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Old Oct 11, 06
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The safe choice or the right choice?

I am not much of a heart-2-hearter so here goes. I gots headhunted by another company and am trying to make a decision.

THE SAFE CHOICE PROS

flex days
full medical and dental
guaranteed raises every year but to the tune of $800
can call my boss a cocksucker to his face and not get fired
paid sick days
leave of absense w/out pay but position stays forever
slack ass job, no performance reviews
pays for education, based on passing.
gives paid time off for school

THE SAFE CHOICE CONS

have to cross cambie(rav line is a bitch)
pay for parking
higher deductions from pay
no raises based on performance
max out after three years in pay grade still making less than starting wage at juice place
mega bitch that goes on leave all the time
boring, no performance reviews
dealing with the public
2 weeks pd vacation, 1 week unpd

THE RIGHT CHOICE PROS

start at more than can ever make at safe choice
performance review after a year with a guaranteed raise
3 weeks paid vacation to start
Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee organic Juiccccccccccceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
lots of free swag
a career as opposed to the job(career I am in school for)
will pay for education up front(not based on passing)


THE RIGHT CHOICE CONS

can't call my boss a cocksucker to his face
100% medical 80% dental (100% across board at safe choice)
lack of stability
performance reviews
no flex days

I am so torn......:(
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Old Oct 11, 06
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Well nobody can really tally the pro's and con's and make a better choice than you. After all you know your situation best.

Yet It seems that you wouldn't really make this thread unless you were, at least on some level, itching to move on to something new; or maybe something more challenging.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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flip a coin.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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flip a coin.
this is more of an electronic coin flip.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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You'll never get everything you want in life if you're always making safe choices, change is only scary until it happens.

and i love juice!
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Old Oct 11, 06
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I'm with myra on this one....

GO FOR THE JUICE.

edit: wrong account. it's me.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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the list of cons for the right choice seems smaller then the safe choice..and you'd be making more money! ...and wont have to deal with the commute and parking! it seems you already know what the better choice is. =)
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Old Oct 11, 06
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I don't want to make this decision myself....i want to tell one of the places that the internet made the choice for meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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Old Oct 11, 06
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Hmm... I'd say go with the 'right choice' cuz if you don't, you might be sitting there a few months down the road wishing that you did. :)
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yea, flip a coin
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avana....there is a reason you called the 'right choice' the right choice. subconciously you know its the right choice to make.

make the right choice.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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the fact that you titled one of them the 'right' choice should tell you something.

edit: haha outposted by a second! but seriously, we're right avana.
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the fact that you titled one of them the 'right' choice should tell you something.

edit: haha outposted by a second! but seriously, we're right avana.
great minds often think alike.....
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the fact that you titled one of them the 'right' choice should tell you something.

edit: haha outposted by a second! but seriously, we're right avana.
That's about exactly what I was going to say.
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Old Oct 11, 06
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money money money money mooooooooney
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Old Oct 11, 06
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follow the $$$
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Old Oct 11, 06
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It's not always about the money.
I left my safe job at AE for Guess. Hated it after two days and lucky for me AE took me back, gave me a big raise, and a big promotion.

I'd say, go with your heart. I know it sounds stupid, but do the job you will LOVE. Don't leave for the money, don't leave for the people, leave if it's what you WANT and you know you will enjoy your new position more than your current one!
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Old Oct 11, 06
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Ch-ching and fruit juice.

Change is scary but often it is our own heads, which prevent us from experiencing the uncertain. Often, when i'm afraid to face a change, it almost always works out better than imagined. I know you really enjoy calling your boss a cocksucker, and he'll probably miss it like crazy, but these people see you as an asset to their company. They recruited you to their team, and it seems like if you perform as they expect you will reap the benefits. You suit the profile to move up in the company, and do good things, in a field that interests you, and i think that is a huge compliment that you should accept.

PS - Is there any chance that if you leave the safe position and end up hating the right choice that you could go back to the safe one?

ppss: CONGRADULATIONS. You should be proud, career +cooking = catch of all time cred.
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money money money money mooooooooney
sean! ?
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Old Oct 12, 06
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fable, stop deleting posts you dork.
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Old Oct 12, 06
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k - so many have said to me, what is worth more.

Stability / Money.

The safe place is a Union environment. Which is where the stability comes in. I have the chance to fuck up royally, and not get fired.

The other place, is not union. So the only person I have to hide behind, is myself, rather than the union.

I don't yet own a home, and I have no kids, nor a husband. Any choice I make is for me and me only. So on that side, if after 3 months, it isn't for me, I can leave, or they ask me too, and I am the one that pays the piper so to speak.

The union would allow me back but probably not the same position, and the benefits change from department to department.
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Old Oct 12, 06
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fable, stop deleting posts you dork.
Your other post pissed me off so I deleted this one, I didn’t feel right sharing my perspective with teachers (so I thought) that would act in such a fucked up manner - I thought you were a teacher, not an exam monitor. Of which case I actually kind of feel sorry for you now. My apologies.

Hopefully you caught the theme of the post nonetheless. The way I look at it, if its excitement, challenge, healthy stress, deadlines, competition, sexual tension and anything else remotely fun about work you are looking for, you can just as easily find it in environments where you are not judged simply on the amount of money you bring in, rather as a human being. Whether it’s intimate relations, sports, arts, intellectual pursuits, or political organizing (one again I figured Id throw that last one in there), the above mentioned can be present, and ultimately in environments that actually mean something.

Finding satisfaction in a job well done has nothing to do with careerism.

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I intially thought you were being sarcastic in your dilemma.. cause to me, the RIGHT choice sounds like the better deal without QUESTION...

But now that this thread is going on a few posts I see this was actually a dilemma for you... so from an objective standpoint.. and for me personally, I'd go for the RIGHT choice. The pros of the right choice seem to far outweight that of your current job. And personally, I wouldn't want a relationship with my boss where I could call him a cocksucker. I'm sure in your mind/heart you are already leaning towards that choice considering the way that you've labelled each choice. (Right versus Safe).

Your new job probably just doesn' feel "safe" yet because you haven't yet established the same level of comfort with this job as you have had the time to with your current job. After you've been somewhere long enough it becomes harder and harder to leave because you become so nested in this routine and enough time has passed for you to let it fit snuggly into your daily life.

But who ever said that comfortable relationships were the best ones? In fact, in hindsight, my most comfortable relationship was the shittiest. You don't get satisfaction in life from simply being "comfortable". To me accepting comfort is like accepting mundanity for the rest of your life.

More money and a career opportunity? I would never let that chance go...

I wish you luck in your choice..:)

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Old Oct 12, 06
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I HAVE JUST BEEN OFFERED THE JOB! MOTHER FUCKER!
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Old Oct 12, 06
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Finding satisfaction in a job well done has nothing to do with careerism.
I agree with the idea, but realistically, so much of the time in many of our lives are invested in our jobs/careers, and many career/job chocies are of such nature that you aren't left with much time to commit to anything else. Unfortunately, sometimes it is the case that you have to make the right career/job choice or maximize your current job opportunity so that you do get job satisfaction... or satisfaction from a job well done at work.

So I personally wouldn't say that a job well done has NOTHING to do with careerism, because for many of us, a job well done relates mostly to paid work.
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