UFO disclosure on Larry King live

[hardstylin]

Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

fights are sweet!

ya that piece of shit ufc card tonight did not hit the spot!!

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Pffft whatever bud...I met you in person and we had no problems...I even bought you some drinks...go on and be there monday...someone is gonna have to help him walk home.

See, but I talk shit. I admit that.

[Krusha]

ok something has to be done about this retarded dribble

i'll get the boxing gloves for mark and cubed , secretly i will give the lead filled ones to whomever is doing more thinking and less whining

when i actually cared what people wrote online i reacted for making fun of someones physical appearance, which to me ... be as much of a dick online as you want, but when you're trying to make fun of someones physical traits, you might as well still be in junior high, however, by caring at all you're only falling into an admiral ackbar

but, what jimbo did here, was just a little quip, nothing to get your panties in a bunch over, in fact ... the Twins pic was quite relevant , i do a mean Ahhnold YAAAAAAAAL

[Revolver]

this shit made 5 pages?

good lord we(the fnk) are hurting for some decent threads/topics.

actually no wait....this is pretty decent.

i was going to delete this but fuck it.....its goin up.

[tiedye]

As socially depressing as this may sound, I really missed this shit in my sabatical from FNK and I've come to terms with this.

[-evil-duerr-]

i don't know what's funnier. the fact that someone would actually start a fight because of something that was said to them on this site?

or the fact that someone thinks it's going to help their cause if they over-react and remove any previous doubt that they are completely insane?


this website is too entertaining.

[dj_soo]

i feel dumber after reading this thread

[NinjaBoy]

I go away for a couple days and I come back and the thread has gone all batshit crazy. Threating to come downtown and beat up someone. That just makes you look foolish, and lose any credibility that you might have left.

PS- Mark, there isn't really any way for me to argue the UFO thing with me, if your going to just site black ops, black ops. I state something, and your just going to say it's some form of international conspiracy, which you can't prove any aspect of, and I'd be unable to disprove any aspect of (proving a negative is a bitch).

Mark, your trying to post fringe topics, that may be important to you, half the people here don't care/believe. And you don't have the debate skills to win them over. Just like you wouldn't post these on the local church message board, there really isn't much point posting them here.

I leave you with this. You've pretty much dedicated the last few years of your life to these theories. But what has it accomplished, just inflating your sense of self worth. I've listened to watched some of the videos you post on here. But the problem is they all speak to the believer.

And that's the problem with your arguments. You present these like facts. But they aren't. If you watch the videos and assume that they are facts, then yes, their arguments are correct.

[M.C. BEAR]

im down with moon bitches

[*SunShyne*]

Don't worry, the cylons will save us.

[lildonkey]

cubed and djmarkpaul should scrap it out... how about you guys rent a ring and even throw on gloves

I'll chip in to see that

[rawb]

THREADS LIKE THESE MAKE MY ALL CAPS POSTS ABOUT MY BONER LOOK LIKE SHAKESPEARE o

[b0ld]

so let me get this straight... someone got so offended of what was said in a thread that they then "somehow" bumped into the "opposing" person, and confronted them????

thats fuckin nuts, you need some serious help.

[*SunShyne*]

Gangstars!

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

According to a few speakers I've heard from the disclosure project, the propulsion systems that are used don't require our conventional use of gas, which is a strong aspect of this issue.

Admitting these technologies exist would completely change the working order of our society...the current model would fall apart. Imagine if you will, living in a world where you had no need to pay a fuel bill for your car or the electric bill for your home. The middle class would flourish and would challenge the working order of the financial elite. Ofcourse those that have the most to loose would do their best to keep things as they are, hence this embargo.

There is plenty of human made technology that could wean us off of energy dependancy (fuel consumption) ... perhaps ask yourself why it's been held off from public markets on a mass scale.

the financial elite dont need to hide technology from the masses inorder to sustain their wealth. They can simply buy and commidify the technology. Who do you think would provide the capital necessary to conduct the research and commodify the technology assuming we'd even be able to understand an alien technology thats thousands of years more advanced then our own?

