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May 14, 04
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I was reading about the beheading I was hoping that all it would be was maybe a quick slice...
after reading that article I just felt sick for the next 20 minutes... I've been contemplating downloading it for the past 24 hours.... and I can't put myself to do it.... 
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who actually knows when that video was actually released! i think its pretty convenient of the US to release that at a time when ther are accused of all the iraqi prisoner abuse.. ther jus tryin to take the spot light off themselves.
thats my opinion ne ways
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By watching this Video, you all are doing ur part in furfilling the reasons for why this video being made. Once again they have used our technology against us, by having there revenge played over and over on millions of computer screens world wide.. but does it even sink in when u guys watch it? most have seen so much crap like that on videos, that it doesen't even phase them anymore.
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That's preeeetty much what they've done with Afghanistan...
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there's a timeline.
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oh yea, he was a supporter of this war, not some save the world hippy, and we all know this war has been a sham. i don't see you gettin all outraged at the innocent 10 000 plus dead iraqis.
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Anyways, let's say he actually WAS an aspiring profiteer. From what we know, he went to Iraq with the intent of building communication towers. Does this act warrant him being beheaded in such a cruel fashion? I don't see how communication towers can be threatening, nor do I see how they come at the expense of others. Telecom services are a benefit to us all. I'd really like to see you justify your argument in front of this poor guy's family, saying "good riddance" to his alleged profiteering. As for your comment about how it should be the Iraqis doing the work, not foreign opportunists doing the work... I must answer with some economic theory. Where would the money come from? I don't see many Iraqis with the opportunity of taking out loans from the bank to finance any sort of investment projects. Gee... so where would the money come from? Could it be Nick Berg? Who knows what his personal wealth is? Not me, but I think it's plausible that he has the ability to finance his project via loans. And who would be constructing the actual towers? Why... could it possibly be the Iraqi locals? Yes it would! These Iraqi locals will get paid for their labor by an American investor such as Nick Berg. Now we have Iraqi locals with some more money in their pockets, resulting in these locals spending their newfound money within the Iraqi economy, i.e. raising the income of other Iraqis. Foreign "opportunists" are not always a bad thing. Regarding your comment about how this war is a sham and how he was a supporter of it... I won't get into a political argument because that would take too long. There are reasons to support and oppose this war. However, you're right about how I should be outraged by the deaths of innocent Iraqis.... but why is it wrong to be outraged by the death of Nick Berg, especially in such a grisly fashion? Are you saying that you support what those terrorists did to him? I hope you're not. Just take a step back and look at this situation as a human being, not as a politician. What we saw was five men sawing off the head of one man. Even with the Iraqi prisoners abuse scandal, can you honestly justify his beheading to me or this guy's family? Was this guy guilty of any crimes?? What if it was someone close to you, like a friend or family member? I'm sure your friends and relatives have differing beliefs from you, but that doesn't stop you from loving them right? If five psychos sawed off the head of one of your friends or family members, are you gonna say, "Good riddance, it's his fault that he supported the war." I think not.
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thats what happens in war though, thinkin about it.
that video is unbelievably fucked up, but dont think of it JUST that way..cause i mean..there was something about an american tank driver...that pretty much saw a dead iraq body on the side of the road, now he went out of HIS way, to run over the dead body, instead of leaving it alone, ran it the fuck over, and took pictures and sent them around. war is fucked.simple as that.mean people are everywhere, whether it be the al queda or the fuckin americans. theres always 2 sides.
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theres always 2 sides but a bunch of dudes holding down a handcuffed man while they cutt his fucking head off with a buck knife is a little much.
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the fact that he supported this war means just that. he supported it, he WANTED IT. i don't ever want war. comprende? then he went over to a fuckin WARZONE and proceeded to travel around it without adequant security in an area known to be hostile to americans. this guy was held by the military police in iraq, questioned and supposed illegally detained. then he was basically told he had to leave within a week or so. um, he didn't deserve to die, but he was pretty fucking stupid and that caused his death.
so how is it good for the iraqi's that we hire all these americans to do jobs in a country where they have people ready to work? i thought the u.s. was the liberator, last time i checked they got 87bill to help iraq, so i doubt the iraqi's or nick berg need to 'invest' to get shit going. his dad owns a telecommunications company, you don't think being at ground level would make them a pretty penny? the type of people/company working over there isn't some good will red cross action buddy, it's HALLIBURTON, maybe you've heard of these fucking war mongers. if he wanted to help so much, there's tons of stuff he can do to help that doesn't involve being at ground zero. now i may have been a little harsh with my inital wording, but what am i supposed to say? it's called personal responsibility, he's only getting all this exposure because he was decapitated. had he been simply shot he'd just be another statistic, and no one would even remember hearing his name. but since he was so brutually murdered it's a big deal. well it is not a big deal, people die, horribly and often. especially in a war zone. this was his fault. it's all about personal responsibility. he's not the first "contractor/civilian" kidnapped and killed, and he won't be the last. this is a warzone, with the u.s. army in it, and it's still fucking crazy. think about that. who in their right mind would want to be there? and if you go you sure as hell accept the risks that come with going to a place so unstable.
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Look buddy... I am not arguing with you about the politics behind this war... it's gonna take too long and I'm sure we will just agree and disagree about a lot of things. You made all valid points. I am merely saying that you cannot justify his beheading because he was "stupid" or "war is like that." Yes, why would he want to be in Iraq when it is so hazardous to be an American in that area? Seems stupid to people like us.
Awww... war is like that, and he won't be the last civilian/contractor to die. Yes, you're right about that, but to downplay his cruel death is not right. Sure, his death is getting lots of attention because of the way it happened. But what do you expect? All people can do is WONDER what kind of crazy shit is going on over there while we live comfortably over here. Yes, the way other people are dying in Iraq is equally important. But when you say "good riddance" then I will take exception. All I'm saying is, why justify his death? Can't you just step back and be compassionate? Can't you just acknowledge that the way he died was cruel? Just because his death happened under a certain context, i.e. war in Iraq, why justify it? What's the point? What's the point of making a wise crack, saying he deserved it because he was stupid? Nobody deserves to die like that.... not you, me, or any person born into this world....
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That video is messed.
I watched it with the sound off, because there were other people around and I didn't particularly want to share the experience. After seeing what I saw, I'm scared to watch it with the sound on. Or watch it again period. But I probably will. God we're all such freaks.
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