standing back and studying everything-

[glorywithheld*]

thanks :202:

I was using the 'created' different, I was referring to ideas themselves, like: can I come up with an idea which has never before been thought by anyone before? That may seem obvious, but I believe, to an extent at least, in collective consciousness, and that ideas sort of exist on their own, and we almost discover them. lol I think I need to re-watch Waking Life to put this more eloquently.

Originally Posted by tiedye

I personally doubt that intelligence can be created. The whole "Artifical Intelligence" bit is a little shakey, since the program only runs on the parameters in which it was programmed. A computer's ability to analyze and act upon variables does not make it intelligent; it simply makes it intricate.

That's a great 8th post, by the way.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by glorywithheld*

thanks :202:

I was using the 'created' different, I was referring to ideas themselves, like: can I come up with an idea which has never before been thought by anyone before? That may seem obvious, but I believe, to an extent at least, in collective consciousness, and that ideas sort of exist on their own, and we almost discover them. lol I think I need to re-watch Waking Life to put this more eloquently.

Yeh those collective (un)conscious theories are similiar insofar as they have social forces that apply to humans. Ideas that are born of convention or that are archetypal; existing in the metaphysical.

[t-skywalker]

i think the human mind is amazing, and action to reaction i find intreguing(sorry cant spell). i like to stand back and watch ppl interact. ppl think im just being an antisocial bitch, but really im studying;)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by FireWire

I think that's called hypersensitive self-consciousness

That's way too many syllables to say "paranoia"

[decypher]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

That's way too many syllables to say "paranoia"

"As I have tried to show, modern writing at its worst does not consist in picking out words for the sake of their meaning and inventing images in order to make the meaning clearer. It consists in gumming together long strips of words which have already been set in order by someone else, and making the results presentable by sheer humbug." - George Orwell on "Politics and the English Language."

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by decypher

"As I have tried to show, modern writing at its worst does not consist in picking out words for the sake of their meaning and inventing images in order to make the meaning clearer. It consists in gumming together long strips of words which have already been set in order by someone else, and making the results presentable by sheer humbug." - George Orwell on "Politics and the English Language."

The pendulum swings both ways. Overcomplication of language can be just as damaging as oversimplification. They can both be doubleplusungood.

[decypher]

Yeh i was just expanding on what you said. Basically the whole thing is Orwell talking about how the English language was being destroyed by strings of words predisposed by others. Sort of how people use the same metaphors that have been around forever and instead of using language to clarify and to create understanding they unnecessarily complicate it and use common phrases. This makes language robotic and crippled with adjectives as he says. Language becomes something that you acquired from others instead of forming the ideas individually. Your comment on how you could have just said paranoia instead of "hypersensitive self-consciousness" is a perfect example of that.

on the other side though it is hard to keep language uncomplicated in todays world of specialized skills, everything is so pluralistic these days.

[cinist]

ya lifes a bitch buddy do some drugs