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Old Mar 28, 08
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GAH...walmart!...come on!

i saw this story on the cnn the other day...pretty much broke my heart and i think its just awful.

but still....they ARE in there legal right...

what is right,what is wrong and what is legal. two completely different things in this case...

Only put the video ID in between the BB code tags, NOT the full URL!

seriously:cry:
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makes me sick.
my loathing for walmart only grows stronger.
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it's fucking disgusting is what it is.
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it's fucking disgusting is what it is.
ya man, this is the story i was telling you about the other nite.

just awful.
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Old Mar 28, 08
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what's happening in the vid? no youtube at work.
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Old Mar 28, 08
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It's too bad that this happened to them, but you should read what you sign and not sign it if you disagree with it :(
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Old Mar 29, 08
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damn... that poor woman and family.

i mean you should always read before you sign... but this really sucks that so much happened to one family.
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Old Mar 29, 08
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Hmmm... As someone who actually works for a disability insurance company and specializes in cases like this, I actually have to take the side of Walmart on this one. It is sad for this lady but most of these disability plans are based on lost wages NOT on medical expensed like the news report says. The way that it works is that you are only allowed to make about 70% of your regular earnings while you are on disability. eg: you are allowed to make $2000 per month on disability. Now if you get income from another source that exceeds that amount, you can still only make $2000 on the plan which means you have to pay the remainder back otherwise many people would be making more on disability then they do while working which opens the door to fraudulent claims. The Walmart plan was paying that amount for the disability say $2000 per month so when the lady won her case, walmart was entitled to subrogated interest charges on that case. Say the lady was paid 25000 for the year 2004 but then won her car accident lawsuit and won say: $10000 per year from the year of the accident, that means she would have to pay back 10000 to the walmart plan so that she is still only getting paid 25000 per year. If she had of won 35000 per year from the year of the accident then she would have to pay back 25000 for the year and she would get to keep the remaining 10000...

It is sad that she was in an accident but if you just let her keep the money then you open up the door for everyone on disability to keep the money... Where would you draw the line? What would be the impetus for these individuals to return to work when they can make significantly more money by "being injured" than by actually working.

Not only did Walmart (or whoever their carrier was) have a legal right to this money but they had an obligation to take this money FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO PAY INTO THE PLAN. This is a perfect example of how the media colours information for one side or another. Seriously people the ramifications of Walmart actually letting this lady keep her money would be HUGE to all the other people on the plan which really need it. As a matter of fact, it may be so bad that they may just stop carrying insurance options for their employees which means that everyone at walmart would have to get another plan that they would most likely be paying out the nose for... If anything, the lady should be going after the person who hit her for medical expenses AND lost wages.

If you're gonna be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the US medical system which costs ridiculous amounts of money for people that really need treatment.

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Hmmm... As someone who actually works for a disability insurance company and specializes in cases like this, I actually have to take the side of Walmart on this one. It is sad for this lady but most of these disability plans are based on lost wages NOT on medical expensed like the news report says. The way that it works is that you are only allowed to make about 70% of your regular earnings while you are on disability. eg: you are allowed to make $2000 per month on disability. Now if you get income from another source that exceeds that amount, you can still only make $2000 on the plan which means you have to pay the remainder back otherwise many people would be making more on disability then they do while working which opens the door to fraudulent claims. The Walmart plan was paying that amount for the disability say $2000 per month so when the lady won her case, walmart was entitled to subrogated interest charges on that case. Say the lady was paid 25000 for the year 2004 but then won her car accident lawsuit and won say: $10000 per year from the year of the accident, that means she would have to pay back 10000 to the walmart plan so that she is still only getting paid 25000 per year. If she had of won 35000 per year from the year of the accident then she would have to pay back 25000 for the year and she would get to keep the remaining 10000...

It is sad that she was in an accident but if you just let her keep the money then you open up the door for everyone on disability to keep the money... Where would you draw the line? What would be the impetus for these individuals to return to work when they can make significantly more money by "being injured" than by actually working.

Not only did Walmart (or whoever their carrier was) have a legal right to this money but they had an obligation to take this money FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO PAY INTO THE PLAN. This is a perfect example of how the media colours information for one side or another. Seriously people the ramifications of Walmart actually letting this lady keep her money would be HUGE to all the other people on the plan which really need it. As a matter of fact, it may be so bad that they may just stop carrying insurance options for their employees which means that everyone at walmart would have to get another plan that they would most likely be paying out the nose for... If anything, the lady should be going after the person who hit her for medical expenses AND lost wages.

If you're gonna be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the US medical system which costs ridiculous amounts of money for people that really need treatment.
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Old Mar 29, 08
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I think this is the same case Michael Moore featured in Sicko. Everyone should watch that documentary.
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Why is everyone so afraid of death?
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Hmmm... As someone who actually works for a disability insurance company and specializes in cases like this, I actually have to take the side of Walmart on this one. It is sad for this lady but most of these disability plans are based on lost wages NOT on medical expensed like the news report says. The way that it works is that you are only allowed to make about 70% of your regular earnings while you are on disability. eg: you are allowed to make $2000 per month on disability. Now if you get income from another source that exceeds that amount, you can still only make $2000 on the plan which means you have to pay the remainder back otherwise many people would be making more on disability then they do while working which opens the door to fraudulent claims. The Walmart plan was paying that amount for the disability say $2000 per month so when the lady won her case, walmart was entitled to subrogated interest charges on that case. Say the lady was paid 25000 for the year 2004 but then won her car accident lawsuit and won say: $10000 per year from the year of the accident, that means she would have to pay back 10000 to the walmart plan so that she is still only getting paid 25000 per year. If she had of won 35000 per year from the year of the accident then she would have to pay back 25000 for the year and she would get to keep the remaining 10000...

It is sad that she was in an accident but if you just let her keep the money then you open up the door for everyone on disability to keep the money... Where would you draw the line? What would be the impetus for these individuals to return to work when they can make significantly more money by "being injured" than by actually working.

Not only did Walmart (or whoever their carrier was) have a legal right to this money but they had an obligation to take this money FOR ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO PAY INTO THE PLAN. This is a perfect example of how the media colours information for one side or another. Seriously people the ramifications of Walmart actually letting this lady keep her money would be HUGE to all the other people on the plan which really need it. As a matter of fact, it may be so bad that they may just stop carrying insurance options for their employees which means that everyone at walmart would have to get another plan that they would most likely be paying out the nose for... If anything, the lady should be going after the person who hit her for medical expenses AND lost wages.

If you're gonna be pissed at anyone, be pissed at the US medical system which costs ridiculous amounts of money for people that really need treatment.
yeah...

you toatally work in insurance
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Old Mar 30, 08
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I see both sides... but the only way to solve this is with FREE HEALTH CARE!
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Not free but Public Health Care.
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