Calling all DJs........

[Serotonin]

i spin because i love the music i play because it brightens me up on a dark day.The one dj that inspired me to start spinning was Sasha (digweed get's honourable mention) northern exposure 2 listen to it nuff said!

[Jess_C]

Originally posted by SoniK


jess... did you go to expierience 2002?


- SoniK

No I didn't!

[Forgettable]

hmm... music spun:

Noize, Digital Hardcore, Experimental, Gabber, rhotterdam, Speedcore.


what inspired?
I wanted to hear my favoured genres of music on a really really big sound system.

who inspired?
Dr. Doom (the comic book character), ROB GEE!!!, Neophyte, My self

[dj4mula]

I spin breaks mostly.

I started CD-Djing @ school basketball games. We'd "Cd-DJ" hip-hop and rap. I've always wanted to become a DJ. The idea of having power to control a room full of people is just great.


Well, DJ Rectangle inspired me to become a DJ. His infamous mix tapes are something any DJ should hear. But it terms of spinning Electronica, it would have to be DJ Icey.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally posted by Blondie_Jess
Look, I'm not making excuses...it's just the way some males are about females playing...I'm still doing it no matter what the fuk people think. :)

That's still a crutch your clining onto.

gender has nothing to do with it. Trust me.

[Wellbelove#1]

Originally posted by Blondie_Jess
Look, I'm not making excuses...it's just the way some males are about females playing...I'm still doing it no matter what the fuk people think. :)

I here you loud and clear jess!
If I wasnt a girl I would of started spinning 7 years ago!

But evry time I asked to try it or show intresst I always got a little giggle or a retard look as if to say "um yah right, like a girl could spin?" "be carfull, you might break somthing, or you dont know what your doing" "haha you kidding right"

It wasnt intill I started partying I was then quit shocked to find out that there is such thing as a female DJ. Befor I though I was just another tom boy.

And then noticing that there is FAR less competiontion being female(which makes it easyer) I went for it!

However, I still notice that no matter what the best DJ in the world could never be female in socity right now, she could only be the best female DJ. There seperated in two groups.
You have your DJ group and then your female DJ gorup. We still live in a sexest world.

But to boil it all down I think it evens out, a female DJ has it easy getting gigs and entertaining a crowed.
However I think fgemales have it much harder getting reconized for their talent rather then their looks?

[Wellbelove#1]

Originally posted by NinjaBoy


That's still a crutch your clining onto.

gender has nothing to do with it. Trust me.

Face it Chris you wanted to see Mea because she was hot, and I bet you love her cus shes hot, but her music? Oh yah, I guess shes ok huh, surprised she can mix?

DJ's are represented by an image of a "cool talented guy with swarming chicks all around"
How is that supose to inspier a girl or make her feel comfortalble to try dj'ing?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally posted by Wellbelove#1


Face it Chris you wanted to see Mea because she was hot, and I bet you love her cus shes hot, but her music? Oh yah, I guess shes ok huh, surprised she can mix?

Dj Mea, sells herself through sex. It is loudly proclaimed on her site, that she is, a sexy girl. I feel no guilt for thinking of her this way. She got what she deserved.

Lisa Lashes, sells herself through sex, showing off her large tits in skimpy outfits.

I think it is more then fair that I laugh, and rever to them as sexy.

You two, don't sell yourself as sex symbols in the rave scene.
Thus, I don't think of you that way.

[/b]
DJ's are represented by an image of a "cool talented guy with swarming chicks all around"
How is that supose to inspier a girl or make her feel comfortalble to try dj'ing? [/b]

I've never seen and ACTUAL rave dj be seen as this.
Maybe in your cookie cutter, Riverside is good, but the plazza is bad world, dj's are seen like this. But in the rave scene, dj's aren't uber gods.

Basically your making excuses, your never going to be good unless you suck it in, and realize, that nobody cares weather it's a girl or a guy, they're two fucking high.
Or, you could sell yourself as a sexy symbol.



or not.

[Jess_C]

Originally posted by Wellbelove#1


I here you loud and clear jess!
If I wasnt a girl I would of started spinning 7 years ago!

But evry time I asked to try it or show intresst I always got a little giggle or a retard look as if to say "um yah right, like a girl could spin?" "be carfull, you might break somthing, or you dont know what your doing" "haha you kidding right"

It wasnt intill I started partying I was then quit shocked to find out that there is such thing as a female DJ. Befor I though I was just another tom boy.

And then noticing that there is FAR less competiontion being female(which makes it easyer) I went for it!

However, I still notice that no matter what the best DJ in the world could never be female in socity right now, she could only be the best female DJ. There seperated in two groups.
You have your DJ group and then your female DJ gorup. We still live in a sexest world.

