real talk..ladies i need your help

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by mithridate

boys can get their tubes tied! :)

man...
i cant wait for the day that birth control for guys comes out. its been years and years in the making
its a conspiracy that its not come into the market yet.!
and i think birth control is a majour contributing factor to some girls craziness/bitchiness/moodiness
its not fair.
:(

I like playing vagina like violins.
cant get preggers that way.

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by Avana

this thread makes me wish phrenetics dad had been wise and thrown it in his moms bum instead.

donkey punch ftw

you seem to talk about anal sex a lot, perhaps there is a void that needs filling.

Avana's void needs a dick in it, as it is the ultimate form of contraception.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by mithridate

boys can get their tubes tied! :)

No we can't, we can get it snipped but they don't tie it up. They only tie chicks' tubes.

man...
i cant wait for the day that birth control for guys comes out. its been years and years in the making
its a conspiracy that its not come into the market yet.!
and i think birth control is a majour contributing factor to some girls craziness/bitchiness/moodiness
its not fair.
:(

IANAScientist, but this is my guess:

Main problem I think is they need to test it to make sure there are no permanent effects.

With chicks it's a bit different because all you need to do is force the menstrual cycle - something your body does naturally anyways. Men don't have anything like that, you actually need to stop gamete production entirely. This doesn't happen with girls because all your gametes (eggs) are finished production at birth, and all that's left is to start dispensing them into the womb. For guys it's different because chemicals that would inhibit sperm production are going to either be less effective or serve the risk of not allowing it to start back up later. You need some natural way of cleaning out the chemical from your body, which can be very difficult. Also, there's a BIG ethical issue with testing these on humans when the risk is that they become chemically castrated.

That's a guess based on what I know about the human reproductive system, though. I haven't taken biology since 2002 though so I wouldn't take my word for it.

d

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

you seem to talk about anal sex a lot, perhaps there is a void that needs filling.

Avana's void needs a dick in it, as it is the ultimate form of contraception.

get better at life

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by Avana

d

get better at life

Im ready to hug when you decide to admit that I have lolz

[mithridate]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

No we can't, we can get it snipped but they don't tie it up. They only tie chicks' tubes.



IANAScientist, but this is my guess:

Main problem I think is they need to test it to make sure there are no permanent effects.

With chicks it's a bit different because all you need to do is force the menstrual cycle - something your body does naturally anyways. Men don't have anything like that, you actually need to stop gamete production entirely. This doesn't happen with girls because all your gametes (eggs) are finished production at birth, and all that's left is to start dispensing them into the womb. For guys it's different because chemicals that would inhibit sperm production are going to either be less effective or serve the risk of not allowing it to start back up later. You need some natural way of cleaning out the chemical from your body, which can be very difficult. Also, there's a BIG ethical issue with testing these on humans when the risk is that they become chemically castrated.

That's a guess based on what I know about the human reproductive system, though. I haven't taken biology since 2002 though so I wouldn't take my word for it.

couldnt they just,., idk. CLAMP your tubes shut? and then unclamp them when your ready to have a kid :)
i know with girls sometimes they can 'untie' us.

then..
boys should be more understanding when a girl goes psychotic on them if she is taking birth control.

even tho the physical affects are reversable and can clear out of our systems, just imagine what the long term affects on our mental health are? living your entire life being told that girls are crazy, and thats just the way it is. maybe its partially true, and maybe its partially because of birth control. maybe its a conspiracy against all women to eventually make us all crazy and thus unable to execute our world domination plan.!!!
but seriously..

and as for being unethical.. how did they test the female birth control?

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by mithridate

er...
so why dont you just use a condom??

Did you not read my statistic of how condoms have a 10-18% fail rate? Condoms are NOT an effective enough method of birth control!

