Echelon, Secret Societies, Particle Accelerators, etc.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it.
It's all out in the open! Next time you hear people tell you that your phone calls and e-mails are not being read. The next time you say that the "Illuminati," is just a boring group of old men, and the next time you say that the government and scientists aren't coming dangerously close to blowing up the planet, then research it.







Not that you have anything to fear.

[mikey]

yawn.....

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Originally Posted by mikey

yawn.....

You didn't research. That's negative karma.

[Phrenetic]

lol he didnt watch your 3 videos and you negged him?

he was yawning because its been said before again and again, stop trying to wake people up. the majority knows already

[mikey]

Shits fuckin old news... Do you honestly think you know something nobody else does.

And your relying on information from youtube, your a fucking tool.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Actually, I was researching Echelon before you tube came about. Echelon's website is a big tip-off. http://www.echelon.com/
They make it seem that their main concern is saving energy, but in reality they're an NSA spy network (Check out the wording and symbols on the site)
I know that almost everyone has woken up to the reality that secret societies exist. Still, the 1 hour history channel special reveals some interesting revelations. I likes David Icke's comments on this topic, but I find a lot of his comments on the "reptilian humanoids," paranoid grandstanding. He's re-instates fiction novels and passes it as fact and causes gullible people distress.
Overall, take it as it comes. I've looked into this info from quite a few angles. I can see the propaganda and disseminate most of the bullshit.

[anewlife]

*yawns*

[rawb]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

I likes David Icke's comments on this topic...

STOPPED READING THERE

[Phrenetic]

stop conforming to false rebellion you Michael Moore fanboy

[Revolver]

the vids are great.

[decypher]

lol echlelon, i was downloading txt files on that topic when my modem was 14.4kbps.

[ebbomega]

Tinfoil hat firmly strapped on.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Overall, take it as it comes. I've looked into this info from quite a few angles. I can see the propaganda and disseminate most of the bullshit.

Apparently you can't. I've been forced to read some of David Icke's "work" before.

Keep in mind David Icke is notorius for:

-Using white supremacist books as his sources of information.

-Being a holocaust denier

-Uses spiritual mediums as a big part of his research

-Claiming the royal family is in fact shape shifters.

-Claimed to be the son of god on the BBC1

- God, there's so many more problems.

His books lack facts and he has trouble indentifying reality. Sure some of his ideas might make sense (the non weird ones) but citing an author who has been unable to know the difference between reality and fantasy is a terrible idea.

Here's a revolutionary test designed to reshape your reality tunnel: get a private journal, and then read a David Icke book. Note your reactive feelings and thoughts. Then read Michael Shermer's 'Why People Believe Weird Things' (WH Freemason & Co, 1998) and Carl Sagan's 'Demon Haunted World (Ballantine Books, 1997). Note your reactive feelings and thoughts. The read an Icke book again. Note any perceptual changes and review your notes. Has your world subsequently become an awe-inspiring, more beautiful place?

PS- Should I give you negative karma for not doing your research?

BONUS: Here's an article from his visit in Canada in 2001. Take a read over the craziness:
Beset by lizards | Extracts | guardian.co.uk Books

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Yes, he's completely unoriginal and his comments read like a fiction novel. However, what he mentions in the secret societies video is pretty much spot on. He's restating what people like Larry Burkett mention in books like "The Illuminati."
The point is not what some half wit ex-tv presenter says, it's what you hear, see and feel that really makes a difference.

[rawb]

YOU ARE LIKE THE DUMBEST KID
I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT USING COMMON SENSE AND REASON TO FIGURE OUT THESE HUGE GLOBAL PLOTS AND THEN YOU GO BY THE SKETCHIEST TURNTABLE OFF SOMEONE YOU NEVER MET AND ACT SURPRISED WHEN ITS BROKEN l

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Yes, he's completely unoriginal and his comments read like a fiction novel. However, what he mentions in the secret societies video is pretty much spot on. He's restating what people like Larry Burkett mention in books like "The Illuminati."
The point is not what some half wit ex-tv presenter says, it's what you hear, see and feel that really makes a difference.

