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Old Aug 11, 06
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If they were cognizant to be aware of purpose you would expect to see anomalies in behavior patterns, ie random behavior. That would be an indication of self awareness. The fact that behavior patterns are static shows that the individual bee is not aware. Now that’s not to say there couldnt be some type of consciousness which could govern the bees behavioral patterns on a collective level.

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Old Aug 11, 06
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i guess we'll have to agree to disagree. we don't really know that insects are cognizant enough to have things like a purpose, anymore than a vacuum cleaner does.

i guess.

i cannot debate this anymore, so yeah. i guess we will have to agree to disagree.
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Old Aug 11, 06
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my boardtracker alarm went off for the keyword : matrix

hack the gibson!

oh and i don't really have anything valuable to contribute to this thread, even though i've stayed up many hundreds of nights tripping out about the subject till like 4am in the morning while watching discovery channel and wondering what happens when you die and shit like that... it's a complete mind fuck.. I honestly think that if you think about it too much it could cause emotional damage to you.... it's a really depressing topic because no matter how hard you try to research or figure it out - you're not going to get anywhere
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Old Aug 12, 06
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im kinda happy medium between "waking life" and "what the bleep do we know." i fully appreciate the theories about quantum physics and the possibilities being endless. but i also like the spiritual theories because i get deja vues on a regular basis and can't explain my dreams. there are often times when i fully control my dream until i wanna wake up. life is existance. existance is thoughts. transitivity . . . lol anyways ive always like - life is like a overlapping strips of film -
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Old Aug 12, 06
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fuck this shit...right now im an existentialist, because right now i feel like life dosnt mean shit and we lose people and meaning so randomly.


however when im an old man i figure ill be the only whiteboy baha'i existentialist mother fucker on the planet..
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those frenchies from 16 17th cent had some pretty krazy ideas. :D
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Old Aug 12, 06
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Some interesting replies - all have good points and ideas.

But why does every single person in the world have a "good point and an idea" about life? Why don't we all have the SAME idea about it?


The way I see it (again, it's just the way *I* see it) - is that life is what YOU make out of it. There is nothing and no one that tells you what life is and how it should be lived.

Life is... what you want it to be.


What you believe becomes YOUR reality. When you have your own beliefs about life - life becomes what you believe.


Anyway - gonna go outside and do something productive.

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Old Aug 12, 06
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Life is awesome and you are a whiny fucking baby.
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Old Aug 12, 06
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''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely
energy condensed into a slow vibration, that we are all one
consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such
thing as death, life is only a dream, in which we are an imagination
of ourselves... Here's Tom with the weather.''

^^ who's gonna call it? where did I get that quote from?

I'll give you a cooooooooooooooooooooookie :)
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Huxley?
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nope ;)
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Old Aug 13, 06
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''Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely
energy condensed into a slow vibration, that we are all one
consciousness, experiencing itself subjectively, there's no such
thing as death, life is only a dream, in which we are an imagination
of ourselves... Here's Tom with the weather.''

^^ who's gonna call it? where did I get that quote from?

I'll give you a cooooooooooooooooooooookie :)
Mother fuckin' Bill Hicks
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Old Aug 13, 06
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awwww MAN!! DO I have to make you cookies now!?

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Life is awesome and you are a whiny fucking baby.
Except people like you who make it shitty. You have a good point... life IS awesome - but beta existant people like yourself can't get that point across without calling someone else a "whiny fucking baby". But I did find that to be kinda cute though. You're like... this tough online personality who makes this life worth living for. Keep on doing what you're doing dude - you're good at it.
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Anybody who thinks someone being a dick to them on the internet makes their life shitty has serious issues.

I pretty much agree with Doom.
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Nah, you didn't understand my post ebbomega. All I was saying that if the only way someone can tell someone else that life is awesome is by calling them names - then that just goes to show what kinda people they are in real life.

I really couldn't care less what he said to me online - it's just that he showed me what he's capable of since that's the only thing that came to his mind when making that post. If you noticed - whenever Doom comes to make a post - it's always hate and name calling - his karma level is proof.


Either way - keep on blabbin' and hatin' but I didn't start this thread to whine - I was just observing. All you see is negativity.
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Either way - keep on blabbin' and hatin' but I didn't start this thread to whine - I was just observing. All you see is negativity.
there's ALWAYS going to be haters, my friend.
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Old Aug 13, 06
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philosophy bothers me.

there is no one defining answer to life, because its different for everyone.

learn to enjoy it before you're dead.
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Old Sep 01, 06
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the purpose of existence is to question why it is that we exist.

there is no other explanation for it. out of over 1 million species of animals on this planet, only one questions their existence.

a tiger is a tiger and will always be nothing more than a tiger, and it knows that. a worker bee is a worker bee and will always be a worker bee, and it knows that. both have priorities; the tiger needs to hunt and kill animals smaller and weaker than him to survive. the worker bee needs to collect pollen from flower to cross-pollinate them, as well to provide food for the queen and strengthen the survival of the hive.

both creatures are understand their place in nature and their purpose because it is something that they were born with and it is something that they will die with.

yet, a creature that is intellectually superior above all others understands their place in nature, but not their purpose.

how is it that an animal as dumb as a bee has a better sense of propriety than the animal at the top of the food chain?
with knowledge comes confusion.....u think about anything too hard it leads to more open ended questions...
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Old Sep 01, 06
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Life is....what it is. You could "why?" yourself to death. Just sit back and go with the flow.
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i try not to think about this stuff as much as I used to when I was a bit younger.

Tho I really value the ability to question ones own existence and environment, sometimes it just becomes exhausting.

All the why's and how's never lead you closer to the answer, they just lead you closer to more questions.

the last couple years I've tried to turn alot of those "Why's?" into big fat "Whatevers!"

The most one can hope for is to do something productive with themselves while they're still around. Or at the very least, have fun.

I just don't think man is capable of truly understanding all the grand universal mysteries. We only have 5 senses to work with, when I bet there is so much more going on out there.

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"life is..." = struggle
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Life is death.
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