Why does Kimmie think E is not a subject for this forum?

[rawb]

HOW ABOUT THE 5 PEOPLE WHO POST ON FNK AND STILL GO TO RAVES GET THEIR OWN SECTION TO TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT E AND COKE ARE, AND THE REST OF US CAN STOP PRETENDING LIKE ITS EVEN AN ISSUE o

[Wood]

Originally Posted by kiMMie

To tell someone who wants to do drugs, to do "good stuff" is not harm reduction.

well i guess it depends on what you mean by 'good stuff'. we're all being pretty vague here.

if someone was going to pop a pill that i knew had a bunch of nasty shit in it, and i said 'here do this pill instead, i had one already and i know it's good' = HARM REDUCTION.

whereas if someone was going to pop that nasty pill and Avana came up and said 'DON'T DO DRUGS' chances are that pill would be down the hatch the moment she had her back turned. NOT HARM REDUCTION.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by kiMMie

:wacko:

Telling someone to take horse tranquilizers with e to get a better high is no way in the "spirit of harm reduction".

*sigh*

You're missing the point. completely.

The issue is censorship, not a bunch of druggie kids talking about doing drugs (because that's so uncommon here).

[fritz]

[kiMMie]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

*sigh*

You're missing the point. completely.

The issue is censorship, not a bunch of druggie kids talking about doing drugs (because that's so uncommon here).

No... I think you're missing the point there. I'm just moderating the advice of some to "get the best high" in coordination of the use of additional drugs. Also to clarify what the term "harm reduction" means.

If I wanted to censor it, I would have deleted the original thread, however, there were some good posts in there initially, however, it did turn the wrong direction in the end.

Originally Posted by Wood

whereas if someone was going to pop that nasty pill and Avana came up and said 'DON'T DO DRUGS' chances are that pill would be down the hatch the moment she had her back turned. NOT HARM REDUCTION.

wood, who are we kidding here. i would hit them with my megaphone, take the pill, then yell dont do drugs through said megaphone.

[Wood]

I'LL HARM REDUCTION A MUDHOLE IN YOUR ASS BITCH


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[hardstylin]

cokeheads>potheads

haha

[SEAN!]

Its funny that certain people have made this an issue since nearly all of us have played the im cracked out on multiple drugs at 6am on sunday morning and still going hard role.

shit, that pretty much describes the states many of the people in this thread where in when i met em.

[prozac]

Originally Posted by kiMMie

No... I think you're missing the point there. I'm just moderating the advice of some to "get the best high" in coordination of the use of additional drugs. Also to clarify what the term "harm reduction" means.

If I wanted to censor it, I would have deleted the original thread, however, there were some good posts in there initially, however, it did turn the wrong direction in the end.

What I got from his posts was that leaving the discussion open (for retard comments and helpful insights alike) was in the spirit of harm reduction.

The idiots dig their own grave around here anyways, and if it was a specific post you had a problem with, warning the user instead of locking the thread may have been more constructive.

I don't think anyone's trying to set you up for a load of personal criticism over this, its just a bit of a hot topic since most people around these parts have an opinion on such matters.

[Lush]

No you know what it's that exact mentality that strikes me as odd, people think that because there are no deaths associated with marijuana it's ok to glorify it but I think that's a load of crap.

I think people justify smoking pot because it makes them feel better about it but the reality is that it is a drug and having a section in this forum titled "the chronicle" really does nothing more than make it seem ok. And sure, we live in Vancouver and a lot of people embrace pot culture however I don't think pot makes you a better person, I don't think it makes you more intelligent and I don't think chronic use of ANY drug is ok.

Please don't give me this high and mighty crap about the people I associate with because I have many friends and regardless of who they are and how much pot they smoke I'm never going to think pot smoking is "good."

Ebbomegga my opinions regarding drugs are derived from years of substance abuse and no I don't think marijuana should be considered legally on the same level as cocaine however I do think chronic drug users of any sort are not people I frequently want to associate with.

Originally Posted by Lush

No you know what it's that exact mentality that strikes me as odd, people think that because there are no deaths associated with marijuana it's ok to glorify it but I think that's a load of crap.

when i get home, i am totally googling this.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Lush

No you know what it's that exact mentality that strikes me as odd, people think that because there are no deaths associated with marijuana it's ok to glorify it but I think that's a load of crap.