You're argument is illogical and irrelevant, financial elites have no interest in controling/oppressing the citizens of the world they are only interested in making money, any thing that comes as a result of their actions is a side effect of their single-mindedness search for returns. k

Also Hydrogen fuel cells are capable of achieving the same purpose, thereby 'liberating' the middle class. However companies like Ballard don't make any money, they only burn it. The people who are providing the capital necessary for these company's to contine their research into these potentially destabilising technologies are none other then the financial elite. hell they don't even care about self preservation otherwise this whole sub-prime mortgage shit wouldve never happened.

what you pruport to evidence is nothing other then baseless speculation.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

LOL x 10,0000000000000000

Nice attempt at looking cocky in person...time to call you out for being the spineless worm that you are though.


What you really said ...hiding behind a sheepish grin was "its just the internet"

Infact...that's all you said. You didn't say anything else. You smiled, me and my bro smiled, and that was it. There was no need to ruin the vibe of the party because even a fish could smell the fear emanating from you.

Im sure you get along fine with George now, because he's not nearly as outspoken as I am...and I believe in shit that boggles your mind, so it's easier for you to just view me as a nutter to curb your own insecurities.

Fact is, you were bitched out then, and you're bitched out now. Do I have to call you out like I did with narc? He apologized, soon you will too, or I will just say to your face, if I ever see you, that you're a lil bitch. Go on and make it interesting if you want...but for your own good, choose what you say to me wisely...either here or in person, because my patience with you is wearing thin, and I don't give a flying fucking about scene politics now that I'm not spinning anymore.

i seem to remember my buddy aaron knocking you or your brother around at a party for some stupid shit you said on the internet, and afterwards you said the same thing you claim jim said. so i dont think this whole im an internet and real life tough guy role really suits you.

[SEAN!]

internet fight?! okiay thats it bitches, imma go tape up my machete come down there and fuck both of you up.

[rawb]

I HOPE YOU ALL KNOW THAT MY COUSIN IS A DRUG DEALER AND I COULD HAVE YOU ALL KILLED IF I WANTED TO o

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

the financial elite dont need to hide technology from the masses inorder to sustain their wealth. They can simply buy and commidify the technology. Who do you think would provide the capital necessary to conduct the research and commodify the technology assuming we'd even be able to understand an alien technology thats thousands of years more advanced then our own?

Don't need to hide technology eh?

Just some examples off the top of my head:

Electric car maker charges Ottawa blocking its sale in Canada - Yahoo! Canada News


*Radiant Energy. Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on Radiant Energy. This natural energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity at less than 1% of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it. The Methernitha Community in Switzerland currently has 5 or 6 working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy.

* Permanent Magnets. Dr. Tom Bearden has two working models of a permanent magnet powered electrical transformer. It uses a 6-watt electrical input to control the path of a magnetic field coming out of a permanent magnet. By channeling the magnetic field, first to one output coil and then a second repeatedly and rapidly, the device can produce a 96-watt electrical output with no moving parts. Multiple inventors have working mechanisms that produce torque from permanent magnets alone.

* Super-Efficient Electrolysis. Water can be broken into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, it collapses into hydrogen and oxygen gas with little electrical input. Hydrogen fuel can drive engines (like in your car) for the cost of water. The US military has made hybrid hummers using this type of technology, and although engines that can purely run on water have been successfully built and run, still it's not in the public market (even though such a transfer in fuels could eliminate the main cause of the green house effect).

Originally Posted by SEAN!

You're argument is illogical and irrelevant

You don't even know my arugment.

Originally Posted by SEAN!

financial elites have no interest in controling/oppressing the citizens of the world they are only interested in making money, any thing that comes as a result of their actions is a side effect of their single-mindedness search for returns. k

The two issues are related, but I actually agree that the main drive is this 'search for returns'.

Originally Posted by SEAN!

Also Hydrogen fuel cells are capable of achieving the same purpose, thereby 'liberating' the middle class.

No it's not the same purpose, but atleast it's clean energy.

Originally Posted by SEAN!

However companies like Ballard don't make any money, they only burn it. The people who are providing the capital necessary for these company's to contine their research into these potentially destabilising technologies are none other then the financial elite. hell they don't even care about self preservation otherwise this whole sub-prime mortgage shit wouldve never happened.

