's definition, it's BEING. :(

You can call yourself whatever you want... but by DEFINITION you are not an herbivore and therefore not a vegetarian.

Obviously you won't concede your opinion and I won't mine... so let's leave it at this.

Oh... and on another note, let's revive our last arguement

Originally Posted by lou belle

Meat was always the last thing on my plate..and I'd give it to my dog.

I thought you always fed your dog first as it's cruel to eat in front of him when he's hungry... and I thought you never fed your dog from your plate?

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

Fish and Poultry ARE NOT MEAT! they are fish and poultry.

Vegetarians are herbivores, which means no meat poultry fish etc.

As mentioned there are adapted defintions/descriptions such as pesco/pollo vegetarian.

If you are so "open minded" yet picky on the defintion of meat I can't understand why you don't see my point here about the defintion of vegetarian.

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

I don't eat tuna..but I eat all other types of fish.
I LOVe dolphins.
In fact...when I grow up I'm gonna have a dolphin...seriously.
No matter what.

do you think it would be a good idea if someone loved you to scare the crap out of you and lock you into a small cell all alown to stare at? Dolphins are a very free animal, they shouldnt have to be put through that... but thats my oppinion.
(i hope you werent being serous)

BTW~ when i dont eat meat, its for health reasons. animals are going to die anyway, i even have leather on my shoes... but fish and poultry are actualy really good for you compaired to meat.

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by LDUB

Vegetarians are herbivores, which means no meat poultry fish etc.

As mentioned there are adapted defintions/descriptions such as pesco/pollo vegetarian.

If you are so "open minded" yet picky on the defintion of meat I can't understand why you don't see my point here about the defintion of vegetarian.

i believe that herbivores are Vegetarians.

many words in the english language have changed meenings over time.
words themselves have no meening, we use them to meen something. thats why knowing the author is just as important as knowing the prose in question


i think i have ranted all i have to rant about this. so dont worry.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

animals are going to die anyway, i even have leather on my shoes... but fish and poultry are actualy really good for you compaired to meat.

This is a different can of worms, but you realize that these animals are only being born and raised for the point of death so you can eat them right?

I'll admit I have leather shoes whatnot... I'm not trying to be preachy, i'm just pointing out a flaw in your logic.

[Draven GD]

Originally Posted by LDUB

This is a different can of worms, but you realize that these animals are only being born and raised for the point of death so you can eat them right?

I'll admit I have leather shoes whatnot... I'm not trying to be preachy, i'm just pointing out a flaw in your logic.

how the hell is that a flaw? i thought that was my point

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Dravengd

how the hell is that a flaw? i thought that was my point

You said, you eat them because they are going to die...

But if you didn't eat them, they would not be born and raised and therefore would not die.

It's not as though we are hunting wild cows here that would exist without our breeding or demand.

[Draven GD]

im sorry i wasnt very clear, i believe in not eating meat for health reasons. if someone doesnt like to eat meat to save the animals, fine, they are healther for it anyway. but i dont think that is a good reason at all. i have no problem killing animals when its needed. (well i dont really want to do it, but you know what i meen)

[Dr. Doom]

Originally Posted by matéo

I haven't ate real meat since I was 3 years old. Why? I don't know but anything like chicken, or turkey, or burgers I gag when I taste. I have never attempted steak, or ribs etc. I hate the texture of most meat. I tryed seafood for the first time last year in thailand while I was drunk. The only good part about that was I didn't pay for it and I had two beautiful women wiping my face after each bite. I do like Pepporoni, salami, bacon, and occasionally hot dogs so im not a vegetarian by any means but probably closer then those who eat fish and chicken. SUCKERS.


PS Joanne does that mean you're going to take back the karma you sent me?

Why do people look at doom like he killed a baby when he expresses the same sentiments about fruits and vegetables.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Avana

How does that pertain to the matter at hand - really? And making a dolphin your pet is no more humane than killing it.

First off, you're an idiot to think that a dolphin is better off dead.
You were technically a "pet" for the first years of your life. But I didn't say I wanted a pet dolphin...I want to have a companionship with my dolphin. I think it would be sweet*
I want to have a human/dolphin relationship to study the linguistics of these beautiful animals. Of course..I will let my dolphin go wherever he pleases and if he happens to find a pod to be free with then so be it. I honestly have researched this enough to know that dolphins are smart enough to come back for attention and really enjoy the love that humans give them.

Tuna nets catch dolphins and kill them. Hundreds die each year and the only way that I can think of to stop this is to not eat tuna;P

Oh yeah..it would have to be a saved dolphin.

[Joanne]

Originally Posted by Avana

If you were to have become this "strict" vegetarian, the first phase that you would have gone through is a slump, as your body would be readjusting to the lack of protein. It would take some time to get back into your normal stride. And if you didn't feel that slump, it would take at least 7 days for you to notice the change.

have you ever tried becoming a vegetarian? I have never heard of anyone going through a slump or a body having to readjust to a lack of protein.

the only thing that needs getting back to the normal stride is not giving into temptation and immediately wolfing down that piece of bacon when you see and smell how tasty it looks and smells. to this day, the smell of bacon is still amazing to me, although I forgot how it tastes like!. Changing any type of habit can be hard. but physically, I found no difference. and many of my other fellow veggie friends have never noticed any difference either (although perhaps this could be just because they were pretty healthy people to begin with!)

I found becoming a vegetarian to be a pretty slow process that requires adjustment. I made my decision when I was 11... but I didn't completely cut meat out until I was about 13.

and by this I mean... not eating meat for a few months, and then later being invited to a special dinner and eating meat because I did not want to seem rude... or if there was nothing else around, I would eat it just because it was there.

--Joanne :P

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by LDUB

I think my point has flown way over you head. This has nothing to do with how vegetarians used the word "back in the day:... but how EVERYONE uses the word and how it's essentially losing it's meaning, it's definition, it's BEING. :(

Well what your saying is at one time this word must have had a very strict meaning...can you tell me when?

Originally Posted by LDUB

You can call yourself whatever you want... but by DEFINITION you are not an herbivore and therefore not a vegetarian.

Obviously you won't concede your opinion and I won't mine... so let's leave it at this.

I thought we already concluded that yes I am a vegetarian...I'm a pesco vegetarian:)
bwhahaha*

Originally Posted by LDUB

Oh... and on another note, let's revive our last arguement


I thought you always fed your dog first as it's cruel to eat in front of him when he's hungry... and I thought you never fed your dog from your plate?

I feed her first and then if theres a piece of meat left over from my dish then I walk through my hallway past the kitchen to put it in her bowl and she'll hear it and come over*
oh my gawd...are you that ridiculous? You think I would lie about how I feed my pet?
bwahaha*

[Dr. Doom]

Doom hopes you get caught in a tuna net, lou belle.

[lou_belle]

Doom doesn't need to eat meat.
Doom is happiest while suckling on penis*

[Haze]

Fish and Poultry ARE NOT MEAT! they are fish and poultry.

meat (mēt) n.

n 1: the flesh of animals (including fishes and birds and snails) used as food

2: the inner and usually edible part of a seed or grain or nut or fruit stone; "black walnut kernels are difficult to get out of the shell" [syn: kernel]

3: the choicest or most essential or most vital part of some idea or experience; "the gist of the prosecutor's argument"; "the heart and soul of the Republican Party"; "the nub of the story" [syn: kernel, substance, core, center, essence, gist, heart, heart and soul, inwardness, marrow, nub, pith, sum, nitty-gritty]




I beg to differ.



-- An easier way to define a vegetarian is someone that doesn't eat anything with a pulse.

- ë

[Berta]

^agreed.