standing back and studying everything-

[scue]

It really gets depressing. Examining what triggers other emotions/actions. Looking at situations in the long run. Evaluating what has come to be the current situation.

I have a bad habit of standing back and doing this. I guess the only way to really fix it is to stop standing back.

[/diary entry]

[-evil-duerr-]

ive always been like this.

its tough some times. but it's a great quality in the long run.
only very few people have it.

Some people can walk around their whole lives and not give a damn about the people around them. That to me is even more troubling than having empathy for your fellow man.

[Apple Jaxx]

It is very depressing doing this. Ive done this all my life and wile you get great wisdom from it, you all so miss out on quite a lot. Analyzing others tends to reinforce the fact that life's tough, and unfortionatly, it can cause you to be overly cautious.

[mojo]

emotional intelligence. it is a gift and a curse my man.

[.muffy.]

I tend to do this alot...I over analyze everything...
I've been getting back into yoga again to help me relax my mind.
sit back, take a couple deep breathes and just roll with the punches

[ebbomega]

Funny, overanalysis usually actually gets me jazzed on life.

But maybe that's because I start from the general assumption that people are fucked up and we're gonna destroy the planet anyways.... there's nowhere really to go but up from there, y'know?

[thechix0r]

Pondernig life, spent lots of time doing that, thinking about people around me and why they are the way they are and such...

It's a good thing and a terrible thing all wrapped in one

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Funny, overanalysis usually actually gets me jazzed on life.

But maybe that's because I start from the general assumption that people are fucked up and we're gonna destroy the planet anyways.... there's nowhere really to go but up from there, y'know?

haha, same here

[FireWire]

I think that's called hypersensitive self-consciousness - and each person possess that trait to a varying level of sensitivity and calibration to the world around them.

Personally, if I were to rate my level of 'analyzation' that I tend to do about others and about this world, then from a scale of 1 to 10 (1 being the least sensitive and just not giving a damn and 10 being extremely hypersensitive and totally pondering what this world is about), then I would be an 8. Yes - it is sometimes unproductive and I find myself missing out on a lot of things. But I know way too much about people and the world that I also have an advantage over a lot of people around me...

So it all basically comes down to what mojo said: "emotional intelligence. it is a gift and a curse my man."

I love it though.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Funny, overanalysis usually actually gets me jazzed on life.

But maybe that's because I start from the general assumption that people are fucked up and we're gonna destroy the planet anyways.... there's nowhere really to go but up from there, y'know?

I totally respect that entire comment, ebbo. I find myself often just sitting back and analyzing the actions and interactions of people while I'm out partying for hours, in quite observation and contemplation. I look around, realize how far gone our society is but relish in the fact that the only thing left to do is improve.

I'm an observer, and I see nothing wrong with it. Somebody's got to pay attention for the masses that don't.

[ebbomega]

I look around, realize how far gone our society is but relish in the fact that the only thing left to do is improve.

"far gone" is a myth. As far as I'm concerned, our society is exactly where it is supposed to be. Why? Because that's where it _is_.

It doesn't get me down because I have faith. And that makes all the difference.

[tiedye]

That's an interesting way of looking at it. I have some deep pondering ahead of me now.

For the most part, I've always judged how we're doing based on how we are affecting the Earth and lately, that hasn't been all that well.

[Jingles]

Maybe watch children more =)
Yes, there is a good chance people will think you are a creep...but, when the chance arises make sure you notice the little ones
People get caught up in their own drama a lot of the time and for whatever reason that plays out in public.
The more I think, the more I realize how petty my thought can be
and so I rise above it.
And so I see hope when I look around
people struggling to maintain hope.

[Cool-Water]

some of us speak all of whats on our mind.
other's more keep their thoughts to themselves.
as long as youre not being selfish or anything, thinking about your life and things you reconize is a good way to keep steady and not all unclear and dat

[Lush]

I do this - I tend to stand back and observe my surroundings, the people around me and the way they interact and it does get depressing.
I find writing about it helps, I don't know why but somehow putting it all on paper helps me distance myself from it.

I know my tendency to overthink and overanalyze things really contributed to the insomnia I was suffering from earlier this year - it also made me develop anxiety attacks but writing makes it all more tolerable.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by scue

It really gets depressing. Examining what triggers other emotions/actions. Looking at situations in the long run. Evaluating what has come to be the current situation.