I agree.

Originally Posted by SEAN!

what you pruport to evidence is nothing other then baseless speculation.

I don't pruport evidence, I give leads to evidence, and since you don't follow them you have no idea what I'm talking about.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i seem to remember my buddy aaron knocking you or your brother around at a party for some stupid shit you said on the internet, and afterwards you said the same thing you claim jim said. so i dont think this whole im an internet and real life tough guy role really suits you.

I don't talk shit on the internet, I just stand up for myself. You obviously don't got your facts straight, I've never even gotten into any fights in the lil scene here in van. I don't claim to be a tough guy, but if you bring up my family and talk shit about me personally, you'll have a problem with me.

internet fight?! okiay thats it bitches, imma go tape up my machete come down there and fuck both of you up.

Go ahead and meddle in affairs that aren't any of your business, but it's just more shit on top of shit. Fact is, I don't intend on going there to fight the guy, I'm gonna try to square it out with him and just find a way to agree to disagree, get in the way if you think that's what's for the best, but I can assure you it isn't.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

financial elites have no interest in controling/oppressing the citizens of the world they are only interested in making money, any thing that comes as a result of their actions is a side effect of their single-mindedness search for returns. k

.

really?

thats ALL THE FINANCIAL ELITES ARE INTERESTED IN.

isnt the exact way that they DO control and oppress the citizens of the world is by use of a constant barrage of carefully marketed muti-media images to influence and steer our culture to keep buying,wanting and coveting?...

that sounds like a extremely POWERFUL and dangerous controll mechanism to me. as you say,'their single-mindedness search for returns"

You said many times on this forum how you study and love finance. what did you mean about that little bit about the big houseing crash in the states. I see that story on the news and i find it pretty fascinating but im sure your grasp of that issue is better then mine. could you a little more about what you meant in your post?

[hardstylin]

blacklight energy ftw :)

[-evil-duerr-]

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Don't need to hide technology eh?

Just some examples off the top of my head:

Electric car maker charges Ottawa blocking its sale in Canada - Yahoo! Canada News


*Radiant Energy. Nikola Tesla's Magnifying Transmitter, T. Henry Moray's Radiant Energy Device, Edwin Gray's EMA Motor, and Paul Baumann's Testatika Machine all run on Radiant Energy. This natural energy can perform the same wonders as ordinary electricity at less than 1% of the cost. It does not behave exactly like electricity, however, which has contributed to the scientific community's misunderstanding of it. The Methernitha Community in Switzerland currently has 5 or 6 working models of fuelless, self-running devices that tap this energy.

* Permanent Magnets. Dr. Tom Bearden has two working models of a permanent magnet powered electrical transformer. It uses a 6-watt electrical input to control the path of a magnetic field coming out of a permanent magnet. By channeling the magnetic field, first to one output coil and then a second repeatedly and rapidly, the device can produce a 96-watt electrical output with no moving parts. Multiple inventors have working mechanisms that produce torque from permanent magnets alone.

* Super-Efficient Electrolysis. Water can be broken into hydrogen and oxygen using electricity. When water is hit with its own molecular resonant frequency, it collapses into hydrogen and oxygen gas with little electrical input. Hydrogen fuel can drive engines (like in your car) for the cost of water. The US military has made hybrid hummers using this type of technology, and although engines that can purely run on water have been successfully built and run, still it's not in the public market (even though such a transfer in fuels could eliminate the main cause of the green house effect).




You don't even know my arugment.



The two issues are related, but I actually agree that the main drive is this 'search for returns'.





No it's not the same purpose, but atleast it's clean energy.




I agree.






