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Old May 25, 04
Sofa King Sexy.
 
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AGAIN! dont know what to do......

I just got home from partying all weekend....to get the worst news i have ever gotten....
and i dunno i have another post on here about my mothers depression...
but yeah this is worse
My little brother....wants to kill himself now.
WHY why why does this fucken have to happen to my little brother...
i dont know what to do
my mom is one thing but my brother....i cant do n e thing for him
i cant save him i need to save him but i dont know how
i cant belive in god n e more...im done with it...how could he do this....:(
MY LITTLE BROTHER....:( everyone is so worried about him...hes not aloud to be alone...they want to put him in the Adolecent psych unit.
someone help me save my baby brother....
im breaking down AGAIN....i cant deal with this.
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Old May 25, 04
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mabey put ur party life on hold and deal with important matters ie. helping ur family.
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Old May 25, 04
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Not to put a damper on your attempts here but I hardly think a rave message board will help you answer all your problems. Especially ones that are this serious in nature. What you need to do is put your family before your party life and deal with it.... end of story.

Hope things turn out for ya...
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Old May 25, 04
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manda! *HUGS* wish i could be there with you to help you out! take carez girlie! things will get better in time!
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Old May 25, 04
Sofa King Sexy.
 
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my family life b4 my party life eh....
u dont even know me. so i dont expect u 2 understand.
obviuosly my family comes b4 n e thing and n e one...
and the reason i wrote it up on here...is so my friends can read it instead of me telling them whats wrong everytime one of them asks....
if u think that its dumb that i put it up here...then thats ur oppinion....
dont like what ur reading? dont read n e longer....
im just trying to find maybe someone who has gone threw this....er something like this.... that can suggest something for me 2 do.
and im still laffing at the put my family b4 my partying part...because u have no clue.
and im not gonna explain it because ur not worth my time n e longer.
have a great day and thanx for the input.
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Old May 25, 04
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i hope things work out for you
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Old May 25, 04
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"mabey put ur party life on hold and deal with important matters ie. helping ur family."

:PokemonMasta: Who do you think you are telling her to put her party life on hold and deal with her family first etc!?! How do you know that she duznt already do that ... MAYBE YOU should shut the fuck up and not say dumb things like that before you totally know about the person your talking to *** amanda's my really good friend and utterly random & stupid commentz like yours dont help AT ALL!

:AMANDA!: Everything will be ok dont worry alrite. I know things seem pretty rough riite now ... but just give it time and hopefully everything will work out for the better kK :)
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Old May 25, 04
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i think the reason there is confusion about time towards family vs. parties is cause of how you started your post with coming home from a party.... and no people shouldnt judge you through a message board, but you cant prevent that from happening.

in any case, sometimes escapism is neccessary, doesnt mean you go out all the time, turn to drugs, ect, just means sometimes you have to get away from things in life, even if its just for two hours. doesnt mean you forget your problems, or put them in a sealed jar on the back of a shelf in your mind, it may just be time fro a break. just because she said she was at one party, doesnt mean shes spending all her time\money\whatever's on parties.

anyways, if your brother is already receiving medical help, there isnt much more you can do than support and love him, and listen to him.
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Old May 25, 04
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manda! *HUGS* wish i could be there with you to help you out! take carez girlie! things will get better in time!
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:AMANDA!: Everything will be ok dont worry alrite. I know things seem pretty rough riite now ... but just give it time and hopefully everything will work out for the better kK :)
WORST ADVICE EVER
Things do NOT just get better "all of a sudden" when it comes to suicide and depression. I would suggest supporting your friend, and keeping your mouth shut when it comes to any sort of "real" advice. Take it from someone who's been there - she doesn't need your false hope. What she needs is for you to tell her to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

Amanda...good. Let them put your brother in the psych ward, that is the only way he will get better if he's THAT serious about killing himself. From the sounds of things, they should put your mother with him. If you want to do something for your mom, call child services or the mental health team in your area. You should be able to get these numbers by dialing 0 or from the phone book. Also, try phoning your family doctor - he/she may be able to set you up with some further help. As for yourself, you're going to need a hell of a lot of counselling to be able to deal with all of this. When (and I say 'when' and not 'if' because it's something you MUST do) you talk with the mental health team, tell them about your mom and brother, and that you want help for them, but that you also should see a counsellor to help you through this hard time. All of these services should be provided free of charge.

