Do you _Ever_ Plan on going back to school?

[galaxie]

^ If you want to make good money, yes.
If you want to make HUGE money, no.
IMO to make HUGE money you need a combination of education, business savvy, and interpersonal savvy, as well as a really great business plan.

[rawb]

i have a hs diploma, i may go back if i decide i don't want to run the internet for the rest of my life.

[Joanne]

Originally Posted by Tea

do you think its possible for any one to not go to school but still "make money"?

of course it's possible.

but I think some of the arguments made in this post are rather pointless, because whether or not you need to go to school to make 'good' money, it all comes down to is personal preference over what YOU want to do in life!

some people's dreams and aspirations don't require 4 years of schooling, and some people prefer to get several graduate degrees. I don't think it's very fair to base someone's success simply on money.

and second off, a lot of money to one person, maybe considered chump change to another. AGAIN, it's all about personal preference.

and for fuck's sakes, whatever happened to the idea of someone going to school because they actually like to LEARN?

geez.

--Joanne :P

[veN]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

I already finished a certificate/diploma program and I love my career so far, but it wont do if I ever have to raise kids on my own or want to buy a porche.
Therefore I plan on going back to school soon again and upgrading to a degree, probly in teaching. Im giving myself about 10 years to complete it as im also going back just for the sake that I believe I can get my degree in uni. Besides taht ppl go back to school at any given age... one teacher I know when back at the age of 50 to get her masters, because you can never stop learning :)

I feel you on this one Rhia. Our job is amazing, but not enough to be the only income to support a family on. I'm taking my time (no pressure!) to decide if and when I wanna go back to school. I may go back and become a teacher, or I may switch gears all together and get into a newer interest of mine, interior design and decorating. For the time being, I wouldn't mind advancing my sign language or continuing with psychology... Both are invaluable assets in our line of work. But right now, I'm taking a break from school. I'm burnt.

[islandgirl]

I thought before that i was fine with my diploma, however, recently i have been having the itch to go back and get my degree in Criminology. With a degree it can open up so many more career options for me, and more money to be made. There are many jobs that I can get with the Crim Diploma but, Every job that i have been interested in pursuing requires the degree in Crim. So it looks like i am off to school again.

[Felix]

I think it all depeands on what you want to do, obviously if you want to do the lawyer/doctor/csi stuff then you will need a diploma to even get the possition in the first place. But in business it's quite different and most the time personality and business savvy will beat out the peice of paper anytime.

Personally I don't really see the point right now. I can't afford to spend that kinda cash on "general studies". Plus everyone I know that went to college/university are working the same kind of jobs that I can get since I got the experience. But if I ever figure out what the hell it is I wanna do with my life and it involves schooling then sure, I'll put some time and money into it

One idea that I been giving alot more thought lately is taking a course to learn how to teach english and also learn some portuguese so that I can move to Brazil and teach english down there, THAT would be worth the price and time of school for sure.

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Nev

I feel you on this one Rhia. Our job is amazing, but not enough to be the only income to support a family on. I'm taking my time (no pressure!) to decide if and when I wanna go back to school. I may go back and become a teacher, or I may switch gears all together and get into a newer interest of mine, interior design and decorating. For the time being, I wouldn't mind advancing my sign language or continuing with psychology... Both are invaluable assets in our line of work. But right now, I'm taking a break from school. I'm burnt.

One thing I love about our job is how you can easly branch off or have time to take up another job/intrest like tutering, home buisness, school, or more time to focus on a particular hobbie. Otherwise its so nice because now working in the school I can totaly feel and see what its like to have a position like a taecher, OT, PT, SLT etc... Also I always like asking what other SEA's/part time teachers what there doing to fill up that extra 10-15 hours a week.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

One thing I love about our job is how you can easly branch off or have time to take up another job/intrest like tutering, home buisness, school, or more time to focus on a particular hobbie. Otherwise its so nice because now working in the school I can totaly feel and see what its like to have a position like a taecher, OT, PT, SLT etc... Also I always like asking what other SEA's/part time teachers what there doing to fill up that extra 10-15 hours a week.

what exactly do you guys do? work with students with disabilities... or what?

just curious, I worked as a CRW for a couple years over in alberta for a private company...

[~god~]

Originally Posted by Alex

I'd SOUND more intelligent? Spending thousands of dollars to get a piece of paper? When I make 1-2000 a week running my own bussiness at the age of 20?

Now you sound like the idiot.