[GSG9]

did a thought ever cross your mind to put the rubber on correctly?


haha one time i was drunk and somehow managed to put a hole in the side of the condom and when i put it on my wang went through the hole and neither of us noticed for like ten minutes.
it was a strange situation.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by impure

neg.
"you'll be stuck with a baby" makes it sound like cancer.
a child is a blessing no matter what, although sometimes it may be a blessing in disguise.

disagree. i love babies to death but more human beings is the last thing this world needs.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by GSG9

did a thought ever cross your mind to put the rubber on correctly?


haha one time i was drunk and somehow managed to put a hole in the side of the condom and when i put it on my wang went through the hole and neither of us noticed for like ten minutes.
it was a strange situation.

Did you just read wtf you wrote?
10 - 18% FAIL RATE because of shit like that.

I really don't think that's a "haha" situation. You both could have contracted STDs and she could have become pregnant.

I still think that women who are sexually active should be responsible and take birth control, unless of course there's a medical reason why they can't. It drives me absolutely crazy to hear "but last time I was on birth control I gained almost ten pounds". I guess an unplanned pregnancy is better?

[Erin]

Originally Posted by galaxie

I still think that women who are sexually active should be responsible and take birth control, unless of course there's a medical reason why they can't. It drives me absolutely crazy to hear "but last time I was on birth control I gained almost ten pounds". I guess an unplanned pregnancy is better?

Please Natalie!! You know I would way rather have an unplanned pregnancy then gain 10 pounds!!! Priorities right?

[impure]

Originally Posted by galaxie

I still think that women who are sexually active should be responsible and take birth control, unless of course there's a medical reason why they can't.

some of girls have good reasons, such as the effect of brith control on your bone density. an IUD is one form of birth control that has the same success rate as the pill and yet doesn't have any of the physical side effects that hormones have on your body.

Originally Posted by galaxie

It drives me absolutely crazy to hear "but last time I was on birth control I gained almost ten pounds". I guess an unplanned pregnancy is better?

next time you should remind them how much potential weight is gained during a pregnancy.

those 10 lbs might matter when they contract aids.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by impure

some of girls have good reasons, such as the effect of brith control on your bone density. an IUD is one form of birth control that has the same success rate as the pill and yet doesn't have any of the physical side effects that hormones have on your body.

what I meant by "take birth control" was use a form of contraception that is actually effective - ie. the pill, shot, patch, IUD, etc.. They are all pretty much 99.9 or 99.8 percent effective when used properly.

[impure]

Originally Posted by mithridate

couldnt they just,., idk. CLAMP your tubes shut? and then unclamp them when your ready to have a kid :)
i know with girls sometimes they can 'untie' us.

according to my doctor they can reverse a vasectomy in most cases.
no clamps here please!

Originally Posted by mithridate

then..
boys should be more understanding when a girl goes psychotic on them if she is taking birth control.

this should be a mandatory course in school.

Originally Posted by mithridate

even tho the physical affects are reversable and can clear out of our systems, just imagine what the long term affects on our mental health are? living your entire life being told that girls are crazy, and thats just the way it is. maybe its partially true, and maybe its partially because of birth control. maybe its a conspiracy against all women to eventually make us all crazy and thus unable to execute our world domination plan.!!!
but seriously..

cause knowledge is power!

Birth Control Risks and Complications

The potential link between oral contraceptives and breast cancer is not yet understood, and further research is required in order to determine this connection. However, there are some risks and long-term complications associated with the use of hormonal birth control methods. These include the following birth control risks:

• Eye problems or vision impairment
• Gallbladder disease and gallstones
• Embolism
• Resistance to Insulin
• Immune system suppression
• Heart attack
• Bone density loss
• Stroke
• Breast tumors and liver tumors
• Ectopic Pregnancies
• Links with certain cancers such as cervical cancer
• Blood clots in legs, lungs, heart and brain

Originally Posted by mithridate

and as for being unethical.. how did they test the female birth control?

do you understand what dave said, exactly?

[Erin]

Originally Posted by impure

Birth Control Risks and Complications

The potential link between oral contraceptives and breast cancer is not yet understood, and further research is required in order to determine this connection. However, there are some risks and long-term complications associated with the use of hormonal birth control methods. These include the following birth control risks:

• Eye problems or vision impairment
• Gallbladder disease and gallstones
• Embolism
• Resistance to Insulin
• Immune system suppression
• Heart attack
• Bone density loss
• Stroke
• Breast tumors and liver tumors
• Ectopic Pregnancies
• Links with certain cancers such as cervical cancer
• Blood clots in legs, lungs, heart and brain

This is kinda scary...