I lost a loved one to suicide - and I know damn fucking well that if there had been ANY indication that his intentions were where they were, I would have taken him STRAIGHT to the psych ward myself, and made him get therapy and counselling and medication until he was right in the head.

Don't do nothing hun - right now you're the only person who can really help them because you CARE and because you know the whole story.

If you need anything else, PM or msn me...but seriously, take some action, you have the power to make a change here!
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Old May 25, 04
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i really appreciate what ur saying natalie because i know.
I myself had deep deep depression....and had to go all threw this kinda stuff
i still see a counsler but i no longer have to take anti-depressents or n e tihng....
as for my mom and brother....
My mom wont go into the hosptial...she has some sorta rights or something...
makes me sick...
and my little brother...they just want to do the same they did to my mom and observe...
I knew i shouldnt have left home...i knew something like this was gonna happen.
i dont know what to do....i dont know what to say...i feel like im alone...
for FUCK sakes im posting on a RAVER board about this because i feel as if there is no one else in this world to talk to.....
I want my mom back...i want my little brother to be happy again...
I want to not be alone in this world anymore.
I really cannot handle it
im going to have to check myself in with my little brother....
but like i said natalie...thanx....thanx very much...ur there for me pretty much more then n e one i know and i dont even know u!?you are appreciated...im sorry u have lost a love one.....thank you for all your words......
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Old May 25, 04
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Originally Posted by galaxie


I lost a loved one to suicide - and I know damn fucking well that if there had been ANY indication that his intentions were where they were, I would have taken him STRAIGHT to the psych ward myself, and made him get therapy and counselling and medication until he was right in the head.

I have also lost a loved one to suicide, and I keep going back in time and seeing if there was any kind of indication this would happen, and I think about it tons still, 6 years later. Knowing someone you love feels this way does hurt, but it also gives you an opportunity to just be the most loving, supportive daughter&sister to them- which is what they need. In this situation, it is so easy to feel like you have no control, but there is only so much you can do, some people can only be helped by professionals.

And for you- I think that maybe what some people might be trying to say is that as great as it can be to have your friends there for you, even for yourself it might be an option to talk to someone like a counsellor. This is not easy for you to deal with at all, and feeling like you're not in control of so many things can not always be something you can tough out on your own.
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Old May 25, 04
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i really appreciate what ur saying natalie because i know.
I myself had deep deep depression....and had to go all threw this kinda stuff
i still see a counsler but i no longer have to take anti-depressents or n e tihng....
as for my mom and brother....
My mom wont go into the hosptial...she has some sorta rights or something...
makes me sick...
and my little brother...they just want to do the same they did to my mom and observe...
I knew i shouldnt have left home...i knew something like this was gonna happen.
i dont know what to do....i dont know what to say...i feel like im alone...
for FUCK sakes im posting on a RAVER board about this because i feel as if there is no one else in this world to talk to.....
I want my mom back...i want my little brother to be happy again...
I want to not be alone in this world anymore.
I really cannot handle it
im going to have to check myself in with my little brother....
but like i said natalie...thanx....thanx very much...ur there for me pretty much more then n e one i know and i dont even know u!?you are appreciated...im sorry u have lost a love one.....thank you for all your words......
You're right...she does have rights, but if you call Child & Family Services they SHOULD be able to do something. Your brother lives with her, right? You can easily say that her influence on him is making him suicidal (ie. he's copying her behavior) and they should be able to do something about it. They won't necessarily be able to put her in the hospital, but if she is being psychologically damaging to your brother and you then they can hold her and make her see a psychologist/psychiatrist.

Give it a try...it's better than not trying, right? The only way you'll see results here, hun, is if you try every single thing you can!

At the risk of sounding cheesy:

"Desperate times call for desperate measures."
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Old May 25, 04
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some people will want to kill themselves no matter what you do, just be there for him and help him help himself - sometimes its more depressing when people tell you what you're feeling is "wrong" instead of trying to understand.
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Old May 25, 04
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You're right...she does have rights, but if you call Child & Family Services they SHOULD be able to do something. Your brother lives with her, right? You can easily say that her influence on him is making him suicidal (ie. he's copying her behavior) and they should be able to do something about it. They won't necessarily be able to put her in the hospital, but if she is being psychologically damaging to your brother and you then they can hold her and make her see a psychologist/psychiatrist.