?
are you bragging about 4000/month?
I pay more than that for rent!


ps. I'm 19, AND i'm a student.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by ~god~

?
are you bragging about 4000/month?
I pay more than that for rent!


ps. I'm 19, AND i'm a student.

where did I say 4000/mth? usually it's around 7, but regardless, I'm in my first year of running my bussiness. If you pay more than 4000 a month in rent... and you're a student.. correct me if I'm wrong... you must be getting alot of money from the parents.


also, if you pay more than 4000 a month in rent, you ARE an idiot, because why are you paying rent? If you have that money, why not buy a house?

[~god~]

I'm moving in my house with my friend in 3 months. I'm glad that you're concerned though. And no, I have been living independently since i was 17.

Anyways, this thread was not about showing off your bling.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by ~god~

I'm moving in my house with my friend in 3 months. I'm glad that you're concerned though. And no, I have been living independently since i was 17.

Anyways, this thread was not about showing off your bling.

I don't have 'bling'. The only thing I've ever owned you could consider bling was my corvette and I sold that.

I was stating you can make good money without a university education, which was one of the original questions in the thread. YOU are the one 'showing off your bling' with your outrageous claim of paying more than 4000/mth in rent. Which, if true, is utterly rediculous, seeing as you can mortgage a house for cheaper than that... and if you're a 19 yr old student, why do you need a 4000/mth place?

[~god~]

dude, I'm not even going to argue with you anymore. You're harsh looping back at page one.
please see thread (and I mean read it. If you can, that is!)



someone else argue with this fool.

[baby-phat]

pfft.. let's stop this damn senseless argueing. ok, thanx. :)
I was actually intrigued by what people were daying.

[Two_Six]

Having your own business is defenitly where the money's at. Education can only get you so far. Most millionaires are businessmen not lawyers or doctors with degrees.

I make more money right now, even if I went to university for my BA in whatever and I can bet I wouldn't be making the money that I'm making now. But then again I wanna retire before 35 not 65. So I have a totally different look at life and success. Trust me you don't need education to be rich and successful, just look at Richard Branson the self made billionaire. Shoot for $1, 000, 000+ a year not $100, 000- a year.

[FlorpIncarnate]

Interesting discussion.

I'm getting a BSc in computing science after this year, mainly because most white collar tech sector jobs say right on the job posting "must have a degree in computing science or equivalent to apply". Unfortunately my degree has taught me almost nothing except a lot of math that I don't know how to use. So I guess it's a double edge sword... it can help you get in the door with big companies, but often times it isn't actually any practical use. I suspect that I'll be going back to school after my degree for some more concrete training.

It's true though, bachelors degrees (especially art/fine art degrees) are becoming a dime a dozen these days.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by ~god~

dude, I'm not even going to argue with you anymore. You're harsh looping back at page one.
please see thread (and I mean read it. If you can, that is!)



someone else argue with this fool.

dude, I was never stating bling. the original question in the thread was do you NEED education to make money. I was offering OPINIONS on the matter, with PERSONAL experiences on the subject at hand and you turned to insults.

I wrote out a multi quote long as reply... and when I hit 'submit reply' my i.e froze, so I'm not doing that again.

Let's get back on topic, k thx

[liquidblue]

School is definatly over-rated these days. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that large companies want you to have a stupid piece of paper sayign that you have put in your time learning a bunch of theory that will hopefully aid you in some way at your job. Most peoepl that I have talked to with degrees say that what they learned in university didnt playa significant role with their current job.

Now when you are doing entrepeneurship a degree isnt really going to make much diffenece. You either have the right personality and drive to suceed or you dont. A lil piece of paper isnt going to change you personality.

Now Id love to do entrepeneurship, and thats my ultimate goal, but im still going to school as a "backup plan" like Alex mentioned earlier. Just in case ya know, and besides i always wanted to go to university. In another 2 years ill have my BBA, and then imma try to open up my business. If all goes sour ill just get a job for one of those multi-million dollar companies and become manager # 63884

[veN]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

One thing I love about our job is how you can easly branch off or have time to take up another job/intrest like tutering, home buisness, school, or more time to focus on a particular hobbie. Otherwise its so nice because now working in the school I can totaly feel and see what its like to have a position like a taecher, OT, PT, SLT etc... Also I always like asking what other SEA's/part time teachers what there doing to fill up that extra 10-15 hours a week.

Agreed! We make good enough money and have steady hours that allow for planning extra schooling, hobbies, etc in and around that. I also like that my hours will allow me to work and still spend lots of time with my kids. I want to be a soccer mum milf!

