Aussie babe gets 20 years in jail for allegedly smuggling pot

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

You honestly think growers don't make that much money up here? You must be dumber than I thought. You and Wum should go out sometime you guys would make a good couple with your selective learning.

To Wum:

BC weed goes down to the US for coke, that weed gets sold down there, that money is then sent off to columbia for more coke. How does that not support the warlords and such in Columbia? Go read Hegemony or Survival by Chomsky. You of all people should know the "War on Drugs" encumpasses much more than trying to rid the streets of drugs.

I personally KNOW the growers up here don't make that much money.
I will let you believe what you wish to believe..
It seems to me that you think you're pretty damn smart.

If you're making so much god damn money then you must be slanging coke...it's a no brainer.

HAhaha*

[gnosis]

^You watch lots of CNN, don't you?

Frosty
(monitoring)

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

BC weed goes down to the US for coke, that weed gets sold down there, that money is then sent off to columbia for more coke. How does that not support the warlords and such in Columbia? Go read Hegemony or Survival by Chomsky. You of all people should know the "War on Drugs" encumpasses much more than trying to rid the streets of drugs.

BC weed goes down to the US.
The weed gets traded for coke.
The coke comes back up here for the consumers to purhase.
The cocaine consumers are now supporting terrorism.

If you actually read what you post it holds the answer right in your own words. The only problem is that somewhere along the way you got fooled into thinking that because weed is in exchange for money...weed is the problem. In reality...it's the coke that we are importing that we pay terrorist for. Marijuana is just a much more lucrative way to buy it because down there it is VERY difficult to keep a growhouse from getting busted and going to jail for life. So they want weed more than money*

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by gnosis

^You watch lots of CNN, don't you?

Frosty
(monitoring)

Nope...CNN is the biggest comedy talk show I've ever seen*

[gnosis]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

BC weed goes down to the US because they are in need of coke.

Girl, y'all are priceless!!!!!

Keep feedin' me!

I just can't stop laughing!!!

Frosty
(points, and doubles over)

[lou_belle]

oops*

Oh look u noticed a grammar mistake*
Always keeps you on your toes though...eh G-NO?

[gnosis]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

Oh look u noticed a grammar mistake*

~laughs even harder~

Frosty
(dumbass!)

[SWIFTBEATS]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

I personally KNOW the growers up here don't make that much money.
*

you KNOW the wrong people

[Leviathan]

no fucking shit, she must live in a different city than us.

Originally Posted by SWIFTBEATS

you KNOW the wrong people

[Leviathan]

You seriously need to get a proper education, you don't get it! THE WEED GETS SOLD IN THE US, that money is then used to buy coke from another country! The money to buy the coke comes from the WEED .I understand it is a cycle, but the BC grown weed is a big part of that cycle. I never said weed was the problem did I? I agree that it should be legalized but its not and this is the way it works. If you were really interested in human rights you would try to stop these grows ops and the exportation of the weed and concentrate on legalizing it, and only then could you consume it and not be a hypocrite. Either that or grow your own. This is what makes me think your more concerned about being able to smoke up than human rights.

On a side note, you talk about not going to the US ever, does this mean you don't use any products that are produced in the US?

Originally Posted by lou_belle

BC weed goes down to the US.
The weed gets traded for coke.
The coke comes back up here for the consumers to purhase.
The cocaine consumers are now supporting terrorism.

If you actually read what you post it holds the answer right in your own words. The only problem is that somewhere along the way you got fooled into thinking that because weed is in exchange for money...weed is the problem. In reality...it's the coke that we are importing that we pay terrorist for. Marijuana is just a much more lucrative way to buy it because down there it is VERY difficult to keep a growhouse from getting busted and going to jail for life. So they want weed more than money*

[SWIFTBEATS]

i don't think she reads the paper :272:

[wum]

Originally Posted by cubed

hahahaha

you're kidding right.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Leviathan

You seriously need to get a proper education, you don't get it! THE WEED GETS SOLD IN THE US, that money is then used to buy coke from another country! The money to buy the coke comes from the WEED .I understand it is a cycle, but the BC grown weed is a big part of that cycle. I never said weed was the problem did I? I agree that it should be legalized but its not and this is the way it works. If you were really interested in human rights you would try to stop these grows ops and the exportation of the weed and concentrate on legalizing it, and only then could you consume it and not be a hypocrite. Either that or grow your own. This is what makes me think your more concerned about being able to smoke up than human rights.

On a side note, you talk about not going to the US ever, does this mean you don't use any products that are produced in the US?

Prohibition is the reason that all of this is happening.
Growers are forced to deal with criminals instead of being able to deal with legal organizations.
American dirty money is nearly impossible to clean.
Coke is inexpensive in the US and is mostly from Mexico anyways.
Weed has nothing to do with terrorism.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by SWIFTBEATS

i don't think she reads the paper :272:

I read the National Post.
It's the best local paper;P

[Grapes]

God, that's it, I'm unsubscribing from this gong show of a thread.

