Vancouver's 24 hour Newspaper

[yoko*]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Can one be critical of 24 even if you don't expect anything better of it?

I think so. It's certainly thrust upon us on a daily basis.

Oh definitely, and literally it is. I feel like I'm dodging those metro/24 hours ppl sometimes as they are literally thrusting their arms out at you.

I didn't say that there is anything wrong with being critical. In fact, I think it's important to be, especially with these super condensed papers that often omit details. I've been more critical myself being forced to do critical discourse analysis on mass media news articles. I literally can't escape over-analyzing them these days (ie- corporate/private interests, who's ideas are being represented, etc...)

What I *AM* saying though is that as long as there's readership, these news sources can't be counted on to change their content or style. No company survives without a demand for it's product. If you want reliable news sources or certain kind of content then you'll have to take the initiative to go find it yourself.

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[GSG9]

Globe and Mail or gtfo.

it tells me things i actually want to know. today for instance, i was informed of some real global issues. woot

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by yoko*

What I *AM* saying though is that as long as there's readership, these news sources can't be counted on to change their content or style. (

So we're agreed then.

The slaughtering of the stupids begins tonight.

Sharpening my machete, dunkin' my torch in kerosene.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Grapes

So we're agreed then.

The slaughtering of the stupids begins tonight.

Sharpening my machete, dunkin' my torch in kerosene.

I'm in, I got a katana blade to pitch to the cause.

[Big R]

i only read it on the bus to pass time,

i liked the paper better before when it was smaller which is one of the reasons why i used to read it (easier on the hands), but they gained a lot of popularity and decided to make it bigger,

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by rawb

EACH ONE ADDS TO THE NEST OF SCRAPS AND SALIVA I HAVE IN MY SOLARIUM.

THAT IS WHERE I POST FROM, IT MAKES ME FEEL SAFE.

like that dude from the xfiles!

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Rayeine

I really hate how itensley pushed this paper is on everyone. I can understand that people want something to read, READ A BOOK...BUY A BOOK.............just stop reading this bullshit celebrity shit and these opinions of god knows who. It's pushed on me to the extend of feeling like "here sheep....here is your booklet of the world for today...this is EXACTLY" how it is.....
I mean, sure...the occassional article I can appreciate, and sure..dont get me wrong...stay aware of what's happening to each their own...but there's always an underlying approach, it's called Money.
So next time you read the fine print, give the man with the pouch a lethargic smile with your morning coffee or your reading someones latest lipo...see if you can see the tintin comic like bundles of money that dot the I's...and the s's that are made out of dollar signs...check out the ad's....contemplate the word Celebrity...until it eventally sucks all juice from your soul...until you eventually realise you are staring at the remnants of a singed prune of nothing. And KILL YOUR TV....
simply rip out the back two pages of this paper....inhale exhale...repeat.
If you want to read, alter the opinions written for you, ...all you need is a pen....speak up...so someone else can hear what YOU have to say when they pick up the paper without thinking.
Reading the paper, should not be like brushing your teeth.

Wake up.

how can you be hatin on 24 when your posting on fnk?...

fnk to internet forums, is what 24 is to newspapers.

[Grapes]

Do you really believe that or is it just a catchy quote?

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Do you really believe that or is it just a catchy quote?

what?...that rawb is like that dude from the xfiles?

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Do you really believe that or is it just a catchy quote?

yesterday's future.....TODAY!

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Revolver

what?...that rawb is like that dude from the xfiles?

The comment DIRECTLY ABOVE MY POST, wiseacre

Sweet, I just called someone a wiseacre!

[KrisisID]

i like it, they have some random articles that i like to read, like the ebay eccentric. and more.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Rayeine

I really hate how itensley pushed this paper is on everyone. I can understand that people want something to read, READ A BOOK...BUY A BOOK.............just stop reading this bullshit celebrity shit and these opinions of god knows who. It's pushed on me to the extend of feeling like "here sheep....here is your booklet of the world for today...this is EXACTLY" how it is.....
I mean, sure...the occassional article I can appreciate, and sure..dont get me wrong...stay aware of what's happening to each their own...but there's always an underlying approach, it's called Money.
So next time you read the fine print, give the man with the pouch a lethargic smile with your morning coffee or your reading someones latest lipo...see if you can see the tintin comic like bundles of money that dot the I's...and the s's that are made out of dollar signs...check out the ad's....contemplate the word Celebrity...until it eventally sucks all juice from your soul...until you eventually realise you are staring at the remnants of a singed prune of nothing. And KILL YOUR TV....
simply rip out the back two pages of this paper....inhale exhale...repeat.
If you want to read, alter the opinions written for you, ...all you need is a pen....speak up...so someone else can hear what YOU have to say when they pick up the paper without thinking.
Reading the paper, should not be like brushing your teeth.