But to boil it all down I think it evens out, a female DJ has it easy getting gigs and entertaining a crowed.
However I think fgemales have it much harder getting reconized for their talent rather then their looks?

I totally agree with you on this one! Until I actually attended parties and saw a female dj, I didn't think it was indeed possible. It's true, there is less competition for female dj's, however being recognized for your TALENT and not your LOOKS is something that rarely happens. I hate how long it takes to earn the respect you deserve in the dj crowd. I'm sorry but I don't turn my head for those who give a gawking eye. I want to be respected for the talent I posess not the looks. Until these guys magically turn female for a day, they can't possibly understand. No one would admit to being sexist.

[NinjaBoy]

more excuses?

Miss Inocent is consider by myself to be one of the most skilled dj's around.

Does it matter that she's a girl? No. She plays good music.

Untill you understand that, djing is probably the one musical classifications where sex don't matter, your doomed to make dumb ass coments that make me laugh.

[Jess_C]

Originally posted by NinjaBoy
more excuses?

Miss Inocent is consider by myself to be one of the most skilled dj's around.

Does it matter that she's a girl? No. She plays good music.

Untill you understand that, djing is probably the one musical classifications where sex don't matter, your doomed to make dumb ass coments that make me laugh.

I know sex doesn't matter, I am just making a point to other males, who judge females....that gender doesn't matter! Nice try at turning the table around on us! Sorry, but it doesn't work!

[SoniK]

So If I wore a bra and had big mellons would I get more parties?

Dj Martina in the house wicky wicky wack

- SoniK

[NinjaBoy]

Originally posted by Blondie_Jess


I know sex doesn't matter, I am just making a point to other males, who judge females....that gender doesn't matter! Nice try at turning the table around on us! Sorry, but it doesn't work!

Turning the tables?

How so, I'm just repeating myself...

But thanks for comming out

Marty, I would defenetly give you a booking if you did that!

Wait....

I just realized you said sex dosen't matter, but this whole arguement has been my pissed off with you for saying that is harder to be a female dj...

[SoniK]

Chris

Seriously?

Consider it done

DJ Martina Spinning the tech house.

- SoniK

[Jess_C]

Sure maybe being female gets you some gigs....but that's not what makes you last! And it's hard to make a good impression as a dj when you are a girl...because sometimes all ppl look at you as is a girl, or sex object, or whatever. I'm not accusing any of you guys that that's how you view female dj's...but I AM saying many guy dj's I know DO view females that way.

[NinjaBoy]

No, being female does not get you gigs
Not sucking at a horribley easy task of djing gets you gigs

being female does not mean you won't last, look at my example of miss inocent.

And the reason we few a lot of female dj's this way is cause those dj's that we few that way, have marketed themselves as such.

[Jess_C]

Originally posted by NinjaBoy
No, being female does not get you gigs
Not sucking at a horribley easy task of djing gets you gigs

being female does not mean you won't last, look at my example of miss inocent.

And the reason we few a lot of female dj's this way is cause those dj's that we few that way, have marketed themselves as such.

Take a look at what you have been saying in your replies! I was trying to see your point...then you change what you are saying. Sure miss innocent is successful, as well as a few other females. However, just look at how females are treated...you wouldn't know because YOU AREN'T FEMALE! Take a look at what the girls in this thread have said on this topic. I know myself, that it doesn't matter if you are male or female...I was just stating a point! Something that I have happen a lot! Something you wouldn't really experience because you are a GUY! The world is full of sexism....and of course people deny or overlook it. You don't need to bring in the already successful female names, because that is what they are, already successful. I'm speaking of us females who are trying to make a start of things, make a name for ourselves. Who are looked at for not just talent but our looks as well. I was simply commenting how that royally sucks ass, and that it should stop. Quit standing so harsh against what I said. I was stating a fact, a point, a personal opinion. One which you can't really experience for yourself unless we gave you a sex change for a day. :) Sure I look up to those females who have made it, and I've talked to many of them...and they all have said they've experienced just what I am talking about. If you don't believe me check out some of the female interviews on http://www.thedjvibe.com read what The Sorceress has to say on this topic! I am not trying to offend you, and you need not send me karma on the site calling me a whore. For I am not a whore, no where near if you ask me! I am just a girl, who was sharing an experience and an opinion. No need for attacks here. I am not going to let sexism hold me back, nor have let it hold me back. However, I was just saying that it needs to stop. You can speak for yourself that you aren't like that, which is great, but explain all the other guys I've experienced this from. Especially buying records, asking to play at a house party, yeah...that's what I thought. :219: All this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it DOES happen! I just wish it wouldn't and that was all I was stating.

[NinjaBoy]

"You are woman, I hear you roar"
-WPP

Originally posted by Pshyco Feminst


Take a look at what you have been saying in your replies!

