school makes you dumb

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

That's a lot of syllables to say the word "aloof". I bet you feel smarter for saying that.

Ad hominem

If you were addressing a single semantical variable that would be one thing, but you seem to have picked and chosen all the semantic mistakes of the thread and combined them all into a single post.

Baseless assumption.

The onus to address these semantical variables is just as much yours as it is mine. So far you're still just pointing fingers.

God forbid you look at context, argument and debate those points, instead of just saying "you're wrong because you're arguing it wrong."

Unfortunately not only is this just another baseless accusation, it is also EXACTLY what you're doing, and you don't even realize it.

I have brought up 2 generalized personal examples as context, which you would rather ignore.

I realize in engaging your semantics argument is in and of itself semantics, but for crying out loud, have you ever formed a sensible argument in your life?

Could you be any more of a hypocrite?

You ask him to dissect the arguments and focus on the "bullet points". That would be nice, but that's not what you did.

Nor is it fallacious not to do so. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence...the onus was on wum seeing how he started the thread.

Bullet points would be paraphrasing what each person has said, not taking pot-shots at out-of-context quotes and small snippets of the conversation.

Again the onus isn't on me to set the example. Maybe if you asked me instead of just attempting to 1-up me in a battle of wits (which btw you will never win) I would have done so. So far the only thing I can tell you 1-up me on is having a retarded tattoo... but hey whatever floats your boat.

Pay more attention to what people are saying than how they say it.

Take your own damn advice.

Otherwise you're just looking for excuses to shoot opposing opinions down rather than actually discussing the opinions.

Again, this is exactly what you're doing.

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Just thought I'd highlight this part of your supposed "argument"

Showing off that you're basking in fallacy is just as funny as it is pathetic.

This above sentence of yours is the love child of an ad hominem and a red herring. You're lucky I'm even dignifying this with a response.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Ad hominem
Baseless assumption.

Ad hominem yes, baseless assumption no. Want me to quote all the pot-shots you took? We'll start here. There's two right away.

Unfortunately not only is this just another baseless accusation, it is also EXACTLY what you're doing, and you don't even realize it.

This is classy. Because of this:

Could you be any more of a hypocrite?

Okay, so either I'm not realizing it, or I'm a hypocrite. You really need to understand what the word complicit means. Yeah, I know I'm delving into the same level of semantics you are. Because frankly there's no way to fight semantics except with semantics. That's why it's considered a low form of debate. Because either you have to backpedal or strike right back on the same level. In either case, the argument is gone and nobody's bothering to discuss the points any more.

Nor is it fallacious not to do so. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence...the onus was on wum seeing how he started the thread.

You're half right. But the onus is on you to figure out what half is wrong.

Again the onus isn't on me to set the example. Maybe if you asked me instead of just attempting to 1-up me in a battle of wits (which btw you will never win) I would have done so. So far the only thing I can tell you 1-up me on is having a retarded tattoo... but hey whatever floats your boat.

Ad hominem

Take your own damn advice.

Right back at you, foil hat boy.

Again, this is exactly what you're doing.

I like you how choose to ignore the part where I admitted to doing just that (remember the ad hominem you gave me about being a hypocrite? Love the irony in that, btw)

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

When you come up with something like this:




You are obfuscating the original point and thus the fallacy of a red herring.

It doesn't matter even if you are right, as the context of the argument proposed can still be considered without the context of illusions of grandeur (think more over of the condition of having a knowledge filter).

Not understanding this shows you harbor resentment to wum and that behavior to you is more important rather then challenging him on an alleged faulty premise. In doing so, you display an attitude of defiant reductionism and suggestive thinking.

I wouldn't bother dignifying you with a response either.

Is this your default response when you cannot come up with a decent logically valid arguement of your own? You are not adding anything to the thread, I surmise it is because you don't have the mental faculties to actually put forth a logical argument, instead you just like to point out the flawed way in which others put forth their arguments.

please feel free to quote this and add the simple two word response you favour so greatly; Ad Hominen

shompbonical translation:
-*****h you stupid, quit trying to act smart and get back to smokin that rock...beeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyaaaatccch!!

[wishbone]

educated lols

edit:
ad hominem

[b0ld]

[djmarkpaul]

Ad hominem yes, baseless assumption yes.

fixed




I could waste a lot of time with you, but I'm not going to bother pointing out the same fallacies over and over...okay maybe just a couple more for emphasis, but this is getting very tiring. You can lead a horse to water...but in your case you're just an ass.

Yeah I don't care if I'm just throwing out an ad hominem at you now, it's all you're worth since the best you can do is cater to your circular reasoning.

