Bi-sexuality, is it too trendy?

[fable]

Originally Posted by Avana

I will admit, I am addicted to Myspace. And while surfing Myspace, I have noticed several accounts with pictures of people kissing(damn near swallowing them whole) other people of the same sex.

It seems that mostly girls, are broadcasting that they are bi-sexual at a younger and younger age.

I can't help but think that this is nothing more than a trend to get attention or an excuse to be a hussy. I have only met one person who claimed to be Bi-sexual that had had a relationship with the same sex, as opposed to just sex.

Are you bi-sexual if you just have sex with the same sex? Do you need to have a relationship with the same sex to be truely bi-sexual?

Hmm, this is a pretty interesting topic, and ive thought in the past many times about how we go about indentifying ourselves sexually, and what is the purpose.

I think whatever you decide to choose is your own business. I also believe that although someone may be labelling themselves for the "wrong reason" whatever that means, i think they should be able to call themselves whatever they choose. If a 14 year old girl is having fun turning on the boys, by kissing her friend, then who give a fuck? Why critique? To delve into if bi-sexuality is a trend, is too admit you are overlly concerned with trends? im sure this probably not true, so i think if people keep in on the level of open respectful dialogue, then its all good.

I personally think someone titling themselves bi-sexual for some need for attention is actaully kinda sad, and if the person means enough to me, maybe id discuss with them - see if its an insecurity thing, or revolves around a need to be validated. BUT if its a stranger/strangers, and they aint hurting anyone, or exploting anyone, then why is it any of business?

The idea of sexual politics, defeats the rights of sexual freedom.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Avana

But do you think you could connect with a woman enough on a certain level to have that relationship? You may not have had that experience yet.....

When I first started raving years ago, I was curious about girls, naturally. The rave scene I think brought that out in me. But when I investigated that curiousity, I realised that it was nothing more than that.

So are these girls just being secret sluts?

Why do use the word "slut"

It was initially created as tool of control over women, restricting them from sexual freedom, and later became as deragetory, in use as the word bitch in popular language. Since you brought up essentially a discussion of sexuality, i think the idea of freedom and safety come up. Freedom to explore your entire sexuality, and safety from anyone oppressing you for it.

A word like "slut" whether its said in jest, essentially shits on the idea of sexual freedom, safety and essentially the idea that your sexuality/how you lable yourself/what acts you engage in(as long as they dont hurt anyone else-without consent) is no ones fucking business but your own.

[Sykonee]

I wouldn't say bi-sexuality is too trendy, at least in the terms that it seems to be brought up (sexual experimentation rather than actual instinctive attraction). Let's face it, people like sex, and the shackles of the older virtues regarding sex have been cast off in this day in age. We no longer feel relegated to follow the standard Sex Ed video-tapes instructions of Step 1. Insert Penis Into Vagina, etc. to enjoy it. When you feel aroused, sometimes someone of the same sex can do it just as good as someone of the opposite sex (after all, who better to know what pleases a woman/man than another woman/man).

You don't have to be sexually attracted to the same sex to get satisfaction out of them. Case in point: in a blackened room, would a guy be able to tell the difference between a woman or a man sucking his dick (beyond actual technique, of course)? Kind of the whole premise behind orgies -it don't matter who's available, just dive in and enjoy.

My guess is this is where this whole bi-sexual trendiness is taking shape from: folks who enjoy sex from any source. Man, are we all just a bunch of horny fuckers, eh?

Sykonee, I think it is gross though that people are willing to hide behind a false label because they are horny. I just don't think people should use that kind of a label unless there was something concrete behind it. Know what I mean? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fable, I am surprised it took you this long to wander into this thread. I am going to say this a different way.....I could have used the term hussy, tramp, trollop. I could have said loose with their virtue, desperate, sex starved or any other way of deeming it, but the fact remains, that girls are tossing their sexuality to whoever will have it. There is something to be said about a little mystery, and making someone wait. And lets be realistic about this, if you met a girl, and all of your friends told you she was a slut, would you say that is a term to pigeon hole her, or would you take their advice and stay away from her?

