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(highschool with cigarettes?..heh) 
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Jan 12, 03
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ok, seems like there are two topics here....
some people have said that he sucked becuase he played "top 40" jungle and anthems (mikey), to which the general response is "what the fuck did you think he was going to do at a massive where he's playing to a bunch of 16 year old kids?" besides, andy has always played the hits, nothing new about that..... the other complaint was that he sucked, and that he sucked every other time he played here (jap). it's quite possible that he sucked that night, maybe he trainwrecked, maybe his selection was off, maybe he got too drunk hanging with me and matt at the lotus before he went down, maybe the monitors/setup sucked and he couldn't hear shit, maybe he just plain blew it, or maybe a combination of the above.......but if you honestly think that he sucked every other time he played in van.....maybe you don't realize that he held down the main residencies at airtight and pressure, and with that and the parties etc....he's played, i don't know, 500+ times in van before he moved......you really think he sucked all those times?
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Jan 12, 03
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Yeah, the general negative response is kind of disappointing considering Andy B helped build the jungle scene as it is now in this city.....hell, I was 15 and I had kickass Andy B mixtapes choc' full of anthems that are still some of the best mixtapes I've ever had.. (too bad my walkman ate them :|) ...I'll bet anyone with a like for dnb would really really appreciate them as well. Some of the best anthems ever are older tracks.
The only times I've seen the guy perform poorly is when he was quite obviously extremely intoxicated...we can all relate to that...
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Jan 12, 03
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Remember you using the calling the kettle blck cliche? Drugs destroy your short term memory. The irony is pretty thick huh? Biatch... Last edited by wigglesworth; Jan 12, 03 at 09:37 PM.
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Jan 12, 03
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Maybe you should be clearer when you post things like that then. Sean and I both got the wrong impression.
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Jan 12, 03
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As for andy b. Mikey's point is: why fly a dj from toronto to vancouver to play anthem songs that you can hear from any dj in the city? Sure, he might be great technically, but then there's a lot of djs in van today that are just as good.
If you're spending the money on airfare for a dj +hotel and large fee, shouldnt they be providing that no one else in the city can? Newer tracks? Unique style? Something...? Too many djs are being brought in to vancouver, just for the sake of having an out-of-towner, or because it looks good on a flyer. Its like james steele. This andy b guy played an average set. If he was a local i wouldnt have thought twice about it, and neither would mikey. We would've thought, oh look another average dj from vancouver. But, when someone is brought out of town, there should be something special there. Anthem jungle is not special. Special would be the anthems that ARENT YET ANTHEMS. New records that WILL be anthems. All mikey said was that the guy played a very average plaza of nations, popular record fueled set. Then all these ppl jump on him, thinking they're being witty. The fact of the matter is the guy DID exactly what mikey said he did. He didnt make one comment on his djing skill, or his past in this city. You guys brought it up, not him. The jungle scene in this city is so fucked.
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Jan 12, 03
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look at the topic of this thread. mikey did his job by answering it without commenting on andy b's skill as a dj. infact, mikey even said that if he saw andy b spin at the lotus he'd probably like andy b better i think mikey's point is a valid one. why bring a headliner to a party if hes just going to spin anthems that any local dj can get his hands on? when i see the name of a headliner on a flyer i get excited and think that he/she's gonna spin out-of-the-world tracks that no one's ever heard before (atleast thats what i think)..and thats what i hope for. i dont go to parties just to SEE headliners, i go to parties to HEAR headliners... and i for one DONT want to hear anthems from one of the top dnb dj's in canada its sad but true.. the plaza does promote dj's to play towards the newbie crowd john 2899131
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Jan 12, 03
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wiggles and stringbeans you both have really good points. i myself also would expect to hear a new fresh set but then twisted should of booked someone else like someone from the vinyl syndicate crew who HAVE up to date dubs.
but wow. haha i'm happy to hear that people want fresh shit now, not just anthems! cheers to that!
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Jan 12, 03
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Then again k pryde....your set at rudolph did sound a helluva lot like the trance n bass cd off of mixmag done by jon b.
Its all good though, its a new style and thats good.
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Its a really sweet cd. If i had it on mp3 i'd send it to ya.
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Jan 12, 03
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btw kpryde.. i lost ur icq# and i want more sets :)
john 2899131
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im gonna record a new mix next thursday with a few of those tracks...
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Jan 13, 03
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Last edited by SEAN!; Jan 13, 03 at 12:31 AM.
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Jan 13, 03
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it's pretty funny that if it wasn't for andy b, a lot of these cats wouldn't have an idea what the fuck jungle is in vancity.
andy may have had a bad set, or he probably was playing for the plaza crowd. still a good guy and when ive seen him ive never been dissapointed, your milage may vary.
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Jan 13, 03
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i've never seen him.. nor do i want to see him
none of your opinions mean squat.. the guy is just going to keep on doing his thing wheather you like it or not.. If your opinions mattered, his vancouver show's wouldnt be very popular now would they? bye fucks
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Jan 13, 03
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:sick: You guys say hes done so much for the shitty try-hard jungle scene in vancouver. You say he had an off night. An off night means he got drunk and fucked up mixing. Or that he had to play 3 shows in 4 nights and was tired and wasnt into it. An off night however, does not include playing 90 minutes of played out jungle anthems. That means he was either: a) playing down to the crowd. (which is fucking stupid and means hes a chump for not playing what he's really into just to please some plaza kids) or b) hes got terrible taste in music for a dj who's being flown in from across the country who should be better then your average local. Either way he played like a chump. He will be a chump to me until im proven otherwise. I hope he comes back to town and wows me (like he should in the first place if hes getting flown from out of town to dj.) Otherwise, whats the point? Its just a waste of money on another "name" dj who didnt live up to expectations. Like a lot of djs that get flown in from out of town. John b on the other hand..... Last edited by wigglesworth; Jan 13, 03 at 01:23 AM.
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Jan 13, 03
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its sad but the most talented drumnbass djs are alot more expensive. what do you expect? its still a young genre with a dj scene that isnt very well built in comparison to production but one day hopefully that will change :y: its funny how you just looked down on dieselboy because he is one of the only drumnbass djs in this world who has something fresh, unique and has consistantly amazing mixing skills every time he plays (with the exception of the odd "bad day" here and there).
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Jan 13, 03
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guess I stirred up quite the hot topic lol, I now see that he must not of had the greatest set @ new years but I agree with alot of you that he once was highly respected in our city... anyone remember "Sweet gets wicked 1998".... he basically stole the how from the headliners.... the fact is any good DJ can have a different set here and there and theres no way you can like every single one. Now that promoters know that the "top 40" shit isn't the kind of jungle people wanna hear..... Im sure the next choice for jungle headliner will be totally different. Theres a better junglist comin spring break weekend, ill post more when i get it. Peace
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Jan 13, 03
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regardless of the quality of andy's nye set, i think use of the term 'top 40 jungle' shows a certain ignorance toward the genre. Tunes become anthems in the dnb scene because of crowd response. Because they're good tunes. Not like the pop music industry where it's largely based on image & marketing. The best way for a dj to appeal to an un-initiated crowd (such as the average plaza party crowd) is to play tried & tested anthems. Not the approach i would take, but a valid one none the less. Most people at a party aren't gonna be standing around with their arms crossed saying 'aw, that tune came out 5 months ago', or 'oh i hear that every week at automatic'. And if you are... sucks to be you!! if you're such music afficionados, you must be going to plaza parties for reasons other than the musical selection anyways.
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