It's insulting just to talk to you.

Okay, so either I'm not realizing it, or I'm a hypocrite.

Mixing 2 points and pretending they're the same thing shows your level of awareness.

You really need to understand what the word complicit means.

Nice try, but you're just grasping for straws, being a straw man and all.

Yeah, I know I'm delving into the same level of semantics you are.

Don't flatter yourself, I'm beyond your depth.

Because frankly there's no way to fight semantics except with semantics. That's why it's considered a low form of debate.

HAHAHA WHAT A MORON, YOU JUST NEGATED YOUR FIRST POST.

Have fun arguing with yourself, I'm done with you after this post.

You're half right. But the onus is on you to figure out what half is wrong.

I did figure it out, I just didn't point it out, and I don't have to, and I won't since it will go over your head like just about everything else I've written.

(remember the ad hominem you gave me about being a hypocrite? Love the irony in that, btw)

Pure comedy.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

You're lucky I'm even dignifying this with a response.

ahaha......now that was 24k.

i dont know which is more blinding....how gold that quote is or the arrogance of it

[djmarkpaul]

SEAN you're like seriously one of the most arrogant dumb mother fuckers I've had the displeasure of ever talking to on here, so I'm gonna divert a logical debate with you in favor of pointing out how dumb you are.

Is this your default response when you cannot come up with a decent logically valid arguement of your own?

Seeing how you're taking me out of context instead of addressing my first post in this thread, that question is a joke, but you're an even bigger joke for asking it.

You are not adding anything to the thread.

I'm watching you own yourself and so is everyone else that can see right through your circular bullshit. It's as pathetic as it is funny!

I surmise it is because you don't have the mental faculties to actually put forth a logical argument, instead you just like to point out the flawed way in which others put forth their arguments.

LOL totally what you do all the time every time just about!!!!

please feel free to quote this and add the simple two word response you favour so greatly; Ad Hominen

I don't need to, I'll just make it simple, I'm beyond your depth, don't bother with me, you're a weak minded pee brain.

shompbonical translation:
-*****h you stupid, quit trying to act smart and get back to smokin that rock...beeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyaaaatccch!!

That's right, this is all you've got. The day you realize how out of touch you are I might actually pity you...but I'm not counting on it, probably better if you just put me on your ignore list already.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

I could waste a lot of time with you, but I'm not going to bother pointing out the same fallacies over and over...okay maybe just a couple more for emphasis, but this is getting very tiring. You can lead a horse to water...but in your case you're just an ass.

ad hominem

Yeah I don't care if I'm just throwing out an ad hominem at you now, it's all you're worth since the best you can do is cater to your circular reasoning.

All you're creating is circular reasoning. The only reasoning to go to in semantics is circular. There's no arguing the points, just how the points are given. That is a neverending argument that never develops _ANYTHING_, it's just being a sidelong pundit.

It's insulting just to talk to you.

Ad hominem

I can keep doing this, dumbass. My point is you can too. It doesn't make the argument any more valid. Notice how nobody's bothered to argue the actual topic for the last couple of pages? Ever wonder why that seems to happen in just about every thread you post?

Mixing 2 points and pretending they're the same thing shows your level of awareness.

Failing to connect two related statements shows yours.

Nice try, but you're just grasping for straws, being a straw man and all.

Ad hominem

Don't flatter yourself, I'm beyond your depth.

Ad hominem

HAHAHA WHAT A MORON, YOU JUST NEGATED YOUR FIRST POST.

Yeah, but you started it. Like I said, the only way to fight semantics is with semantics. You started that chain in the first freaking post of the thread, thus ensuring that the only way ANYBODY could refute what you have to say is with more semantics. Thus my first, semantics-filled post.

Have fun arguing with yourself, I'm done with you after this post.

10:1 you're not.

I did figure it out, I just didn't point it out, and I don't have to, and I won't since it will go over your head like just about everything else I've written.

Translates to: I'm too lazy to explain this in any way that anybody other than me can comprehend.

For the record, that doesn't make you transient. It makes you a fool.

Pure comedy.

Glad I had to point it out to you. Shame you refuse to see it in yourself. But that's right. You're so much above us because nobody understands you.

Ever stop to think that the reason nobody understands you is because you don't make sense? No? Take a chance to consider it.

[djmarkpaul]

Ebbo don't even try, you're just out of your depth.

Here's something you can understand:



I'm done, you lose, get over it.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

Ebbo I won't even try, I'm just out of my depth.

fixed

I'm done, you lose, get over it.

Okay there Loose Change.

[azazel]

so who here actually watched the videos?