Give it a try...it's better than not trying, right? The only way you'll see results here, hun, is if you try every single thing you can!

At the risk of sounding cheesy:

"Desperate times call for desperate measures."
its unlilely that child services will do anyhting.

and if they do that means her little brother goes into foster care...which will probably only make things worse
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Old May 25, 04
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poor amanda
:(
you should go find some sparkles
or go look for CrazE dave
I think he's missing again :(
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Old May 25, 04
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^^ Child services can do something if they think her brother's life is in real danger.

Take Jehova's Witnesses, for example. They're against blood transfusions, and it's well within their rights to refuse one--even if it's necessary for medical treatment. But if a JW refuses a transfusion for their child, the hospital can file a motion to make the child a ward of the court, give him the transfusion, then return him/her to the parents.

As for her mother, she can be certified (it's called getting "pinked"...30 days initially, and 6 months after the first pink expires) if a psychiatrist thinks that she's enough of a danger to herself (or others), and given involuntary admission to a psychiatric ward until she's better.
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Old May 25, 04
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This is what you can do:
call me tonight...well chat , work things out, and figure out WHAT THE HELL WERE GOING TO DRINK THIS WEEKEND....
2 nights
3 days
no sleep?
im down.....WHO NEEDS SLEEP ANYWAYS right.....
common babe everything will be alright
i promise......ill take care of you :p
love you sweety *kisses*
just remeber...it can only get better!
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Old May 26, 04
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This is what you can do:
call me tonight...well chat , work things out, and figure out WHAT THE HELL WERE GOING TO DRINK THIS WEEKEND....
2 nights
3 days
no sleep?
im down.....WHO NEEDS SLEEP ANYWAYS right.....
common babe everything will be alright
i promise......ill take care of you :p
love you sweety *kisses*
just remeber...it can only get better!
im confused in many ways
a.) didnt even know u where comming down this weekend
b.) i dont remember the other reasons i was confused LOL


u call me....because i cant call long distance...big big bill and i just got my phone.
and as for it only getting better....
sd;ofijsadfhsdfklasjfsadlk.
thanx for ur time.
i love you kat.
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Old May 26, 04
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call one of the suicide prevention lines. Tell them your situation and seek their advice.

I highly doubt that you can get answers here on FnK. If your brother is on verge of suicide, you should really take it seriously and not waste time.
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Old May 26, 04
Sofa King Sexy.
 
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how am i not take'n this seriuosly?
I am not posting on here to get answers on how to get my brother not to kill himself
im posting on here to get answers on how I can deal with this...
i know ppl have gone threw shit like this and i wanted to know if they had n e sugestions on how i can deal with this without myself needing to call the suicide hotline...
thanx.
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Old May 26, 04
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^ Thing is manda, from a rational point of view, advice is great, but honestly suicide lines are the best way to deal with it. They are very friendly and can tell you everything you need to know about the situation.
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Old May 26, 04
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^^ i will call right now.
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Old May 26, 04
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^ :) I did not imply that you are not taking this seriously. I said it is a serious matter.

and the hotlines are great. There are people behind the phones that deal with these situations everyday - and they would be the best to ask. hope you get some useful advice. tell us how it went.
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Old May 26, 04
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MmMmM im sorry!

Quote:
Originally Posted by x0x_manda_x0x
im confused in many ways
a.) didnt even know u where comming down this weekend
b.) i dont remember the other reasons i was confused LOL


u call me....because i cant call long distance...big big bill and i just got my phone.
and as for it only getting better....
sd;ofijsadfhsdfklasjfsadlk.
thanx for ur time.
i love you kat.
i forgot about the whole long distance thing....sorry babe.....
ok i will call you well chat.....ill make sure u know i miss you lots...and im coming to see you this weekend if everything goes as plan....then we can continue with my 2 nights 3 days no sleep thing....
MUAH! and lots of kisses! cuz they will make you feel better
I hope :S
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Old May 26, 04
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I hope everything gets better hun...I really hate seeing you like this...I have never had experienced anything like this in my life so I can't give you any advice...Sorry hun...What I can do is be there for you...Love ya...Cheer up babe *kiss* *kiss*
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