I think people justify smoking pot because it makes them feel better about it but the reality is that it is a drug and having a section in this forum titled "the chronicle" really does nothing more than make it seem ok. And sure, we live in Vancouver and a lot of people embrace pot culture however I don't think pot makes you a better person, I don't think it makes you more intelligent and I don't think chronic use of ANY drug is ok.

Please don't give me this high and mighty crap about the people I associate with because I have many friends and regardless of who they are and how much pot they smoke I'm never going to think pot smoking is "good."

Ebbomegga my opinions regarding drugs are derived from years of substance abuse and no I don't think marijuana should be considered legally on the same level as cocaine however I do think chronic drug users of any sort are not people I frequently want to associate with.

I also find it funny how people who find it socially acceptible to get stoned everyday think that its any healthier then getting drunk everyday.

[TrixX]

well i see some valid points here. but i'll take my joint over a half gram anyday!

[Wood]

^^weed has less calories dude

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by Wood

^^weed has less calories dude

until i continue trying to fill my endless hunger with boxes of cookies and bags of chips :(

[omega_image]

also does not destroy your liver............

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Lush

Ebbomegga my opinions regarding drugs are derived from years of substance abuse and no I don't think marijuana should be considered legally on the same level as cocaine however I do think chronic drug users of any sort are not people I frequently want to associate with.

What about tobacco smokers? Or people who drink every weekend? You choose not to associate with them as well? What about people on prescription medication for depression?

I'm sorry that your experience with drugs is not that great, but honestly, to assume that all drug users react the same to their drugs is just as bit closed-minded as thinking that drugs can do no ill, if you ask me.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by rawb

HOW ABOUT THE 5 PEOPLE WHO POST ON FNK AND STILL GO TO RAVES GET THEIR OWN SECTION TO TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT E AND COKE ARE, AND THE REST OF US CAN STOP PRETENDING LIKE ITS EVEN AN ISSUE o

HEY RAWB, LAST TIME I SAW YOU WAS AT A RAVE.

JOSS SAYIN'.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by omega_image

also does not destroy your liver............

liver can regenerate itself rather quickly, lungs can't.

someone who gets drunk everyday would probably be considered an alchohlic that needed treatment, you think getting stoned everyday is any different in terms of addiction/mental health?

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

liver can regenerate itself rather quickly, lungs can't.

someone who gets drunk everyday would probably be considered an alchohlic that needed treatment, you think getting stoned everyday is any different in terms of addiction/mental health?

Yeah, but there has yet to be a single case of lung cancer linked to marijuana smoke.

Liver failure due to alcoholism is pretty common though. I lost a grandfather to it.

[Lush]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

What about tobacco smokers? Or people who drink every weekend? You choose not to associate with them as well? What about people on prescription medication for depression?

I'm sorry that your experience with drugs is not that great, but honestly, to assume that all drug users react the same to their drugs is just as bit closed-minded as thinking that drugs can do no ill, if you ask me.

I'm a smoker, I know it's bad and it's not something I'm proud of but cigarettes don't make me stoned and don't make me behave any differently.
I'm not advocating smoking I think it's just as bad as smoking pot but there's something to be considered in the way each affect you - Nicotine affects a person a lot differently than THC.
I've seen prescription medication fuck some of my friends up royally and I was prescribed SSRI's earlier this year myself, I took them for two days and then threw them in the garbage.
At the end of the day I really don't think there's much good that can come out of any drug (exempt some prescription drugs).

I think moderation is key with anything, I don't think smoking pot everyday is moderation - I also don't think getting trashed every weekend is moderation.
There's a fine line but I think a lot of people are blindsighted by it because they're so busy with their pro-pot mentality.

[omega_image]

quite.

i was gonna write out a few paragraphs, but figured this was easier.

SAFER - Marijuana vs. Alcohol

the level of dependence on alcohol is far more significant than with marijuana. as for mental health, i'd say it would be a case-by-case basis.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by kiMMie

And the fact that in the original thread it was suggested that mixing "e" with 'yayo" would be beneficial.
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actually i didnt tell him to mix e with coke you slanderous marmot.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by rawb

HOW ABOUT THE 5 PEOPLE WHO POST ON FNK AND STILL GO TO RAVES GET THEIR OWN SECTION TO TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT E AND COKE ARE, AND THE REST OF US CAN STOP PRETENDING LIKE ITS EVEN AN ISSUE o

LET'S JUST DEVOTE AN ENTIRE SECTION TO COKE AND ALL OVER PRINT TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE EX RAVERS THAT SEEM TO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ONE OR BOTH o