[azazel]

ebbo, maybe if you stopped arguing for sport and actually tried to further the discussion you might learn something for once.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by azazel

ebbo, maybe if you stopped arguing for sport and actually tried to further the discussion you might learn something for once.

Frankly you disgust me and I'm really not interested in learning anything from you.

But thanks for trying.

[yoko*]

Bravo,
You have all successfully displayed your keen abilities to break up posts into multiple quotes for over-analysis.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Frankly you disgust me and I'm really not interested in learning anything from you.

But thanks for trying.

what did I do?

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

SEAN you're like seriously one of the most arrogant dumb mother fuckers I've had the displeasure of ever talking to on here, so I'm gonna divert a logical debate with you in favor of pointing out how dumb you are.



Seeing how you're taking me out of context instead of addressing my first post in this thread, that question is a joke, but you're an even bigger joke for asking it.




I'm watching you own yourself and so is everyone else that can see right through your circular bullshit. It's as pathetic as it is funny!



LOL totally what you do all the time every time just about!!!!



I don't need to, I'll just make it simple, I'm beyond your depth, don't bother with me, you're a weak minded pee brain.



That's right, this is all you've got. The day you realize how out of touch you are I might actually pity you...but I'm not counting on it, probably better if you just put me on your ignore list already.

*****, shut the fuck up and go take your meds.


P.S. WHAT I SAY IS ONLY CIRCULAR IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE EASILY LED BY FOOLS.

oh i can't wait for the response from markpaul and wumzers on that comment.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

SEAN you're like seriously one of the most arrogant dumb mother fuckers I've had the displeasure of ever talking to on here, so I'm gonna divert a logical debate with you in favor of pointing out how dumb you are.



Seeing how you're taking me out of context instead of addressing my first post in this thread, that question is a joke, but you're an even bigger joke for asking it.




I'm watching you own yourself and so is everyone else that can see right through your circular bullshit. It's as pathetic as it is funny!



LOL totally what you do all the time every time just about!!!!



I don't need to, I'll just make it simple, I'm beyond your depth, don't bother with me, you're a weak minded pee brain.



That's right, this is all you've got. The day you realize how out of touch you are I might actually pity you...but I'm not counting on it, probably better if you just put me on your ignore list already.

yes i am a weak minded pea brain, and so is about 99% of the world which you disagree with. Its obvious that you and wum dont derive any
sense of pleasure/selfworth out of preaching to weak minded people like me and about 6 billion others. no you do it entirely out of you own openminded acceptance of the 'alternative' and your desire for the benefit of mankind. i mean you gotta be the most open minded person inorder to reject mountains of verifible information inorder to promote a narrow ideology, shit cheney and bush must be part of your crew too right?

shit *****h, i made way too many posts in this thread....i guess i just cant let go.

[azazel]

can't we all just get along?

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

SEAN you're like seriously one of the most arrogant dumb mother fuckers I've had the displeasure of ever talking to on here, so I'm gonna divert a logical debate with you in favor of pointing out how dumb you are.

If he is so dumb wouldn't it just be easier to destroy him quickly in a debate? This is kinda on the same level as the stupid kid saying everyone is too dumb to play with him.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

*****, shut the fuck up and go take your meds.


P.S. WHAT I SAY IS ONLY CIRCULAR IF YOU HAVE NO READING COMPREHENSION ARE ONE OF THOSE WHO ARE EASILY LED BY FOOLS.

oh i can't wait for the response from markpaul and wumzers on that comment.

my response: have you actually watched the videos?

[P.A.R.T.Y]

At more than $25,000, average student debt in Canada is too high. Students shouldn't have to mortgage their futures to get an education. Reduce tuition fees! Increase public funding for post-secondary education.
cfs-fcee.ca

Education has some valuable advantages. For example, I wouldn't have been allowed to a working visa in another country without my education. However, my average monthly payment on the interest on my student loan is staggering. I'd like to think it's worth it, but sometimes I just don't know.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

fixed



Okay there Loose Change.

Loose Change was a dope movie that helped wake up a lot of people to the fact that 9/11 was an inside job. Don't insult Mark by running this wicked movie through the gutter.

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

At more than $25,000, average student debt in Canada is too high. Students shouldn't have to mortgage their futures to get an education. Reduce tuition fees! Increase public funding for post-secondary education.
cfs-fcee.ca

Education has some valuable advantages. For example, I wouldn't have been allowed to a working visa in another country without my education. However, my average monthly payment on the interest on my student loan is staggering. I'd like to think it's worth it, but sometimes I just don't know.

fuck the CFS

We Want Out: SFSS Independence

thx for coming out