Originally Posted by Alex

what exactly do you guys do? work with students with disabilities... or what?

just curious, I worked as a CRW for a couple years over in alberta for a private company...

Ya, we both work in schools with students with special needs. Depending on the discrict we are called EAs/SEAs/TAs/CAs, etc. I also used to work in a group home as a CRW, and Rhia and I both have done/do one-to-one support/intervention work

[mapleleaf4ever]

When I'm making $170,000 a year Flying I'll go back and pay for my Degree with no worries about debt. Besides, what's better than taking a Porsche GT3 to School? FUCK THE BUS SYSTEM!

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by galaxie

^ If you want to make good money, yes.
If you want to make HUGE money, no.
IMO to make HUGE money you need a combination of education, business savvy, and interpersonal savvy, as well as a really great business plan.

Totally agree. I know someone who runs his own business and makes a SHITLOAD of money. He's always had the business skills (he's run successful businesses when has still in high school), but he also has the education/credentials to back it up.

He went to U of C and got two degrees, worked his ass off (partied his ass off to balance it off), and now he works from home, and sits in front of his computer in his boxers and has money coming in like crazy.

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by liquidblue

School is definatly over-rated these days. The unfortunate fact of the matter is that large companies want you to have a stupid piece of paper sayign that you have put in your time learning a bunch of theory that will hopefully aid you in some way at your job. Most peoepl that I have talked to with degrees say that what they learned in university didnt playa significant role with their current job.

Now when you are doing entrepeneurship a degree isnt really going to make much diffenece. You either have the right personality and drive to suceed or you dont. A lil piece of paper isnt going to change you personality.

Now Id love to do entrepeneurship, and thats my ultimate goal, but im still going to school as a "backup plan" like Alex mentioned earlier. Just in case ya know, and besides i always wanted to go to university. In another 2 years ill have my BBA, and then imma try to open up my business. If all goes sour ill just get a job for one of those multi-million dollar companies and become manager # 63884

In some ways I agree with you... However getting a degree ALSO SAYS;
im commited (4 years), hard working, have study skills (resurch skills), a sence of direction, a plan/goal/drive in my life, organisation skills, reading writing skills to work with other highly educated ppl etc.

There are reasons why teachers will make you do thigns like a group project, give an oral report infornt of an audiance, give you a short periode of time to finish a report. Constantly practicing these work habbits will only help you get better and better wich will help you perform much better in yoru future job.

When I took my special education course I already had a load of experince working with kids who have a variety of special needs. We had hardly any hands on experince while takign the program. I think what I gaind most while take the pogram was proffessionalism, highly improved my work ethnic skills, reading and writing skills, study and resurch skills. ie. alot of the projecst we did were based on finding rescorses/looking for information... because constinly in my job I am looking for new stratagies and the most current of resurch info to help me do my job better and better.

[veN]

^ Ture story!

[Alex]

Originally Posted by Nev

Agreed! We make good enough money and have steady hours that allow for planning extra schooling, hobbies, etc in and around that. I also like that my hours will allow me to work and still spend lots of time with my kids. I want to be a soccer mum milf!


Ya, we both work in schools with students with special needs. Depending on the discrict we are called EAs/SEAs/TAs/CAs, etc. I also used to work in a group home as a CRW, and Rhia and I both have done/do one-to-one support/intervention work

good shit. You enjoy it then? I worked in the vocational setting, training slightly more capable 'clients' into being able to keep a steady, bottom level job(with constant support of course). Took them out to work, usually cutting lawns/weed wacking etc.

I loved and hated it. Sometimes I felt soooo good working with all the clients, felt like I was really helping.... but then some days I just hated it, thought I was getting no where, doing everything for naught...

[veN]

Originally Posted by Alex

good shit. You enjoy it then? I worked in the vocational setting, training slightly more capable 'clients' into being able to keep a steady, bottom level job(with constant support of course). Took them out to work, usually cutting lawns/weed wacking etc.

I loved and hated it. Sometimes I felt soooo good working with all the clients, felt like I was really helping.... but then some days I just hated it, thought I was getting no where, doing everything for naught...

I worked in a really cool group home, with 4 individuals aged 50-74. The woman of the group was like my adopted grandma - she was a blast! I used to take the guys out bowling, to the pub for beers, to movies, you name it. It was a really neat place to work... Def stood out from a lot of other houses in our oranization and other orgs. I really enjoyed my time with them... but I do prefer working with children.