[LexI:ARR Ent]

I don't think that it has become more trendy. I think that there has always been this many gay and bi-sexuals, it's just that over the years people around have been more acceptable and open minded to same sex and bi-sexual relationships. So then with having more people openminded with it, more people wont feel ashamed to hide what they are.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Avana

Sykonee, I think it is gross though that people are willing to hide behind a false label because they are horny. I just don't think people should use that kind of a label unless there was something concrete behind it. Know what I mean? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fable, I am surprised it took you this long to wander into this thread. I am going to say this a different way.....I could have used the term hussy, tramp, trollop. I could have said loose with their virtue, desperate, sex starved or any other way of deeming it, but the fact remains, that girls are tossing their sexuality to whoever will have it. There is something to be said about a little mystery, and making someone wait. And lets be realistic about this, if you met a girl, and all of your friends told you she was a slut, would you say that is a term to pigeon hole her, or would you take their advice and stay away from her?

Do i sence a hint of passive agressiveness in the first sentence directed towards me?

I too will try to rephrase my opinions: unless you feel strong enough about someone else sexuality, or how they label it, to go approach the person, and find out whats up, for the sole purpose of perhaps helping them out with some deeped seeded issues, the simple fact is, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

As for what entails being a "slut." "trollop" whatever, its irrelevant. If i person is having sex because of something strongly negetive, and it means enough to you, to go help them, then fine, if there your friend and your concerned, then sure, but otherwise, once again ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS - its that simple. We can judge all we want, its human nature. You have all the right to think whatever opinions you want, but,at the end of the day, ITS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

Yes theres something to be said about mystery, and having to wait, but those are YOUR likes, and preferences. The beauty about sex, in this day and age, is that we can be as creative, and adventuresome as we please, as long as were safe, and our partners are too.

My friends would never advice me against going out with someone because theyre a "slut" - because they would never use that word, but they may gentley tell me, that i should have my guard up, or tell me this girl might have a past that would end up hurting me,-from then on, its on me. And personally, i probably would feel a bit hesitant, but hopefully i could convince myself, that, judgment of others may just stop me from finding something or someone really awesome, so if there chemistry, and im diggn on their personality/style, then im gonna bite my lip, and see what happens.

With saying this, i also accept that when this situation actaully comes up again, all bets are off. Hopefully i can act as true, as i speak.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Avana

I will admit, I am addicted to Myspace.

fucking myspace is evil! too big,too fast. im not going anywhere near it!....its like soon i wont be able to buy groceries without a myspace account

[Vitamin-X]

It seems to me that many of these so-called bi girls are actually focused on advertising their supposed bisexuallity to guys for attention.

I'm sure there are actaul Bi's out there. I just don't count the ones who are goofing around for attention and/or kicks.

[sidekick]

i'm going to go with fable actually on this one and say 'who fucking cares'

bi, gay, straight, trans, goddamn there are a lot of ways to say something as complicated as your sexuality.

i went through so many fucking changes from the age of 12 until 19 before i finally figured out if i liked boys or girls. what is everyone's obsession with labelling and criticizing everyone else's sexual development? if some girl wants to label herself as bisexual...then whatever, why not. does it hurt you at all? maybe she's confused, maybe she's doing it for attention, maybe she really IS bisexual...but none of that really matters.

sexuality is such a complicated and complex matter. just stay out of everyone else's hair until they figure it out for fuck's sake.

[Sykonee]

Sykonee, I think it is gross though that people are willing to hide behind a false label because they are horny. I just don't think people should use that kind of a label unless there was something concrete behind it. Know what I mean?

Agreed on this. Trouble is, it's easier to just say you're bi than to say you are sexually passively-bi or bi-curious, which is probably more accurate. Really, there is no catch-all term, scientific or slangish, for folks who are passively-bi. Read up on it:

That's right. Click this!

I agree with Jake and Fable whole-heartedly that it isn't my business. You are right, it isn't. I don't care about someones sexuality one way or another. What I am referring to though is the fact that, mostly females, use this as a tool. A way to bait men, or so it seems. I have seen girls in bars wait for a crowd and THEN start making out. This isn't about experimentation, this is about the need for the wrong kind of attention. There is a picture on this website of that Pauline girl and another girl in some highly suggestive positions. Do you think it is about experimentation?

I don't throw my sexuality in the publics face. You don't see me trying to grab attention with it. Fable, I don't see you doing it, and I don't see you doing that either Jake.

