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Old Dec 13, 07
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parole is a chance for people to change.

but can someone like him really change?
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Old Dec 13, 07
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the US has a system like that, but they also have a LIFE sentence.

will he be serving his sentences consecutively or concurrently? (sp)

like I already said, it IS life here. He has a life sentence which means he will be in prison until he dies, but he has a chance to apply for parole in 25 years as it is supposedly possible that anyone can be rehabilitated (the law is there 'in case') but he will most likely be denied anyways.
The difference is that in the states, they decide at the time of trial, that some cases warrant no possibility for parole. ever. It's actually only in the US that people receive consecutive life sentences and that just means no possibility for parole, as they usually add up to far more than a 100 years and so well past the persons lifetime

Here in Canada, he received ONE life sentence here for all charges."life in prison with no chance at parole for at least 25 years"

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oh yeah, and here are the reasons why in the US you get consecutive life sentences (other than just not getting parole)

First, in a case with multiple victims, each family might find solace in knowing the criminal received a specific punishment for each crime. Second, the prosecutor might want multiple sentences on the books in case some were overturned on appeal. Third, the court could use back-to-back sentences to emphasize the crime's severity to the governor or the board of pardons.
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Hence why they call it '25 to life.'
"25 to life" usually refers to a lower-bound and upper-bound possible sentencing. Meaning, they can be handed a 25-year sentence, which means after 25 years they get out. No parole or anything, they've served their time, and now they get to reintegrate with society. "Life without chance of parole for 25" is a different thing.
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parole is a chance for people to change.

but can someone like him really change?
That's what the parole board is there to decide.
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Old Dec 13, 07
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this man should be given a medal, but still serve jail time.

they were drug addicted hookers with who knows how many STDs and such. They're better off gone. They were a drain on society (we couldn't make a profit off of them anyway, and I am damn confident they didn't file taxes).

but murder is definitely wrong. very, very wrong.

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Old Dec 13, 07
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this man should be given a medal, but still serve jail time.

wtf?...
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Old Dec 13, 07
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I'm only half serious. Simmer down.
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this man should be given a medal, but still serve jail time.

they were drug addicted hookers with who knows how many STDs and such. They're better off gone. They were a drain on society (we couldn't make a profit off of them anyway, and I am damn confident they didn't file taxes).

but murder is definitely wrong. very, very wrong.
Um. Wow.

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this man should be given a medal, but still serve jail time.

they were drug addicted hookers with who knows how many STDs and such. They're better off gone. They were a drain on society (we couldn't make a profit off of them anyway, and I am damn confident they didn't file taxes).

but murder is definitely wrong. very, very wrong.
wow what did you write before the edit? Hey Myles, here is your next candidate
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Um. Wow.

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"Let she who is without STDs cast the first stone" - Probably Jesus also
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"Let she who is without STDs cast the first crab" - Probably Jesus also

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Old Dec 13, 07
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like I already said, it IS life here. He has a life sentence which means he will be in prison until he dies, but he has a chance to apply for parole in 25 years as it is supposedly possible that anyone can be rehabilitated (the law is there 'in case') but he will most likely be denied anyways.
The difference is that in the states, they decide at the time of trial, that some cases warrant no possibility for parole. ever. It's actually only in the US that people receive consecutive life sentences and that just means no possibility for parole, as they usually add up to far more than a 100 years and so well past the persons lifetime

Here in Canada, he received ONE life sentence here for all charges."life in prison with no chance at parole for at least 25 years"
ok, so maybe it's just that i don't understand why they would even give someone like him the right to apply for parole.

the reasons behind the consecutive sentences really makes sense though.
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because the idea behind prison (in Canada) is rehabilitation not just imprisonment I guess. lofty ideals but I think it's a good thing
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Old Dec 13, 07
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yes i suppose.
unrealistic sometimes, like in this case.
and really is it worth the risk for people like him?
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Old Dec 13, 07
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He's someone who can never change - there is no point in rehabilitation for him
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Old Dec 13, 07
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this man should be given a medal, but still serve jail time.

they were drug addicted hookers with who knows how many STDs and such. They're better off gone. They were a drain on society (we couldn't make a profit off of them anyway, and I am damn confident they didn't file taxes).

but murder is definitely wrong. very, very wrong.

So, this post was voted down because 5 of you can't face the facts?

Please.:suspicious:

And FRA, unlike you, I don't need a group of people on a message board giving me praise for things I post here. Want me banned? Sure, make a poll. But I guarantee you will be gone before I am.

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Old Dec 13, 07
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shut up you skags.

closing this thread cause people dont know when to close their yaps.
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