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Old Jul 24, 05
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A question for University/College students..

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Has anyone or does anyone know of someone who's dropped a course so late into the semester and was allowed to do so, and under what circumstances?
I kind of feel like "I'm going crazy on the inside" with work overload... and that I need to drop at least one course in order to regain some sanity...
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Just for my own psychological and emotional benefit I feel like I really need to drop one of the courses in which I'm really behind and am doing poorly in, but I'm already into the last 2 weeks before my finals and I'm not sure whether my school will allow me to do this... I read the school website and it says that up until the 12th week of classes they will allow you to drop courses but past that point it would have to be only under extenuating circumstances... and that I would have to approach academic resources. etc.

I recognize that I set myself for this, but I could really use some sympathy from my school at this point. I've never considered or attempted to drop a course before... so I'm hoping that the school will allow me to drop the course

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Old Jul 24, 05
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working 35 hours and taking 3 courses is insanity. working and taking university courses in general just don't mix well at all. anyone who manages to do this i really hate. lol i did the working 10-40 hrs a week an hour drive away from home while going fulltime to ubc. i started off at 5 courses per semester and had to drop 2 both semesters cuz it was fucking brutal!!! i can't remember another time being that fucking stressed out and completely ridden with anxiety. if i really had the option, i would of quit my job right away and focussed on my courses. but the circumstances around my job depended on me being there because it really was a family survival game. so i had to endure this for a whole year and decided if i was gonna goto university, i might as well go when i have the time and energy to totally absorb myself in an area of study and dedicate 100% of my heart to it. worrying about the job takes up way too much energy.... unless it is somehow related to your academic work.... tutoring is a great job =)

as for your situation.... that fucking sucks. and it sounds so typical that it all has to go down at such a critical point... if you really think that you need to drop this course because your job is that important, then do it... but i dunno school should be alot more important. i priorotized work over school in first year... i really wish i didnt have to but the problems at the restaurant left me no choice really. if it looks like you're going to be failing this course and have a lost cause, write a letter to the registrar and the dean who deals with these sort of issues... they might say no the first time, but if you keep pushing them they might let you off once... hopefully you have a clean history. they probably wouldnt be so kind if you've tried something like this before.

good luck. the best thing would probably be to be firm with the people at work and tell them you have priorities with school. they probably won't be impressed but if you really studied till your brain explodes, you could probably pull off a decent mark. best of luck =) i totallllllly feel you on this one. hope you get through it and enjoy the rest of the summer. you'll need it. these kinda things fuck with us to the point of insanity and serious greif. thats probably why we get an extended summer vacation.
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working 35 hours and taking 3 courses is insanity. working and taking university courses in general just don't mix well at all. anyone who manages to do this i really hate. lol i did the working 10-40 hrs a week an hour drive away from home while going fulltime to ubc. i started off at 5 courses per semester and had to drop 2 both semesters cuz it was fucking brutal!!! i can't remember another time being that fucking stressed out and completely ridden with anxiety. if i really had the option, i would of quit my job right away and focussed on my courses. but the circumstances around my job depended on me being there because it really was a family survival game. so i had to endure this for a whole year and decided if i was gonna goto university, i might as well go when i have the time and energy to totally absorb myself in an area of study and dedicate 100% of my heart to it. worrying about the job takes up way too much energy.... unless it is somehow related to your academic work.... tutoring is a great job =)

as for your situation.... that fucking sucks. and it sounds so typical that it all has to go down at such a critical point... if you really think that you need to drop this course because your job is that important, then do it... but i dunno school should be alot more important. i priorotized work over school in first year... i really wish i didnt have to but the problems at the restaurant left me no choice really. if it looks like you're going to be failing this course and have a lost cause, write a letter to the registrar and the dean who deals with these sort of issues... they might say no the first time, but if you keep pushing them they might let you off once... hopefully you have a clean history. they probably wouldnt be so kind if you've tried something like this before.

good luck. the best thing would probably be to be firm with the people at work and tell them you have priorities with school. they probably won't be impressed but if you really studied till your brain explodes, you could probably pull off a decent mark. best of luck =) i totallllllly feel you on this one. hope you get through it and enjoy the rest of the summer. you'll need it. these kinda things fuck with us to the point of insanity and serious greif. thats probably why we get an extended summer vacation.
Yes, I wish it were as easy as dropping work and being firm with them right now but the situaiton is a little more complex than that. School definately comes first but at this point I can't just waive off my responsibilities to work BECAUSE I made that decision to work in management and I dedicated myself to it. It's not work's fault that I took on more than I realized I could handle... It's my own. And I have to suffer for my own mistakes and deal with it the best I can. But, I could really use some sympathy from school at this point.