I have a bad habit of standing back and doing this. I guess the only way to really fix it is to stop standing back.

[/diary entry]

its good and bad. good, you're able to read off people in 5 minutes. Bad, you're standing back and examining.

its good to be neutral.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

"far gone" is a myth. As far as I'm concerned, our society is exactly where it is supposed to be. Why? Because that's where it _is_.

It doesn't get me down because I have faith. And that makes all the difference.

So I thought about this a lot more.. and I agree to an extent. My thought is: human nature is destructive, and that's just what we're doing. However, what makes us human is self-awareness and the ability to comprehend abstract thought. Therefore, we have the ability to preserve our home and in doing so (assumingly) preserve our stay here on Earth. Despite our destructive nature, we have the instinctual desire to survive.

So because we have that choice and the ability to follow through, we're not where we're supposed to be. We're where we have chosen to be. I think there's a big difference, personally, since our instincts tell us to survive and our choices are destroying our planet.

Hopefully that all makes sense.. I haven't written anything serious while stoned in some time.

[liquidblue]

I dont understand how a lot of people do not do this. It seems like a waste of human intelligence to just accept the current situation without questioning why, and how.

Most are happy living in the moment without questioning why things are the way they are.

In my oppinion, from a collective point of view, it is better for each person to be aware of ones surroundings and to put in a lot of thought as to how everything got the way it is. From a personal perspective I think it is often better to be ignorant and happy.

Id like to think that I am interested in the collective good of all, but I am guilty of doing things that do not bennefit others.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by tiedye

So I thought about this a lot more.. and I agree to an extent. My thought is: human nature is destructive, and that's just what we're doing. However, what makes us human is self-awareness and the ability to comprehend abstract thought. Therefore, we have the ability to preserve our home and in doing so (assumingly) preserve our stay here on Earth. Despite our destructive nature, we have the instinctual desire to survive.

So because we have that choice and the ability to follow through, we're not where we're supposed to be. We're where we have chosen to be. I think there's a big difference, personally, since our instincts tell us to survive and our choices are destroying our planet.

Hopefully that all makes sense.. I haven't written anything serious while stoned in some time.

hmm what you said about self-awareness reminds me of Rousseau's notions of inequality, self-awarenass and human nature.

He coined the term, "noble savage." Natural man was brutal and self-sufficient but "noble" because he is not constrained by society. "Man is born free but everywhere he is in chains."

As we formed larger civilizations we became "self-aware" of other people's opinions in relation to our own. Add in the division of labour and private property and you have inequality in society.

So with this ability to be self-aware and the "ability to process abstract thought" comes the oppression of society.

So maybe we are where we are supposed to be because our desire to survive has brought us here.

[tiedye]

A desire to survive is not a euphamism for "greed".

[mapleleaf4ever]

hah I've been standing back and studying/reflecting on things from 2,000 miles away. It's quite amazing how clear some things become once you remove yourself from that Environment.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by tiedye

A desire to survive is not a euphamism for "greed".

Some argue that it can be when society is brought into the equation.



ps. back onto the topic of the thread,

Alot of people think they are being objective and analytical but sometimes they end up being self-rightious and presumptuous.

Sometimes people draw conclusions about their surroundings and the people that they interact with. One second can change all that.

[tiedye]

That's a completely solid point. I don't even know if I want to debate it, let alone know if I can.

We have the choice to survive and better ourselves. Greed, lust, sloth.. all of these affect our decision and are our most prominent motivators and because of this, we are still making the choice to be where we are.

Maybe I'm too young to see that where we are is where we need to be, but if I don't cling to my beliefs now, how can I hold any credibility when I can better understand the world?

[glorywithheld*]

Originally Posted by decypher

Alot of people think they are being objective and analytical but sometimes they end up being self-rightious and presumptuous.

I wonder if it is even possible to have completly objective ideas about anything. Our perceptions are so entrenched in the ideals of society, its amazing actually, how new ideas are seemingly just come up with. I mean, think about intelligence - can it in fact be "created"? I've always wondered about this.

[tiedye]

I personally doubt that intelligence can be created. The whole "Artifical Intelligence" bit is a little shakey, since the program only runs on the parameters in which it was programmed. A computer's ability to analyze and act upon variables does not make it intelligent; it simply makes it intricate.

That's a great 8th post, by the way.