I don't pruport evidence, I give leads to evidence, and since you don't follow them you have no idea what I'm talking about.

ok idiot, not letting something be sold in a country with a rather insignificant market (like canada) while it is sold elsewhere does not equate a conspiracy to block technology. If your argument holds i guess the canadian government was blocking technology all those years when i couldn't buy a lotus elise. thats clearly a conspiracy because it couldn't have had anything to do with the fact i wouldve been killed if i hit anyhting bigger then a smartcar.

by the way, becasue unproven theories that upon further sceintific evalutation are discredited dosn't mean that they are held back due to a conspiracy enacted by the financial elite inconjunction with their black ops and alein allies.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Revolver

really?

thats ALL THE FINANCIAL ELITES ARE INTERESTED IN.

isnt the exact way that they DO control and oppress the citizens of the world is by use of a constant barrage of carefully marketed muti-media images to influence and steer our culture to keep buying,wanting and coveting?...

that sounds like a extremely POWERFUL and dangerous controll mechanism to me. as you say,'their single-mindedness search for returns"

You said many times on this forum how you study and love finance. what did you mean about that little bit about the big houseing crash in the states. I see that story on the news and i find it pretty fascinating but im sure your grasp of that issue is better then mine. could you a little more about what you meant in your post?

in very basic terms marketing guys think up all that consumerism crap inorder to increase sales of whatever useless shit they make, finance guys assess which of them can do it the best and invest with them or buy them and sell them to some else. then some other guy tells em how muich he thinks the company is worth when some other fool wants to buy and then charges fees around 4-8% of the transaction value. finance is basically an intermediary that helps everyhting else work better, they really dont create anyhting of their own except the services they provide or they help people manage their money.

the sub prime problem is a real good indicator of the type of singleminded greed that drives the industry and the people within it. a level of greed which pretty much makes it impossible for these people to collude with each other in any sort of grand conspiracy(though people have tried in the past but its very rarely successful because no one really understands how shit works, finance is akin to a modern day form of alchemy with computers and money instead of potions and metals.

imma explain it in the most ruff and dirty way possible cuz i really dont want to write that much, but essential what happened is predicated on the greater fools theorem, essentially theres someone always dumber then you, you will buy a security(asset) that you know is garbage at a price that you know you shouldn't pay but say fuck it i want to make money off of this and i dont care the risk i take because there's gotta be someone whose dumber then me that will buy this asset form me at a higher price that i paid for it even if it dosnt make any sense for them to do so. other then the irrationality of the greed involved there was somehting the types of assets in this situation even more posionous. essentially people where getting loans for homes when they had no income or credit. normally these people wouldnt get the time of day from a lender but in the last few years people have been scrambling for yields due to historically the low interest rates in the bond markets(the reason for the low yields could fill an entire thread) and normally the institutions making these loans would have to hold them on there balance sheet which means that the risk of making the loans lies with them. but now basically the loans made on homes can be packaged up and resold to other parties usually investors like hedge funds mutual funds, etc. the thing is when these mortgage backed loans (MBS) were sold off alot of the counter party's pickin em up didnt know wtf they were, also since the structured finance guys that were putting the mbs together could get triple a ratings for the securities(highest grade possible) because the way they were structured hedged some of the risk from the real shit loans that were in the bundle. what componeded the risk is the fact that there is no ready market for Mortgage backed securities like there are stocks for example. because of this the guys that owned em wouldn't be able to find out their value based on the value present in the secondary market(which is what you do when you look up the value of any stocks you own) instead they marked their asset values to a model which inherently contains assumptions which might not hold. now this went on for years and alot of people began to realize that it couldnt go on forever because the loans that were being bundled up where complete shit and it would be hard to hedge(mitigate) all the risk inherent with making such shit loans (dude these loans were complete shit, i mean the only reason they were made is because the guys making em thought they could sell em off to someone else who didnt give a fuck about the risk). so suddenly in august the entire market decided it didnt want to take on the risk any more and the purchasing of this poisionous shit stopped, and since there was no secondary market for the loans the people stuck holding the bag couldnt dispose of the assets. now the big problem is you have all these guys holding these mortgage backed securities that they don't know what the value of is and now are taking huge asset write downs and they still don't know if six months from now theyll have to take additional writedowns so now you got people panicing.

the real funny thing is everyone knew this was gonna happen eventually but didnt give a fuck because they thought they could get out of their positions before the shit hit the fan. and now you got bernaeke trying to bail all the short sighted guys out, easing monetary policy in the face of inflation which just means in the long run main street is gonna get fucked too, not just wallstreet. itll be just like the 70's and 80's woo hoo

man thats really horrible written but i dont give a fuck