gear noob

[ppcock]

Looking for a drum machine, tired of doing it all in reason.. takes up a lot of my time. I create weird loops and add fills.

My question, A: can someone reccomend me a drum machine? and B: can i use it with reason, or do i compile it with a different program once im done the reason portion?

[inside]

^ quit reason or don't re-wire and move into a proper sequncer. Then use Kontak, or Battery. If you find reason slow, you would be moving backwards with a drum machine, you are also limited to the sounds of drum machine, with the samplers you have all the sounds in the world to work with.

[inside]

I found some good software drum machines man.

http://www.d16.pl/index.php?menu=2

they have a d16 and a 909. The distortion module they have looks killer!
The GUIs they use just won't work on my aging p4 1 gig ram.

AudioRealism Drum Machine (ADM)
AudioRealism has a drummachine that has sounds from the 606, 808, 909. This probly would run well on my machine, and I bet it sounds great.

[ppcock]

i'll demo them when im at home.

[ppcock]

but i was looking for analog.

[ebbomega]

Honestly the "analog" drum machines are overrated. You can find digital samplers and clones that do the same job but are easier to get ahold of.

Notice how the 808 and 909 were missing from Hardfloor's gear in November Marty? They're apparently awful for touring, fall apart really easy and are a severe pain to replace.

Go with a digital sampler or just a standard drum synth with a large bank of sounds and you'll be a lot happier. Most newer drum synths have 808 and 909 sounds on them anyways, and do you really need anything else?

[ppcock]

true, well i like the samples from reason, i just dont like programming in fills and weird off beats.
It would be a tad easier with an analog machine.

i'll take a look at some software.

[Goodfellow]

download sample packs, www.audionews.ru has a billion .. then use a sampler like battery and load a keyboard full of drum hits. i probably have like.. thousands of drum samples.

you also get fills and loops that you can layer and cutup to create unique rhythms/loops super easy.

[Goodfellow]

do you have a midi board or are you actually programming in shit ?

[inside]

Originally Posted by ppcock

true, well i like the samples from reason, i just dont like programming in fills and weird off beats.
It would be a tad easier with an analog machine.

i'll take a look at some software.

That's becuase the Midi in reason kinda sucks.

[ebbomega]

Ableton whut?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

do you have a midi board or are you actually programming in shit ?

This would make a big difference Marty. Midi controllers are always a wise investment.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

do you have a midi board or are you actually programming in shit ?

programming in shit.

when im looking at a midi kb, what should i be looking at?

[P.A.R.T.Y]

First, let me congratulate on discovering that Reason is crap. There are quite few alternatives so I will try to make it brief.
Hardfloor might not tour with a 909, but they sure as hell use it in their studio. If you have $1000+ to spend on a drum machine, the Roland TR-909 is a fantastic choice (TR-606 & TR-808 are excellent too) However, technology has make it possible to own an analog drum machine for much cheaper. Jomox has some great drum machines, as does Elektron, Quasimidi, and believe it or not the commodore 64!! Check out the new MSSIAH! If you don't like MIDI and want to step program, then the I recommend the Quasimidi Rave-o-lution 309. The price is good on eBay and the drums are solid.
Softsynths are another alternative, albeit a flawed alternative imho; You've heard about Battery and the other NI plug-ins. Battery is pretty cool, it has some great features if you don't mind the learning curve and working with sample playback. We can all thank the H20 team 4 the free software cracks. YouTube - H20 SYNCROSOFT TEASER
Drumazon is a nice looking plug-in, but seems difficult to program. Overall, the choices are plentiful and only limited by your cash flow.
Good luck.

[inside]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Softsynths are another alternative, albeit a flawed alternative imho; You've heard about Battery and the other NI plug-ins. Battery is pretty cool, it has some great features if you don't mind the learning curve and working with sample playback. We can all thank the H20 team 4 the free software cracks. YouTube - H20 SYNCROSOFT TEASER
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Good luck.

now, now, play nice;)

[cubed]

Get yourself some software...

Buy two of these...



and shut the fuck up.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by inside

AudioRealism Drum Machine (ADM)
AudioRealism has a drummachine that has sounds from the 606, 808, 909. This probly would run well on my machine, and I bet it sounds great.

here we go.