People who think they are so fucking cool because they listen to underground hip hop

[xxBabyDawlxx]

yeah Im young but that dont mean nuthing...I've been listening to hip hop since before I could walk.. having 2 twenty sumthing year old brothers in the house. Oldschool hip hops just so much sikker...the beats the rhymes...everything. Im talking shit from like early- mid nineties tho, not like HARSH old shit. but I dunno, Im not here to argue or say that I know everything about it. I just know what I like... thats all

[Moon]

hahah this fuckin dumbass i know

he refuses to listen to 2pac

why? cuz 2pac is damn famous and he doesn't even wanna know what the hype is all about, just the fact that hes that famous de-inspires him to look into the music the man has made

what a clown! yah ya like that huh bitch?? hahahaha

[xxBabyDawlxx]

k thats just sad...tupacs only famous because hes dope. definately at the top of my list!

[Moon]

u tell him girl you know what you're talkin about

what an idiot eh? holy shit like so stupid? hahaha

omg i cant wait till he reads this....

[SEAN!]

oldschool isnt tupac and big...oldschool is shit from the 80's like ll cool j when he was a rapper

[Moon]

^sean sean

are you saying ll cool j is now an rnb singer?

[xxBabyDawlxx]

aww...I wasnt trying to be mean, but FUKK TUPACs SIKK! how can neone in there right mind not listen to him and LOVE it

[Moon]

^excatly

exact quotes from the man himself (not tupac)
"uhh yeah huh huh uh i listened to the makaveli album... yeah yeah a few good tracks whatever but i dont see the hype to make him that famous laa dee da i'm a dumb ggan ni ni ya la la yea yeah"

pffft listen to all eyez on me and don't make me go over there and hurt your ass! u mess wit tupac u mess wit me!

[Scarface]

Excerpt from "all the critics in new york" -- Westside connection


"Fuck all the critics in the N-Y-C
And your articles tryin to rate my LP
Fuck your backpacks and your wack ass raps
Sayin we ain't real because we make snaps
Sellin 6-fo's to the dab, what you lookin at?
With your Brooklyn hat and your pen and pad, *****
I got a pocket full of green busting at the seams
Fuck your baggy jeans, fuck your magazines"


That about sums it up. a yay- yay

[de-ken]

dang all u foolios need to go home and check yo self!

think u all know stuff bout hip hop and shiet... fuckin cholos... dont know shit!

down here in so cal... jin da mc be conquerin shit! betta check urself *****! what what?! thas right biatch... jin da mc! ma asian brotha from a different motha!

and tupac who?! man he's done now... the baddest mofos i ever heard who could take tupac to school: the hanson brothers! MMM BOP baby! man i love those guys! they be the baddest mudafuckas around! man... 50 cent and king kong aint got nothin on the hanson bros! :284:

[de-ken]

***aight time to run off like a lil bitch and never show my face again*** :kam:

[Sykonee]

Once again at the risk of turning a thread semi-serious, I'm just wondering what people would be thinking about 50 Cent had Dr. Dre and Eminem never 'discovered' him. Most likely he'd still be underground today but would people consider him shite, or be praising him?

[Moon]

^true that probably one of the absolute main points of this thread!

and the people who talk him down because hes big

[Sykonee]

It may be certain individuals' tendancy to resist hype machines. One cannot argue that 50 Cent's raise to insta-fame was more due to a well-oiled promotional machine than actual talent. His talent on the mic was always there. Dre and Em' took that potential talent, gave it a slick presentation, and the media did the rest. People who recognize this marketing practice don't like to be thought of as suckers falling for it as many in the mainstream tend to.

However, by doing so, they may also be denying themselves some interesting music. If you tear away all of the visuals, all you have is just sound. Why not just enjoy it on that level? Judge mainstream hip hop by its own musical merits, not the image it tries to present itself with.

If the music itself is weak, however... (*cough*NoLimitRecords*cough*)

[Scarface]

50 cent has been around for a long time.........he used to rap with "onyx" back in the day.