I hear, see and feel a lot of reaching theories with no real basis other than "This is how it could be". It's less credible than Intelligent Design.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

Originally Posted by rawb

YOU ARE LIKE THE DUMBEST KID
I MEAN YOU TALK ABOUT USING COMMON SENSE AND REASON TO FIGURE OUT THESE HUGE GLOBAL PLOTS AND THEN YOU GO BY THE SKETCHIEST TURNTABLE OFF SOMEONE YOU NEVER MET AND ACT SURPRISED WHEN ITS BROKEN l

Thanks for introducing immaterial bullshit to the topic rawb. Yes, I recently purchased a Technic's 1200 MK2 with working Stanton 680HP stylus and Technics headshell. Cost- $75 The problem is that the right channel is not working. I think it's a minor problem that can be fixed.

Why are you diverting from the topic? Afraid to accept the truth?

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Afraid to accept the truth?

And this attitude is exactly why I discredit most conspiracy theorists.

Follow those who SEEK truth, be wary of those who claim to have found it.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

You didn't research. That's negative karma.

I dont call watching youtube videos with dubious evidence and no supporting citations research.

echelon is not a secret, it hasn't been since before the end of the cold war.

secret societies big whoop, they have nothing on the very non-secret neo-conservative think tanks that basically wrote the blueprint for the iraq war.

As for particle accelerators im sure all the worlds best physists are wrong and a group of nut balls on the internet are right.

youtube is a great source for stupid videos, research, i dunno big homie try reading a book.

[ebbomega]

I can't believe this kid is all "OPEN YOUR EYES! SEE THE TRUTH!" but then in the same breath completely ignores the bias of the people the information they use is coming from.

Believing in something just because it's not mainstream thought is every bit as dangerous as believing it because it is.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

Yes, he's completely unoriginal and his comments read like a fiction novel. However, what he mentions in the secret societies video is pretty much spot on. He's restating what people like Larry Burkett mention in books like "The Illuminati."
The point is not what some half wit ex-tv presenter says, it's what you hear, see and feel that really makes a difference.

Uh, I hate to rain on your parade, but "The Illuminati" written by Larry Burkett is considered by everyone (author included) as a work of fiction...

And Larry Burkett's claim to fame other then writing financial help books that suggest only investing from the evangelical christian point of view/praying that your investments have a large return.

Seriously, if you are going to knock someone for not doing research, make sure you do the same.

Some of us are able to understand that not everything that is published/on youtube isn't true.

Oh, and as for the particle acceletator video, I've mentioned this a few times and I don't feel like writing it out again so here's a previous post I made:

Why does this keep coming up on the internet. The chances of this happening are zero.

Assuming black holes exist (Never been proven, only a theory still, however a very widely accepted theory) A really big reason would be that the energy required to form a black hole doesn't exist on Earth.

Yes in theory, if black holes existed, and for some reason there was enough energy to create one on earth, and this amount of power could pass through the system without destroying it, and the calculations were way off (creating a black hole would not be necessarily a matter of forgetting to carry a two), there is a theoretical chance that a black hole may form.

Try using research that isn't a powerpoint presentation with a creepy narrator for once.

[lildonkey]

myyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy milkshake brings all the boys to the yard

and they're like, it's better then yourrrrrrrrrrrsssss

damn right its better then yourrrrrrrrrrrrsssss

i can teach you, but i have to take something of monetary value

[Ragga_Wh0re]

holy fuck you bleeding heart hippy. go protest at the VAG with all the other hippies,better yet why dont you all go commit mass suicide?The that way when the inevitable happens youll already be D.E.D and not subjected to the l337s nefarious plans of world dominiation,assimilation,and genocide.

Hi Im all knowing and 10x better then you because i read some sensational garbage by david icke and youtubed some vids.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

holy fuck you bleeding heart hippy. go protest at the VAG with all the other hippies,better yet why dont you all go commit mass suicide?The that way when the inevitable happens youll already be D.E.D and not subjected to the l337s nefarious plans of world dominiation,assimilation,and genocide.

Hi Im all knowing and 10x better then you because i read some sensational garbage by david icke and youtubed some vids.

You should probably leave mocking this thread to the rest of us.

Why don't you just hang in the back...

[crookedking]

there was a parade on lonsdale yesterday and i saw something that i thought was pretty funny when i was trying to cut across it...freemasons were driving around with banners hanging from their cars. lol they were flanked by shriners on those little bikes of theirs.