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View Poll Results: Should Skytrain Police be armed?
Yes, it is absolutely neccessary! 23 51.11%
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  #101 (permalink)  
Old Dec 07, 05
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Not to pick sides here, but Fable I don't see race playing a factor in who they Transit Police would hassle. Maybe in the US would that happen, but even then, that is a gross generalization.

I would say it is more likely that a group of teenagers that ride together on the train would get hassled.

Canada is dubbed as a multi-cultural country. And the amount of Racism that goes on here compared to the US is minimal.

Also, in agreeance with Shawn. I have seen many Skytrain Special Constables that are Inidian (Eastern). Skytrain like any other employer in the province are an equal opportunity employer. They would be more likely to hire a minority.
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Not to pick sides here, but Fable I don't see race playing a factor in who they Transit Police would hassle. Maybe in the US would that happen, but even then, that is a gross generalization.
Yeah, sorry to say it, but its easy for white ppl to say that.

Talking to a few guys at work and we all agreed that watch the first shooting inccident/accident on OUR transit system will involve a black dude or a misunderstood brown dude. Mind you this was a conversation where everyone was NOT white and all took transit to work.

For example, the brown guy from Austrailia who was killed on the UK transit system 'cause he looked like a "terrorist", was moving franticly thru the system and posibly was wearing a bomb. I'm sure you all heard about that.
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Yeah, sorry to say it, but its easy for white ppl to say that.

Talking to a few guys at work and we all agreed that watch the first shooting inccident/accident on OUR transit system will involve a black dude or a misunderstood brown dude. Mind you this was a conversation where everyone was NOT white and all took transit to work.

For example, the brown guy from Austrailia who was killed on the UK transit system 'cause he looked like a "terrorist", was moving franticly thru the system and posibly was wearing a bomb. I'm sure you all heard about that.
it's easy for you just to say that too. just because you and a few guys at work speculate that a minority will be shot first doesn't make it true. you really have no idea.
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it's easy for you just to say that too. just because you and a few guys at work speculate that a minority will be shot first doesn't make it true. you really have no idea.
I'm not saying that it will happen, but from seeing skytrain pigs be discriminatory to certain minority groups makes ppl in these groups doubt the ones who are in authority on the system. go whitey!
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yeah, that's true. but i don't think that makes them more likely to shoot a minority, though. but then what do i know anyway.
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I really don't see them shootin anyone.

No matter what race.

It's more for show.
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Not to pick sides here, but Fable I don't see race playing a factor in who they Transit Police would hassle. Maybe in the US would that happen, but even then, that is a gross generalization.

I would say it is more likely that a group of teenagers that ride together on the train would get hassled.

Canada is dubbed as a multi-cultural country. And the amount of Racism that goes on here compared to the US is minimal.

Also, in agreeance with Shawn. I have seen many Skytrain Special Constables that are Inidian (Eastern). Skytrain like any other employer in the province are an equal opportunity employer. They would be more likely to hire a minority.
1) I never stated that i knew the numbers either
2) even so, 1-5 visible minorities out of a force of 70 is NOT equal opportunity even at the surface level
3) racism here - compared to that of the US makes it minimal? What the fuck does mean? Statistics look smaller on paper, but in real life does that happen? Do people just vanish in thin fucking air, because in the US "racism is worse?"

dont make statements like"Canada is dubbed as a multi-cultural country. And the amount of Racism that goes on here compared to the US is minimal. unless your either ready to back it up or add "my belief is" because if your speaking on some "known fact" angle, your dangerously fucking wrong.
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it's easy for you just to say that too. just because you and a few guys at work speculate that a minority will be shot first doesn't make it true. you really have no idea.
history
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these are just a few resources that tell me, and others that WE REALLY DO HAVE A FUCKING IDEA
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history
precedent
past violence
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grave stones
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first hand accounts
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obituaries
personal experiences
other peoples personal experiences
the news
broken windows
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mundhir
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these are just a few resources that tell me, and others that WE REALLY DO HAVE A FUCKING IDEA
oh shut up. the issue here is that skytrain cops will have guns. period. not that they'll use them unjustly on minorities. not everything is race related, and everyone has the same right to be bothered by this equally without you twisting things because you happen to not be white.
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"Canada is dubbed as a multi-cultural country. And the amount of Racism that goes on here compared to the US is minimal. .
um, racisim in the us is unbelievable compaired to here...ever been too kansas..or montana..or any of thoes hick states?..which make up about a good 45-50% of the us??..no i dont think you have...or heres something funny, georgia..the "drity south"...where the fuck do you think racisim started??...plantations..slaves...shit like that..people from the states have more racial problems then newhere else on the fuckin planet fable u dumbass


edit:..and dont picl apart what i said..im was mad while writing it..just at ignorance..i knowit dosent relay the right kinda thing i was goin for but most can get the just of it

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where the fuck do you think racisim started??
well it definately wasn't in the US.
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Old Dec 11, 05
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well it definately wasn't in the US.
k i know that it didnt start there...but like..its way more prominent there for sure
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k i know that it didnt start there...but like..its way more prominent there for sure
Ever been to Alberta ?