Do you not think these girls are spiritually impovershed and misguided to think that this is the way to attract someone or something. I don't think it is cool to make out with someone of the same sex, that is the impression that I get from these grand-standers.

For those that are legitimatley exploring their sexuality, then so be it. But for those that are, I know they aren't posting provocative pictures of themselves on the internet with another girl, or drawing a crowd by making out in a public arena.

And Fable, you could say it was passive aggressiveness, but it is more about you can't avoid a debate, you are in there like a dirty shirt!

[Gusto]

why are you wasting your time trying to define someone elses sexuality? you don't need to put a label on everything or decide if someone is really bi, gay or just curious. i don't care if a girl makes out with another girl because it's trendy or because she's bi -- the point is that she wants to do it and that's enough.

HAHAHAHAHAHA - oh Gusto, you just don't want them to stop! :P

But I don't think the attention ones should call themselves bi, when really they aren't and what they really just like is sex.

[Jen-E-03]

Originally Posted by gusto

why are you wasting your time trying to define someone elses sexuality? you don't need to put a label on everything or decide if someone is really bi, gay or just curious. i don't care if a girl makes out with another girl because it's trendy or because she's bi -- the point is that she wants to do it and that's enough.

nicely put!

[Jen-E-03]

Originally Posted by Avana

HAHAHAHAHAHA - oh Gusto, you just don't want them to stop! :P

pfffft I'd want them to stop if I wasn't involved

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by Avana

HAHAHAHAHAHA - oh Gusto, you just don't want them to stop! :P

But I don't think the attention ones should call themselves bi, when really they aren't and what they really just like is sex.

haha, no i don't really care. unless i'm involved, it really doesn't do much for me.

[Lil Jenna]

I like boys and I like girls... Don’t know if I’m bi or just horny jkjk



Labels are pointless. The sexuality spectrum has so much gray area...

Gusto, you sound like you have experience in this field! :P

Jenna, have you ever had a significant relationship with a female?

[Ryan Ross]

Originally Posted by Avana

HAHAHAHAHAHA - oh Gusto, you just don't want them to stop! :P

But I don't think the attention ones should call themselves bi, when really they aren't and what they really just like is sex.

Who cares though? This whole argument is revolving around the use of labels for something that, as jake stated, is often far too confusing/fluid to actually be able to label acurately.

It sounds like your major concern is with the girls who just do it to get guys turned on. Sure many people think its lame, and most guys worth their salt will know that they are just trying to get a "rise" out of them if they do it in the middle of the club and no where else. But guess what, go to the mirage or a similar "dog-ish" club and I bet some guy there will be willing to put his dick in both of them faster than he can drag them out the door. Congrats, they got a winner! These are the same guys who think that by talking shit to some tough guy will turn a girl on (much difference?).

Some clarification though, are you saying that the girls who just enjoy the sex with other girls arent bi-SEXual? Is not the definition of being bisexual: being SEXually attracted to both sexes? I dont think a true relationship really matters to be called "bisexual" but we can argue about that all day, the point is, who cares.

[Lil Jenna]

Originally Posted by Avana

Gusto, you sound like you have experience in this field! :P

Jenna, have you ever had a significant relationship with a female?

I would have but she was too scared. :( Sad story.

If I was ever to get into a relationship in the future with a female it wouldnt be until later on in life... But I hope thats no time soon cause Im happy as is :D

[hardstylin]

ive deemed this thread wack.

Who the fuck watches two chicks makin out and says" You know what, I think there fakin it, there not Bi and this is no longer turning me on"

Not me :)

[baby-phat]

Originally Posted by Lil Jenna

I would have but she was too scared. :( Sad story.

If I was ever to get into a relationship in the future with a female it wouldnt be until later on in life... But I hope thats no time soon cause Im happy as is :D

Aw muffin.. wanna go out sometime? :202: <3

[Lil Jenna]

^ I feel a love connection :kimmie:

[baby-phat]

*swoon* :kimmie:

[dabbler]

all i know is, i don't want to get involved (again) with a girl who is bi, whether she is for real, or only just saying she is. (even depsite the obvious perks) it's just asking for trouble. i do find it absolutely hilarious that over half the girls i see on myspace all say BI under sexual orientation tho. either most are lying, or straight girls just don't use myspace as often hahaha