[impure]

Originally Posted by galaxie

what I meant by "take birth control" was use a form of contraception that is actually effective - ie. the pill, shot, patch, IUD, etc.. They are all pretty much 99.9 or 99.8 percent effective when used properly.

alright, the girl who for a physical/medical reason who can't use at least one of the many various and safe forms of birth control out there is some kinda fucked up.
i would vote that one out of the gene pool, no ovaries for you!


the biggest problem i think is that in highschool we're given a huge run down on the pill and how great it is, and then they hand us a sample or tell us to get a sample from our doctor. don't think for a second that the pharmaceutical companies aren't pushing for that.

i remember my teacher mentioning "alternative" forms of birth control such as a diaphram but she made it seem like it was terribly inconvenient and not an option and that we should take the pills provided.

if we had a good way to teach girls ALL their options and why each one is different and then help them decide what they want and why, then maybe we may not be seeing so many teen pregnancies.

[impure]

Originally Posted by Erin

This is kinda scary...

can i say it again?
IUD FTW


Advantages

• very effective
• neither partner can feel an IUD during sex
• the woman controls this method of birth control
• can remain in place for many years

Disadvantages

• cost
• does not protect against sexually transmitted infections
• unpredictable bleeding and other side effects particularly in the first few months
• increased risk of pelvic infection mainly associated with insertion
• increased risk of benign ovarian cysts
• may be difficult to insert in some women
• rarely an IUD may puncture the wall of the uterus

i will say the first few months are hellish, after 14 days i was looking for blood donors, but 2 years later i'm soooooooo glad i toughed it out.
there is NO guess work involved, no more "oh shit i forgot to take a pill, i hope i'm not pregnant"

and no osteoperosis!

[Carrie]

I was put on birth control pills because my periods were painful, not because I was having sex.

Also went to a Catholic highschool where we didn't have sex ed.

[impure]

Originally Posted by Carrie

I was put on birth control pills because my periods were painful, not because I was having sex.

did it help?

Originally Posted by Carrie

Also went to a Catholic highschool where we didn't have sex ed.

sorry about your luck.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Carrie

I was put on birth control pills because my periods were painful, not because I was having sex.

Also went to a Catholic highschool where we didn't have sex ed.

Could be worse. I shit you not my Junior high showed us how to put on condoms on a wooden penis (don't worry it was sanded down so no splinters).

It looked like it was from the 70's, making me cringe at the idea of 30 years of awkward kids like me fumbling to put condoms on this huge ass wooden penis.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by impure

can i say it again?
IUD FTW

Thanks. I'm not really into telling FNK what kind of BC I use so I'm going to stop you right there. :)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Did you not read my statistic of how condoms have a 10-18% fail rate? Condoms are NOT an effective enough method of birth control!

True, but most of the time when condoms fail it's due to human error. Mostly due to negligence (IE people who don't know how to properly put on a condom, improper sizing, etc.)

No method is 100%. Even vasectomies and tube-tying aren't. it's all just a matter of risk and reducing said risk. But nothing is ever guaranteed.

Originally Posted by Erin

Thanks. I'm not really into telling FNK what kind of BC I use so I'm going to stop you right there. :)

am i the only one that thinks unsolicited advice for bc on the net is a bit creepy. my doc tells me what is good for him, since he has the 8 billion years of school to back him up, i trust what he says.

[Erin]

Originally Posted by Avana

am i the only one that thinks unsolicited advice for bc on the net is a bit creepy. my doc tells me what is good for him, since he has the 8 billion years of school to back him up, i trust what he says.

And that is why I stopped her right there. :)

[Carrie]

Originally Posted by impure

did it help?

yes

Originally Posted by impure

sorry about your luck.

don't be sorry, I figured it all out by myself.