They're racist as fuck out there.

My black friend Mun was out there wearin' a cowboy hat n shit.

They left a note on his van tellin him he better leave town or else.

Black dude in a fuckin' cowboy hat in Alb ! LMFAO !

Ahem..now for my point....Racism is fucking everywhere in many forms.

Some are obvious, some aren't.

It's like Chapelle said how he hates NY racists because they hide it.

But he likes the fact racism is in the open down south, no one hides it.

"Mornin' ****** !", "Mornin Sir !".....oh man that shows fuckin funny !

So yeah Racism is human nature, everyone's different with funny shit about them and their cultures, trying to hide it makes it worse.

Ignorance and fear in my opinion aren't racism.

Racism is actually funny shit to be laughed at.

If someone from a different race called me a cracker I'd laugh.

It's not something to get all pissed off about, unless the person sayin' it is tryin' to be an ignorant dick, that's when it's no longer funny and it becomes ignorant.

Ignorance is not funny.
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oh shut up. the issue here is that skytrain cops will have guns. period. not that they'll use them unjustly on minorities. not everything is race related, and everyone has the same right to be bothered by this equally without you twisting things because you happen to not be white.

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it's easy for you just to say that too. just because you and a few guys at work speculate that a minority will be shot first doesn't make it true. you really have no idea.
I respect your right to an opinion and no, it isnt always a race issue, BUT the fact that there STILL ARE race issues, means that ideas such as "racial represenation" at law enforcement levels is a ligitimate concern for many people. It might just so happen that many of the concerned people are not white. And many of these people also dont have a real voice. And many of these people just dont have a choice. Perhaps this may sound ludicrous to someone such as yourself, but who the fuck are you, to think that your own personal lack of experience with either corruption or prejudice dictates what the reality is? And just because a unit or enforcement agency has equal opportunity situations, can you tell me that there are a majority of white police officers simply because of the fact that they are better? That white(irish/italian/french) police officers in a landscape such as ours in canada with the visible ethnic communities we have here, just happen to be better for the job?

I think you have to stop foccusing on an idea that im someone who wants to point the finger, because all ive pointed out was current and historical fact, i think the thing you need to focus on , is

Why you feel like you need to defend against anything im saying as if im coming after you personally?

How does me talking about racial issues, disolve the importance of someone elses fears and concerns regardless of there colour?

If one person is afraid of corruption or violence, couldnt that fear still be held by someone else?

Does the fact that history and statistics say that im more likely to be shot then you are, make your concern any less? Why? Why are you dismissing my comments that have relevent basis?

i think if you are white, the chances that you have some prejudicial leanings are as equal to the idea that i would have prejudicial leanings. But if you believe that i dont have a reason to think that there is rampant racism in Canada, buried a lot deeper than it used to be, COMBINED with a greater threat of violence that could be enacted on ANY race, then your either naive, or trying to subdue what i want to share.

Which one is it?
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um, racisim in the us is unbelievable compaired to here...ever been too kansas..or montana..or any of thoes hick states?..which make up about a good 45-50% of the us??..no i dont think you have...or heres something funny, georgia..the "drity south"...where the fuck do you think racisim started??...plantations..slaves...shit like that..people from the states have more racial problems then newhere else on the fuckin planet fable u dumbass


edit:..and dont picl apart what i said..im was mad while writing it..just at ignorance..i knowit dosent relay the right kinda thing i was goin for but most can get the just of it
I know its hard for you to understand things sometime honey, but ill try to explain to you again one more time.

Regardless of how rampant, racism is in America(Im well aware of how much but thanks for the "i saaaw iit on television pa!" -explanation), RACISM IS NOT AN ACT THAT IS MINIMIZED BY THE REALITY THAT IT MAY BE MORE PREDOMINANT IN OTHER NATIONS. Perhaps as statistics, as numbers on a piece of paper, they may be minimized, but what the fuck does that mean to the actaul human being that fucking experiences it.

And although ive never been to kansas or montana, ive lived in south beach florida, sanfrancisco california, and have spent a lot of time in new york, and dulles virginia, and the racism there, was enough. But you get a gold star for the attempt at showing me up or calling me out.
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KARI CAN YOU PLEASE GET AN EDUCATION

YOUR STUPIDITY IS SCARY

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i agree with them having guns, makes the skytrain stops safer, maybe with less retarded drunk / high or fucked up people hanging out
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