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Old Feb 22, 08
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How the Man Keeps the Natives Down

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Many Western states have justified their domination of indigenous peoples through racist, illogical theories such as terra nullius, by which indigenous lands are considered "unoccupied" and "empty," their inhabitants deemed unable to manage their resources or conceive of property. Under such a policy, colonial and corporate elites, backed by a legal apparatus and scientific methods, are able to purchase and use land that does not belong to them.

Chief Arthur Manuel of the Neskolith band in the southern interior of British Columbia emphasized at the Indigenismo forum that his community's current problems with forestry companies stem from these colonial-era doctrines of discovery: "[These doctrines] said we indigenous peoples had no property interests." Native land thus "accrued" to Europeans, he said.

Arthur noted that this ethnocentric idea "is the essence of usurping and violating the rights of indigenous peoples" today. He cited the Canadian government's Comprehensive Claims Policy, which has as a "primary aim...to extinguish claims to territory" in exchange for limited benefits. Not only is this a "fundamental violation of...human rights," said Arthur, it is also absurd and impossible: "No one has the right and authority to extinguish our relationship to the land."
-- Cultural Survival

Yet the natives who are financially successful either use corporate methodology or employ the same practices as their neo-colonial rivals do today.

They are mainly urban, work all the jobs their rivals turn their noses up at, and are middle class.

Even so, this is a minute handful of successful natives who are so assimilated they are treated with derision by their cousins back on the rez.

In light of the Jennifer Johnnie case - where Jennifer was taken away from her mother as a child due to alcohol and never returned - removal from her family is a significant factor contributing to her substance abuse addiction and penchance to hook up with violent male peers to roll two white men and murder them for $20 just to buy more beer and pot.

At the root of native oppression by the Man is one arm of the provincial government: Ministry of Children and Family Services. With the majority of child dying in their care being either native or from underprivileged familes, in adoptive homes, IMHO this ministry is more concerned with justifying their high wages than actually caring for children. In addition, their adoptive webpage makes them more like a front for child trafficking than actually ensuring that children's rights are protected in adoptive homes.

However, at the root of this problem isn't just the current Liberal government. It is also the NDP's problem too, since they are the ones that closed down all the orphanages in 1972 and promoted fostering as being safer for kids.

Today, it is quite obvious that it's all a big scam.

Fostering in the worse cases are just another form of child trafficking, or at the least the beginning of years of child abuse and probable "mental illness" for children at risk.

BC owes those kids more than what they are doing now.

Otherwise, we will come to live in interesting times over the next 20 years.
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can you put that in RP? Received Pronunciation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old Feb 22, 08
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its called agenda 21.
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Old Feb 22, 08
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its called agenda 21.
If I Google "Agenda 21", then I will get the scoop on this?

United Nations Division for Sustainable Development

I take it this goes beyond neo-hippie permaculture and alternative rental with group meetings to discuss integration of members of a micro-housing co-op into sustainable development.

an example of this is at Alternatives

ask the owner about his housing co-operative "Quibble Green".

Last edited by jenai; Feb 23, 08 at 05:57 AM. Reason: I googled "agenda 21" and got the following...
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Old Feb 23, 08
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Can you learn how to use freaking Google? You can spend all that time looking up for the wikipedia article on Received Pronunciation but you can't even type "tldr" in the search bar and hit enter?

Maybe the cause of all your problems in life jenai is that you refuse to take responsibility for your own role in life. So far you've posted tons of articles accusing the government of basically destroying any social programme that's available to you or others around you. Do you understand how freaking lucky you are? If you were living in the states, you wouldn't get $600 a month, fuck you'd be lucky if you got a good $400 on welfare down there. And the Native issue isn't really an issue in the states because they've already all been killed, assimilated, or quarantined off in small pockets of desert that nobody wants.

Stop griping about the man and be the change you want to see in your life. All your posting about this is surmounting to whining, hence the TLDR responses, and generally the lack of decent discussion on these topics that you seem to bring up.

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Oh my God the last thing you want to do is try to solve "all" of Sage's problems.
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Old Feb 23, 08
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The white in me has suppressed the native in me for years with whiskey

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my favourite thing about being a half breed is that I can hate both races equally and nobody can call me a racist for it... ha ha ha, suckers
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what are your halves?
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actually, america's poor is well off, considering what the poor in 3rd world poor countries endure, especially those that are not democratic.
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Thanks for reinforcing my point?

What I'm saying is that you're better off here than just about anywhere else. So stop blaming the government for being dealt a bum deal, because the people in Canada really haven't.
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Old Feb 25, 08
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If I Google "Agenda 21", then I will get the scoop on this?

United Nations Division for Sustainable Development

I take it this goes beyond neo-hippie permaculture and alternative rental with group meetings to discuss integration of members of a micro-housing co-op into sustainable development.

an example of this is at Alternatives

ask the owner about his housing co-operative "Quibble Green".

basically what im getting at is its bigger then you and 1`22347523647956347529345603456872308457 12374512 screaming and crying hippies.


there comes a point in time where you need to stop crying out about all the injustice in the world that will never change,and just be an asshole and not give a shit.
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what are your halves?
on my mothers side I am part French,Scottish,Metis and Carrier. and I am German on my father's side


but I was only making a joke anyways ha ha...
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Dude.. that's not a half-breed. You're a fucking purebred pound puppy.
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people always ask me what my bground is. i can pass for almost any nationality.


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Old Feb 25, 08
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not this bullshit again.

it's time to start helping yourself.
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