Uh, I have. Have you?

I was trying to see your point...then you change what you are saying.

Orignal Concept: Stop Your whining
Presnet Concept: Quit Your whining

It's basically been the same, there is no sexism, your just making excuses.

Sure miss innocent is successful, as well as a few other females. However, just look at how females are treated...

The exact same way as everyone else

My friend Blyss, when she plays, she is no diffrent from any of the guys.

you wouldn't know because YOU AREN'T FEMALE!

Not yet...

Then she tried to prove her point with
Take a look at what the girls in this thread have said on this topic.

uh, Rhia? What a fine example you used there... Wow

I know myself, that it doesn't matter if you are male or female...I was just stating a point!

that it makes a big differnace weather you be male of female right?

Something that I have happen a lot! Something you wouldn't really experience because you are a GUY! The world is full of sexism....and of course people deny or overlook it.

No, I don't denny it, but it isn't everywhere.
That's like saying, you can't make it djing cause your chinese.

You don't need to bring in the already successful female names, because that is what they are, already successful.

Uh, yes the big names... Miss Inocent... the local, blyss, the local...

I'm speaking of us females who are trying to make a start of things, make a name for ourselves. Who are looked at for not just talent but our looks as well.

Ha ha, yes. That's it... right... I only go to check out the underage dj's.

I was simply commenting how that royally sucks ass, and that it should stop.

It dosen't exist, it's almost as dumb as saying, lets start a war on terroism.

Quit standing so harsh against what I said. I was stating a fact, a point, a personal opinion.

Contradict much? A fact and personal opinion are two diffrent things

Fact: It hurts if I stab myself
Opinion: There is sexism with female dj's.

One which you can't really experience for yourself unless we gave you a sex change for a day. :)

If that happend, I'd be to busy with other things to worry about going record shopping

Sure I look up to those females who have made it, and I've talked to many of them...and they all have said they've experienced just what I am talking about. If you don't believe me check out some of the female interviews on http://www.thedjvibe.com read what The Sorceress has to say on this topic!

But.. you, see, the problem is, I don't care what she says.

I am not trying to offend you, and you need not send me karma on the site calling me a whore.

I haven't before, my karma would be a bit more witty

For I am not a whore, no where near if you ask me! I am just a girl, who was sharing an experience and an opinion. No need for attacks here.

How does this relate to your arguement.

I am not going to let sexism hold me back, nor have let it hold me back.

You already have

However, I was just saying that it needs to stop.

That would require it existing in the rave scene.

Maybe in your little sphere, of playing at WHP parties and resturants, sexism exists.
But at the actual rave scnene, it dosen't

You can speak for yourself that you aren't like that, which is great, but explain all the other guys I've experienced this from. Especially buying records, asking to play at a house party, yeah...that's what I thought. :219: All this shouldn't happen, but unfortunately it DOES happen! I just wish it wouldn't and that was all I was stating.

And all I'm stating is that it dosen't exist.

Note:If your wondering why I'm argueeing this point so long, with stupid line by line comments, it's cause I'm bored. So please, by all means, reply again. Please?

[(val)Liam]

I'm not a dj but when I get the appropiate funds (ie. job) I'm going to get some CDJ decks... then I'll start "spinning" goa, psy, and "uplifting" trance...

I figure CDJ decks would be better because then I can make CDs with the specific tracks I wanna play (using the computer)...

People that are inspiring me to look into DJing are Goa Gil, Wizzy Noise, Deedrah, Astral Projection, Green Nuns of the Revolution, etc.

I think that most of these people just produce rather than DJ... but thats the stuff I would play at a party if I was "spinning"...

[Jess_C]

NinjaBoy

Look, I'm not whining...I'm just sick of your asshole way to tear me apart on the boards.

I am not saying that YOU are sexist, but there are a lot of guys out there, and many are dj's, promoters or just simply party go-ers who are. This was not a personal attack towards you, get it through your head. I never said any one in this thread was sexist either. However, quit saying there isn't sexism in the scene because there is. Why would I even bother to hold up this argument for so long, if there wasn't!? Sexism is pretty much everywhere...what are you ignorant!? It is present in Canada, Africa, Europe, India...the list could go on. I wasn't trying to personally put an end to sexism. However, I was trying to prove a point about sexism in the scene.

WHOO HOO I'm underage, by what 8 months! Big deal! It hasn't stopped me playing in clubs already. What a pathetic attempt to slap me in the face, "underage dj" ooooh.

Sorry that it bugs me when I get bad looks when going record shopping. If someone treated you like you didn't belong in there all the time, it would start to bug you too!