My store manager is going on vacation that is well-deserved and I can't possibly just quit on her now. She's done so much for me and worked hard to promote me so I feel a strong obligation to her, and I appreciate that she has so much faith in me. I'm torn between work and school because I have strong obligations to both. I've learned my lesson for next semester but right now the only solution I can see that would work for me without sacrificing my sanity is to drop just one course...

I think your situation with running the family restaurant deserves more sympathy than mine.. as I kind of set myself up for this, but I'm hoping that I can get some form of sympathy from academic resources and get this one course off my shoulders so I don't end up having a breakdown at semester's end.

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Old Jul 24, 05
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but university isn't the be-all, end-all.

i think the majority of people would do well to not waste so much money on higher education, but rather get out there in the real world instead.
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Old Jul 24, 05
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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the school will not let you drop a course right now without very specific circumstances those would include: extended leave due to medical emergency. (Which would have to be accompanied by documentation), Family emergency (Which would also need documentation and permission from the registrar's office I believe), Or psychological emergency (which would need documentation from a psych health professional). You may be able to get out of a course but will either get the big F on the transcript or the W. I would honestly suggest toughening it out for the last two weeks...ask for some time off work if you have to.

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Has anyone or does anyone know of someone who's dropped a course so late into the semester and was allowed to do so, and under what circumstances?
I kind of feel like "I'm going crazy on the inside" with work overload... and that I need to drop at least one course in order to regain some sanity...
**************************************** *********

Just for my own psychological and emotional benefit I feel like I really need to drop one of the courses in which I'm really behind and am doing poorly in, but I'm already into the last 2 weeks before my finals and I'm not sure whether my school will allow me to do this... I read the school website and it says that up until the 12th week of classes they will allow you to drop courses but past that point it would have to be only under extenuating circumstances... and that I would have to approach academic resources. etc.

I recognize that I set myself for this, but I could really use some sympathy from my school at this point. I've never considered or attempted to drop a course before... so I'm hoping that the school will allow me to drop the course
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Old Jul 24, 05
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I once dropped a course VERY late in in the sememster so i just went to my doc and got a note saying i was very stressed and talked to one of the councilers at the school and well it took some time to get the W on my transcrip but it happened thankfully
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Old Jul 24, 05
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Yes, I wish it were as easy as dropping work and being firm with them right now but the situaiton is a little more complex than that. School definately comes first but at this point I can't just waive off my responsibilities to work BECAUSE I made that decision to work in management and I dedicated myself to it. It's not work's fault that I took on more than I realized I could handle... It's my own. And I have to suffer for my own mistakes and deal with it the best I can. But, I could really use some sympathy from school at this point.

My store manager is going on vacation that is well-deserved and I can't possibly just quit on her now. She's done so much for me and worked hard to promote me so I feel a strong obligation to her, and I appreciate that she has so much faith in me. I'm torn between work and school because I have strong obligations to both. I've learned my lesson for next semester but right now the only solution I can see that would work for me without sacrificing my sanity is to drop just one course...

I think your situation with running the family restaurant deserves more sympathy than mine.. as I kind of set myself up for this, but I'm hoping that I can get some form of sympathy from academic resources and get this one course off my shoulders so I don't end up having a breakdown at semester's end.
then drop the course

it's probably too late to be able to do it to procedure so you should get started on a good appeal strategy.... if they say no the first time don't give up. keep appealing till they say yes
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Old Jul 26, 05
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My only experience with this is back @ Dougie

If you've managed to establish some sort of rapport with your prof, they can help you out big time (even though they don't make the final decision, they certainly have some sway and influence). This seems much harder to accomplish @ SFU or UBC.

Other than that, the doctor's note is the best way to go as suggested by SB.

Damn, since taking this summer off from school I've totally missed hectic university life. I kind of want to go back. :(

I wish you the best in regards to your situation.
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Old Jul 26, 05
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Don't do it!!

Right now, if you drop any courses you'd probably 'Fail' the course. In the best case, you'd get a W in your transcript..which is not really any better than an F.

Only 2 weeks left. You've came this far... might as well finish it! Even if that means lower grades.
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Old Jul 26, 05
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every place has different policies, but where i go you can drop a class up until the last day of the semester. talk to the registrar, healthservices, or your prof to swing your sob story and get out of your class.

