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Wearing shitty clothes is just as much a status symbol as wearing high-end gear. 
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(p.s.-Hi goat!) Last edited by yoko*; Dec 30, 04 at 12:44 AM.
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Am I the only one that found him saying:
"why do men feel the need to dress up like their girlfriends crossed with their favorite rappers?" incredibly hilarious?
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Dec 30, 04
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thanatos you are right that i was agreeing with you for the most part! i was simply attacking your boob job avatar because it embodies a much worse vanity problem than trying to wear the latest style. that's ok i think boob jobs are on their way out popularity wise??? i was not attacking your initial argument, but simply pointing out a contradiction, an apparent discrepancy perhaps. get it? yes there are a lot of girls out there that dress the same way. mainstream is mainstream; it's what is popular, there's really no way to avoid it. also what yoko said about all of us being exposed to the same social norms/culture (right down to the way we dress), it can't be helped. i'm not a huge fan of the mainstream (as i have dubbed it) either. pretty down to earth and was always anti girlie girl cloning. uggh high school. and if you want to get technical about my arguments well that is just my specialty!! could have been my major. when you say that i make little or no sense that is called the ad hominem fallacy. trying to attack my argument by attacking the arguer themselves ("think before i write") instead of the argument itself/examples within. i'd like to see where you think there was no thinking involved other than what i have already explained. p.s. the best confidence booster for me was travelling to the other side of the world by myself (paid for myself) just to see if i could do it. i didnt do it to gain confidence but found that out when i got back. and in the that was WAY more expensive than a boob job.
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Who the fuuuuuck are you to tell people how they can and cannot keep warm? Did you ever think people wore the jackets and the boots to do that, too? Waaa waaaa waaaa.
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ps- one could argue, of course, that YOU are the vain one. You seem to notice/care about what people wear and why they wear it more than the average person, you also seem to take the liberty of telling people what's wrong with their choices made in fashion more than a lot of people I know.
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wow, this thread has gotten intense.
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Dec 30, 04
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This seems like a silly topic overall... I wear what I want to wear when I want to wear it. If what I'm wearing happens to be 'IN' at the time does that make me a slave to pop culture or unoriginal??
Personally I don't think so. I wear it because I like it, nothing more, nothing less. Face it though, we live in a consumer driven society and even moreso a society that looks down on people if they don't have what's 'HOT'. When it comes to kids dressing like their fave pop stars it doesn't bother me... I remember very clearly what it was like to be a kid. I remember kids whose parents couldn't afford the hot new look.... they were ridiculed and made fun of incessantly. Kids are quite possibly the cruelest beings on the planet.  Bottom line is this: If wearing something makes someone happy then let them be. Who cares if it's original, who cares if it ISN'T? Who cares if it cost $100 or $10? Who really cares what SOMEONE ELSE wants to do with themselves? Shut the fuck up and get YOURSELF dressed in the morning and hope that no one thinks the same shit about you as you seem to think about others. (I'm assuming I'll get a 'I don't care what they think' response here but WHATEVER)
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yeah... werd to that. they'd look SO hawt!
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Dec 30, 04
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whoa I must have missed something... how'd that comment I posted last end up on the third page? when I posted it there was only 2 pages! LoL
anyways, Myra, you have a fur coat, and that's ok... we all make mistakes... just admit it was a mistake and be happy the likelihood of someone buying a fur trimmed coat because it's warmer is REALLY low in Vancouver... because it doesn't really get THAT cold here... this isn't the arctic, come on all I'm trying to say is that people need to stop looking to their posessions for social status and self-esteem be a good person and be true to yourself, that's the road to good self-esteem! I'll admit that I have my share of vanity... I wouldn't be human if I didn't! but I don't let it rule my life I don't say 'oh my god I got paid! it's like, totally time for a shopping spree! I like totally need 8 more new pairs of shoes! teehee!'
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Dec 31, 04
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you are not a clone of your parents, that way not being a "carbon copy". you have genes from both making you unlike either. you are therefore genetically unique from any other human being in the planet. and your adoption of norms is uncouncious, right? the human mind works differently from person to person, making the view of what is a norm, vary from person to person. you of course are influenced, but understanding of ideas and abstracts varies hugely from person to person. by being aware of what a trend slave is, you have the choice to follow a trend (and i mean any sub-cultural trend as well) or not. originality comes from your interpretation, wether it coincides with a norm of not. originality is knowing the choice and making it. i think his whole critique is on the fact that some people will follow without questioning why. a lot of people wear things for the fact that other people wear them, and because other people wear them, and because other people wear them, because it starts with a status symbol. what i got from his argument is that status should not be gained through what you can display materialy but what you can do to enhance yours and other people's lives.
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i wish i had a fur coat. my buddies mom had one and i borrowed it on a sketchy sunday. i shaved my head so that i had a mohawk, grabbed my friends grandmothers cane, and threw on some huge sunglasses. then went for a walk on lonsdale.
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