And he had a few things that were supposed to come out back in '98, but he got shot, and the label ditched him.

HE's been on the verge of blowing up for a long time.

All of the backpack hip hopers have mix tapes floating around........just hoping dre or puff will get ahold of one and sign them.

Jealousy is a beeotch.

[xxBabyDawlxx]

I dun relli care for fifty cent never heard nething from him i relli liked...but if sumone has a 50cent trakk they think I might like tell me and Ill download it

[Moon]

i actually kindal ike 50 cent

hes fuckin scary! haha i mean damn i would NEVER wanna fuck with him. ja rule? pffffft. ok that guy isnt intimidating at all. lotta good tunes from him as well though i'll give him that


but fiddy.... haha u didnt like in da club? i also really like wanksta and if i can't.... really dope tracks

and the gunit stuff is hardcore... poppin them thangs... gangggstaahh!!!

[xxBabyDawlxx]

I think I would like all that stuff so much betta if i didnt have so many fukkin wiggers in my school walking down the hall way decked out in enyce and roca wear from head to toe yelling "G-g-g-g-g-g-G-UNIT!"

[Moon]

my god i am SO glad not to be in high school anymore

=)

[krome]

hahah YEAH ANGEE fucking g-unit wiggers at my skool so glad i dont gotta deal wit dat shit no more. yeah tupac's da shiet i dont care for fifty that much either altho i realli like that ong poppin dem thangs or whatever its called. good beat. good rhymes.....yeah ja rules a fucker

[decypher]

lol my friends little brother has a couple buddys who were decked out in shady hat's, shirts and sweatshirts, and theres 2 of them who are twins brothers and they both wear all the clothes all at once... its nuts

[xxBabyDawlxx]

yeah those damn wiggers ruining music for me... SIGH... what can u do about it tho. Yeah as for 'in da club' and 'wanksta'... decent tracks but the radio ruined them. Fukk I hate how they always overplay shit.
haha ali... Im complaining about the wiggers at MY school eh?? poor u!! haha. I say we go on a killing spree!

[Grapes]

If it's good, it's good. If it's shit, it's shit. Who gives a shit how popular the artist is?

That said, fact of the matter is that a lot of artists DO lose their edge when they start making a lot of coin. MCing is rapping about what you know, your environment around you... what happens when your reality is no longer the gritty streets of the ghetto but instead limos and comfy dressing rooms? What happens to the passion, the desperation that these people have, knowing that MCing might be the only shot they have of making something of themselves? Are they still hungry? Are they still passionate about their music?

This is why you gotta give huuuge props to someone like Jay Z, who's as big as they get and still puts out ill shit.

Like I said.. if it's good, it's good.....

[Moon]

Originally posted by Grapes
If it's good, it's good. If it's shit, it's shit. Who gives a shit how popular the artist is?

That said, fact of the matter is that a lot of artists DO lose their edge when they start making a lot of coin. MCing is rapping about what you know, your environment around you... what happens when your reality is no longer the gritty streets of the ghetto but instead limos and comfy dressing rooms? What happens to the passion, the desperation that these people have, knowing that MCing might be the only shot they have of making something of themselves? Are they still hungry? Are they still passionate about their music?

This is why you gotta give huuuge props to someone like Jay Z, who's as big as they get and still puts out ill shit.

Like I said.. if it's good, it's good.....

good points but still u've missed out the main flaw
mc's rapping about their surrounding that is.

what seaparates the elite from the ordinary....? lets look at mcs. an mc who raps about thier surroundings is usually basically a technical mc with flow that is catchy. its art. whoohoo we all love it dont we? but whats their mission? do they have a deep message they want to preach? or are they simply just artists who rap about whatever their surroundings are?

tupac shakur. he was surrounded with riches, bitches, rolexes, all the ice he wanted, he was backed by suge knight who is the scariest motherfucker u dont ever wanna know. but what sustained his music?

his word
his head
his heart

dass mah werd bitches

[Moon]

jay z

hes great
but look at the respect he gets

sigh
hes a businessman... very smart.. but wasn't smart enough to match 2pacs level