^a w is definately better than a terrible grade, it's not reflective on your gpa.
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Old Jul 26, 05
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it is, no doubt. but try submitting a transcript with W's for graduate school!
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Old Jul 26, 05
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it is, no doubt. but try submitting a transcript with W's for graduate school!
what are you talking about?

W's don't mean shit
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Old Jul 26, 05
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^haha. ok buddy!
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Old Jul 26, 05
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an otherwise impeccable transcript with one "w" is not going to affect grad school applications. nice justisfication though.


talk to student services, the prof, and academic advising. a friend of mine dropped a class TWO DAYS before the final exam, and this is in the bureaucratic hell hole of ubc, but she pleaded psychological duress because of some serious shit in her life... although the real reason was because she was doing poorly. there's always a way out, just get on it now, and pray for pity.

or... suck it up. it'll be hard for a while, but it will get done. i managed six classses (six papers 12+ page papers :() and 20 hours of work a week last semester and although i wanted to DIE, i pulled through and managed to do decently. you can also appeal for a deferral of the exam or an extension on papers.
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Old Jul 26, 05
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working 35 hours and taking 3 courses is insanity.
working 30 hours and mon-thur 8-3pm class...+ mon//thur 6:30-9:30 class.....

suck it up, in the long run it makes u a better person.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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^haha. ok buddy!
ok you are right about having unexplainable w's. my comment was based on it affecting your gpa. but regardless you are right i stand corrected
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Old Jul 27, 05
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working 30 hours and mon-thur 8-3pm class...+ mon//thur 6:30-9:30 class.....

suck it up, in the long run it makes u a better person.
crazy. when i had a schedule like that i was pretty -=fuckin=- stressed. haha hope you're handling it well =)
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Old Jul 27, 05
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yoko, go speak to a counsellor. you CAN drop a course but it'll take some time for student services to process the request. in the end, if you end up failing the course, instead of receiving an F, you'll receive a WE which will not affect your gpa.

just go to the counsellor and ask about withdrawal under extenuating circumstances. they'll know what you're talking about. changes in employment ARE covered in this, as long as you can prove that it was affecting you enough to not perform at your best in school.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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Is it a section 60 course?

I know at my school the section 60 courses last withdrawl date is the 29th of july.

Perhaps you could go to the Registar's office and ask the person when was the last date to withdrawl even though you don't get money back.

I'm sure they will have an exact date for you.
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Old Jul 27, 05
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Just make sure you aren't past the point where you will reciever a "withdrawl" on your transcript, you can usually withdrawl up to a certain date without doing so, because getting a "W' on your transcript is sort of bad, other than that they dont really care if you drop out, you're the one paying for the classes
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Old Jul 27, 05
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taking a break from school work...

Skimmed quickly, a lot of great responses here, and thanks to all for your sympathetic and helpful responses. Can't reply in depth as I'm racing against time to get a few assignments done and I should make the best of the time I have right now.

I'm finishing the course, but after a lot of hard-work and drama and a visit to the doctor, I received sympathy from the doctor who wrote me a note free of charge which I presented to the examinations secretary. I got a 2 day extension on my final exam and I was naively hoping for longer, but the examination secretary wasn't (understandably) too sympathetic of my situation.

After I told my manager that I was going to try to get an extension on my exam she was very veryyyyy understanding and expressed that she really wanted me to complete and do well and on my exam, so she arranged it so that another manager from the robson store could fill in for my schedueled shifts. She's re-scheduled me a few more days off than I was initially scheduled, and she's been very accomodating/motherly. I <3 "momma jax".

Back to work I go :( :)

And good luck to every one else who have final exams this semester.

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Old Jul 27, 05
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^ best of luck with completing things, writing your final, and hanging onto your sanity. when the dust settles I hope you have a nice break (even if you're still working) and get a chance to reflect on what you wanna take on next. :)

ps: I saw you working the other day but was rushing to meet the bf (spent too long shopping I suppose!) so I didn't stop in, but next time. Nexxxt tiiiiime!
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Old Jul 28, 05
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Glad to hear everything went well yoko! Best of luck in your studies for your final(s)!!!
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Old Jul 29, 05
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Go get em
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Old Aug 09, 05
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I'm sure I'm too late on this one, but:

I have a good friend who was in this situation and she needed out badly of a course she knew she was going to fail. She set up an appointment with the prof and (very courageously) told him she was desparately in love with him and that she couldn't concentrate on the course knowing that he didn't even know who she was. She was completely exused from the class without a 'withdrawl', money back and all were content. This was at UBC. In most cases, there are less dramatic ways to get out of classes.
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