Wake up.

they have a target market.

people who dont normally read somehting unless its free.

guess that target market's level of understanding or desire to understand anyhting that is going on in this world.

if they were giving out free globe and mail at skytrain stations that market wouldnt read them because they werent shiny enough and had too many 'hard' words in them.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Most of the AP/Reuters feeds on 24 hour I can find elsewhere (Google News is great for that type of stuff). Anything coming from 24hr's staff reporters is probably the lowest quality reporting I've ever seen in this city. I just plain don't read the thing. It's custom tailored for alarmist uppity "THINK OF THE CHILDREN" type folk and I'm not one of those.

what else do you expect from a bunch of kwantlen graduates?

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Grapes

"Informed" is a relative term.

I can't really think of a blander info source than 24hours or Metro. Nothing you read there will offer any in depth insight into any issue. There are sort of stories and sort of opinions, but they read like re-heated leftovers from the Vancouver Sun.

I buy the Sun most days, for the news, the NY Times crossword and the sports. Getting a bit tired of full-page ads calling themselves "special information supplements" though. If you're going to try and sell a product, please don't B.S. me about your intent/identity.

Georgia Straight is the best paper for providing me with in depth analysis of local and federal issues, as well as much more (oh and it's FREE just like 24 and Metro.. what's the excuse for not picking one up?..)

Guardian online for world news.

G.S IS FOR COMMIES YOU PINKO!!!!

if i happen to read the 24, i do it the same way i watch a sitcom, to veg out and not tickle my brain. doesnt make me a sheep.

[laska]

News quality aside, it really is a HORRIBLE waste of paper. Every skytrain station is like LITTERED with soggy dailies.

edit: btw though, I'd rather stare at my shoes than read one of those things. Why do we think we need "fluff" to relax? Sing yourself a song or something.

Originally Posted by laska

News quality aside, it really is a HORRIBLE waste of paper. Every skytrain station is like LITTERED with soggy dailies.

edit: btw though, I'd rather stare at my shoes than read one of those things. Why do we think we need "fluff" to relax? Sing yourself a song or something.

the city charges for the removal of those soggy dailies. all of those publications are printed on recycled paper and made with vegetable based dyes.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by Grapes

The comment DIRECTLY ABOVE MY POST, wiseacre

Sweet, I just called someone a wiseacre!

LOL!!!....good thing you linked the dictionary cause i was about to be all like...."THATS NOT HOW YOU SPELL WISEASS!...."

[Guineveire]

24 hour newspaper makes my bus ride to Tsawwassen everyday less boring.

In tomorrows paper i get to find out the updates on those 4 women lookin for love through blind dating.
oHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHooooooooooo hhh

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by Avana

the city charges for the removal of those soggy dailies. all of those publications are printed on recycled paper and made with vegetable based dyes.

Is that supposed to mean it's not a waste to have them littered everywhere?

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

they have a target market.

people who dont normally read somehting unless its free.

guess that target market's level of understanding or desire to understand anyhting that is going on in this world.

if they were giving out free globe and mail at skytrain stations that market wouldnt read them because they werent shiny enough and had too many 'hard' words in them.

So, considering as I mentioned before, the Georgia Straight (and WestEnder, where avialable) are free, the target market is really "people who want something free and bland with no big words".

[meth0dical]

^is that a real tattoo? on you?
lol.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Avana

if i happen to read the 24, i do it the same way i watch a sitcom, to veg out and not tickle my brain. doesnt make me a sheep.

Best description of the free dailies I heard was they were "Bus TV".

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Avana

the city charges for the removal of those soggy dailies. all of those publications are printed on recycled paper and made with vegetable based dyes.

That's nice, but consider how many of those things make it into the cracks of the city that the cleaners don't get to (i.e. kicked up by the wind into the inlet, all the creeks all over Surrey, the ones people throw in the garbage cans, etc. etc. etc.).

I've gone to a couple places around here and stumbled across some 3-month-old copy of the newspaper. I'm not saying this is exclusive to 24 hour, but it is a matter of volume. They stuff those in the hands of every single skytrain commuter they can during peak hours so they just end up getting chucked all over the place.

Personally I never accept a copy from the people handing them out. If I'm interested in a headline when someone else is reading, I'll find one lying around and throw it in the recycle bin at my stop. Which, of course, they don't have on every platform (particularly the busy ones) so I gotta carry it until I can find one (If I've got too much crap that usually means it ends up in the garbage).

Litter is litter, I don't care if you pay a fine because the city has to clean it up. Just because it's taxed doesn't mean it's good.