[gnosis]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

I read the National Post.
It's the best local paper;P

I'm beside myself w/ laughter!!!

Girl, you just keep going, don't you?

Only because you seem to have an American-sit-com-style mentality, I'll point this one out to you:

The National Post is a "national" paper.
That means, it's distributed all over our Nation, Canada.

This is NOT a "local paper".

Frosty
(Go! GO!!!!)

[sungoo]

[quote=gnosis]Girl, you just keep going, don't you?[quote]
yeah, I gave up arguing with her. It's like attacking a punching bag, after a while it gets boring. No matter how hard you hit them, they'll never concede defeat, but that's what you get for picking on a vessel full of sand.
I figure it's still funny to read though.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by gnosis

I'm beside myself w/ laughter!!!

Girl, you just keep going, don't you?

Only because you seem to have an American-sit-com-style mentality, I'll point this one out to you:

The National Post is a "national" paper.
That means, it's distributed all over our Nation, Canada.

This is NOT a "local paper".

Frosty
(Go! GO!!!!)

Sorry...I just smoked a big hugemongous nine pound duby;P
And it felt great;P

A law is a law. Sucks that she got nailed but if you're gonna smuggle drugs, expect to pay the consequences.

I don't agree with all the laws in this country, but ya know what? tough luck!

[Vitamin-X]

Okay, I'm going to wade into this one.

As I understand it she was charged over 9 Pounds of Pot.
The sentence for this crime is Death.(hers was commuted to 20years)
You tell me what first world white person is going to risk death for 9p of pot.
Just doesn't seem worth the risk and thus doesn't add up.
More than likely organized crime has a smuggling ring going on; using unknowing tourists as mules.

Here' s some math:
Bombing a nightclub leading to the deaths of 88 Aussies =3years
Smuggling 9 pounds of pot and getting caught=Death :reduced to 20years.

So the Authorites there feel that nine pounds of pot if worth 17 years more jail time than the murder of over 200 people.

[Leviathan]

All I want is for her to admit, that all she really cares about is the legalization of weed, she most certaintly doesn't care about basic human rights.

News flash: the ability to smoke up in public is not a basic human right.

The right to own land and the right to be able to eat and survive are basic human rights and those are the ones that you should be concerned about if any.

[Vitamin-X]

and ps:

The Australian Government had better buck up and do something soon;
or they're going to look like pussies.
And there's no room for pussies in the commonwealth :391:


And just for the record I totally think that U.S drug laws are as
insane and out to lunch as half the Islamic world.

[automatic]

Originally Posted by Vitamin-X

Here' s some math:
Bombing a nightclub leading to the deaths of 88 Aussies =3years
Smuggling 9 pounds of pot and getting caught=Death :reduced to 20years.

for fuck's sake can't anyone read?

the guy didn't bomb a nightclub. there's no evidence that he was ever in physical contact with the bombing. there's no evidence he built the bomb, planted the bomb, financed the bomb or planned the bombing. he wasn't convicted of being directly involved in the bomb plot. he WAS convicted of making inflammatory statements that most likely led his religious followers to commit the act, but they couldn't prove any direct link. for that he got three years.

HE WAS NOT THE BOMBER.

get it?

[automatic]

Originally Posted by Vitamin-X

Okay, I'm going to wade into this one.

As I understand it she was charged over 9 Pounds of Pot.
The sentence for this crime is Death.(hers was commuted to 20years)
You tell me what first world white person is going to risk death for 9p of pot.
Just doesn't seem worth the risk and thus doesn't add up.
More than likely organized crime has a smuggling ring going on; using unknowing tourists as mules.

It's possible, but it's not like they've never caught an aussie trying to smuggle drugs before...

beside's what are you going to do, sentence all the poor brown smugglers to death, but let the rich white ones go because "there's no way you meant to do it". yeah, that's a REALLY fair to go about it, huh?

[wum]

Originally Posted by automatic

for fuck's sake can't anyone read?

the guy didn't bomb a nightclub. there's no evidence that he was ever in physical contact with the bombing. there's no evidence he built the bomb, planted the bomb, financed the bomb or planned the bombing. he wasn't convicted of being directly involved in the bomb plot. he WAS convicted of making inflammatory statements that most likely led his religious followers to commit the act, but they couldn't prove any direct link. for that he got three years.

HE WAS NOT THE BOMBER.

get it?

I think it was a bit more than that...

An Indonesian court convicts Muslim cleric Abu Bakar Bashir of conspiracy in connection with the 2002 attack on two nightclubs in Bali that killed more than 200 people. Judges sentenced the man to 2 1/2 years in prison -- far less than the maximum sentence possible but far more than his supporters wanted.

Conspiracy implies planning. Other sources say he was part of an "evil conspiracy".

I haven't seen one news source where it's said, he was simply convicted of "hate speech" or some bullshit like that.

In other news, Indonesia the world's largest Islamic country! :):)

Here's a really good article I found about the whole thing

http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/474