How would you even KNOW if I was letting sexism hold me back!? First of all, still going record shopping even though I get weird looks, playing at clubs, learning how to produce my own tracks, is REALLY holding me back huh? I'm not going to let it hold me back...how many times do I have to say it?

[NinjaBoy]

[quote]Originally posted by Blondie_Jess
NinjaBoy

This was not a personal attack towards you, get it through your head.


Duh.

quit saying there isn't sexism in the scene because there is. Why would I even bother to hold up this argument for so long, if there wasn't!? Sexism is pretty much everywhere...what are you ignorant!? It is present in Canada, Africa, Europe, India...the list could go on.

Is that the rave scene? that's completly something else. Not too swift eh?

I wasn't trying to personally put an end to sexism. However, I was trying to prove a point about sexism in the scene.

but you didn't.
You didn't prove anything, except that you were able to enterain me for 30 minutes.

WHOO HOO I'm underage, by what 8 months! Big deal! It hasn't stopped me playing in clubs already.

WHOO HOO, Wicked House Parties's weekly nights at a resturant, do not constituite club status.

Whoo hoo, So what, I'm underage. You missed the point of what I was saying completly.

What a pathetic attempt to slap me in the face, "underage dj" ooooh.

NinjaBoy: Defently not an underage dj.

Sorry that it bugs me when I get bad looks when going record shopping. If someone treated you like you didn't belong in there all the time, it would start to bug you too!

Have you been laughed out of a store cause of the music you like? well I have do I go on here bitching and whining about it? No.

First of all, still going record shopping even though I get weird looks, playing at clubs, learning how to produce my own tracks, is REALLY holding me back huh?

but your still complaining sexism is tough to deal with, thus holding you back.

WAY COOL! Your learning how to use reason and fruity loops!

I'm not going to let it hold me back...how many times do I have to say it? [/b]

Yeah, and I say I'm the oral sex champion of sweeden by day, crime figheter by night.

But I'm not.

[(val)Liam]

*holds ninjaboy back*

chill y0!

peace...

[Wellbelove#1]

Chris? Take a break! Where not saying you are sexist or that all males are, however you seem to be quite un openminded?


Look, growing up with tellavition and media(before i saw the under ground look of DJ'ing) DJ's where know to be be hard core cool guys in there young 20's to mid 30's with chicks going after them. When a younger female, this is all i had to look up to!
I saw that at dances and all over the media.


When i was little, if i wanted to try and get my hands on trying djing, i was polite and asked... but i was constently ignored. I constently made an effert to try it, And would have to speak up loud and push my way through mean boys who thought it was funny to see a girl want to try handling electricle equipment. It was humiliating to an exstent.
But it took 5 years untill i finaly got a little respect or have someone think, "hey this chick realy wants to try this? thats cool lets give her a chance" nice that I found someone finaly to give me at lest a good half hour to just try it out FINALY!!!

Chris this is what i went though! Im still amazed and wonder where i got the curege to get my tables.

Dont give me that excuse bullshit... I had a relay rough time tyring to try it out, and had NO INCUREGMENT OR BELIFE AT ALL FROM ANYONE!!! And yes i blame that on being a girl, Because that little electric equipment crew never realy wanted a girl to join them and made me feel like an out cast.


Meny girls and myself face this shit all the time, you cant point it out or see it relay. Your self probley doesnt even care, but if you where the only girl and walked into a reccored store with 10-15 other males, dont tell me you wouldnt feel akward a little.

And I still do. All the time dealing with promoters/lighting or sound crew, and DJ's... i walk in being the only female. Its tough and seems strage like I dont belong there (unless there realy cute)

But ive had meny coments on my sets, and no i dont try to sell my self with sex, however meny coments form guys always seem to be some sexist coment or flurty pick up line.

errggg, chris you dont know what its like to be a girl!

[Wellbelove#1]

Meny girls such as Jess and I dont just have this problem with DJ'ing... It happens in meny ohter things as well.

There are meny girls who only know how to act pritty and set this example to meny others. So girls arnt just finding it hard to deal with the guys but with girls too. Us females are still growing up with the set example that its propper to be feminen, wich in society still means staying home not doing anything to crazy . So when ever a girl does somthing besides look pretty, cook or clean it seems wrong or rebelouse. We have to explain our selfs a lot more, cus not meny girls go out and try to be somthing such as DJ'ing... now im just babbling

[vesperstina]

I do not share the same view on this concept; that you feel that because of your sex and beauty you are being opressed. It is not the man who is opresssing you(if it is: that what kind of un-healthy relationships are you in!), it is most likely yourself who is supressing yourself.

me::stina::woman:: does not feel oppressed/repressed/supressed sexually and that any of my woman friends are opressed based upon them being a women. Perhaps race, but not gender.
I believe that may you do whatever you put your mind to. Survival of the fittest baby.