milli vanilli style mixing...

[G3N3R4L]

does this go on?

i've heard some rumors of some djs recording other djs mixes and letting them call it thiers.

i mean what is the rule of thumb? if i help another dj actually record a mix (not constructive criticism).. but opt to not put my name on it .. is that ok?

MC Mario and Chris Sheppard both use pinch djs.. does it happen in the van scene .. and more importantly.. would you respect any dj that did it?

(purely a theoretical discussion based on heresay)

[mekim]

i don't get it. if you're that bad of a dj, why not just throw all your tracks into ableton and make the mix by hand?

[G3N3R4L]

exactly my point.

if you cant be bothered to get up and do it yourself.. why bother being a dj.


but it happens.. oh it happens..


just wondering how it may be percieved from a different point of view

[Moon]

i dont really care because any idiot can mix

[*STARFISH*]

ya ive heard of a couple of locals (who will remain nameless.. )
that have done/do this

seriously
like why bother if you cant live up to whats on your demo when you play out
if you want some feedback of course there nothing wrong with getting someones opinion on track selection or whatever
but im sorry if you wanna slap your name on it
you should physically be the one mixing.. imho

[*STARFISH*]

Originally Posted by Moon

i dont really care because any idiot can mix

more like any idiot should be able to mix
cmon martin, we both know there are people who play out who couldnt mix their way out of a bowl..or something.. lol

[G3N3R4L]

Originally Posted by Moon

i dont really care because any idiot can mix

you dont feel in any way that it's false advertising?

[G3N3R4L]

Originally Posted by *STARFISH*

more like any idiot should be able to mix
cmon martin, we both know there are people who play out who couldnt mix their way out of a bowl..or something.. lol

and that being said.. mixing isnt the only part of being a dj.. but its a pretty good fundamental requirement.

[BenGiovanni]

Im assuming they would get someone else to record for them becuase some people just dont have enough time to make a cd. Especially if doing it by hand on Ableton Live...

I find that there should also be a difference aswell in between the quality, "Demos" should be mixes displaying your skills in a one shot mix, those should be done by the dj themselves.
Labels sell compilations, and these can be done over a course of a day-week depending on the work load, and in the end any person can slap their name on the cd to brand it. A prime example Dj Deans Tunnel Trance Force compilaions clearly show the mixing lately is all done on a computer. Usually its done with a TON of help from his studio techs, but in the end since he selected the tracks... and did SOME work, he took the credit. Locally though, i dont think there is a need, and if someone has done so... good for them.

with the scene today; everyone wants to be a rockstar, in the most laziest way.

[G3N3R4L]

Ben: i agree, when you are dealing with a label and production studio and they have big money on you.. its not so much about your skill at making a flawless mix..

its about marketing you and its a big collab with all the resources your provider has to offer.



but yeah, for a promo mix that is supposed to be used to showcase the djs talents.. in hopes of attracting promoters.. having someone do your work is not only lazy but very unprofessional... (IMO)

[dabbler]

the proof will be the first time they get booked based on a mix that is better than they can spin. and they won't be booked again unless its by a lame promoter.

[G3N3R4L]

Originally Posted by dabbler

the proof will be the first time they get booked based on a mix that is better than they can spin. and they won't be booked again unless its by a lame promoter.

well some promoters book on other things. look, image, gender etc..

i mean for instance.. if someone is putting on an all midget show.. you have to book midgets.. even if they are mediocre behind the decks.

[mekim]

Originally Posted by G3N3R4L

i mean for instance.. if someone is putting on an all midget show.. you have to book midgets.. even if they are mediocre behind the decks.

holy fuck, when is this all midget show you're talking about? i'll finally get a chance to show my skillz.

[G3N3R4L]

you get 6 midgets in a room with a pair of decks and some speakers..

and we have ourselves a party.

[mekim]

fuck the decks & speakers. just get the midgets.

[C-Biz]

Ever since CD decks came into play Ive been suspicious of DJs pre beat matching all their tracks. So now I appreciate all (or dominantly), vinyl sets

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by *STARFISH*

more like any idiot should be able to mix
cmon martin, we both know there are people who play out who couldnt mix their way out of a bowl..or something.. lol

ha ha haaaa

Personally, I agree with you Miss Starfish.

[ebbomega]

Unless you're absolutely godawful, nobody notices the mixing except for DJs.

Track selection is seriously 90% of the job.

**

The fun variation on this theme is the Live PA act performing on synths that aren't plugged in. Usually this doesn't happen with locals though... just big names on tour.

[dj_soo]

could be worse - could be something like this:

http://forums.djztrip.com/showthread.php?t=10925

[G3N3R4L]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

could be worse - could be something like this:

http://forums.djztrip.com/showthread.php?t=10925

wow. i wouldnt even know how to handle that if I heard someone try and pull that.

and 'air scratching'... funniest visual ever.

[mekim]

i think the funniest part of that link is this reaction:

Originally Posted by tonedef

YOU SHOULD HAVE "COCK PUNCHED" HIM...
fuckin poser.
i would have made him appologize to the crowd.
i would go back there time and time again just to mock his sorry ass...
could you imagine if that was Z in there.
Like WTF? thats my shit?
people like that should be forced to watch MTV with their eyelids proped open for the rest of their lives.
i would say thats worse than death could ever be.
t R a V i S. . .
(thinks to himself, hmmmmm i wonder if i could pull this off. i could be a superstar dj)

it's a club, the dj sucks, congratulations that you're better than him, i'd love to see you try this. even funnier would have been when the bouncers were dragging this guy's sorry ass out of the club making a fool out of him.

we busted one of the long term local dj's in whistler playing a cd one time in garf's. sure had a good laugh bothering him about that for the next couple of years.

[QUITEFRANKLY]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

could be worse - could be something like this:

http://forums.djztrip.com/showthread.php?t=10925

OMFG THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENS? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Wood]

i used to have a midget do all my mixing for me, he'd set up on another set of decks underneath the DJ booth and i'd just read the crowd & tell him what to play. worked like a charm until he started demanding a bigger cut of the loot, i actually had to learn how to mix myself.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by Wood

i used to have a midget do all my mixing for me, he'd set up on another set of decks underneath the DJ booth and i'd just read the crowd & tell him what to play. worked like a charm until he started demanding a bigger cut of the loot, i actually had to learn how to mix myself.

Why? A midget can mix without kneecaps.

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Originally Posted by Wood

i used to have a midget do all my mixing for me, he'd set up on another set of decks underneath the DJ booth and i'd just read the crowd & tell him what to play. worked like a charm until he started demanding a bigger cut of the loot, i actually had to learn how to mix myself.

LOLZ!!!!!