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Old Dec 29, 04
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IMO, Zionism is racism.

However, people should be able to have any belief they want and to share it on this board if you ask me (as long as they don't feel physical violence or censorship is an approachable avenue). Why is censorship noted as a viable alternative, may you entertain this question myles?

Not only does it write off any closure, but it discourages independant thought.

Oh I know, let's have a board where everyone agrees with each other, and if heaven forbid, someone challanges the status quo, let's shun them instead of asking them why they feel that way.

I know it may get a bit heated here but the only name calling I saw came from a few people disagreeing with Lou in the form of seemingly witty oneliners that just wrote off her spiel as "you're wrong, this is why you are dumb, I am right, end of story".

That to me is truly what is the problem with this thread, not Lou's lengthy spiel.

Go on, disagree with her, I infact do aswell, but let's try and keep it civil people, then there is no need to censor. If you want this girl to be censored, maybe you fear to revise your opinion on said matters, the girl is talking about an important global issue, good for her for atleast trying.

The majority of people that I've seen just write her off in a few one liners are commonly the ones that fill this board up with dribble and small talk trying to recieve as much recognition to their online hommies. Get some backbone folks, are you afraid of intellectual debate?
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what the hell. for making a good point?
Oh yah, brilliant. The point being that all arabs are uncaring, selfish, demonic bastards for not sending aid, therefore whatever Israel does to "defend" themselves against their villainous rivals is justified.

That's a good point if I've ever seen one. No logical leaps involved at all.

No wait, what it really was was the weak ass attempt of a racist to strengthen her anti-palestinian viewpoint. Given that the Palestinians she's spent this entire thread slagging are in no financial position to contribute substantial aid to anyone.. well I'll let you rethink the quality of her "point" on your own.

For the record, I don't actually endorse closing anyone's account. I was just making a glib joke about how thouroughly disgusted I am by her attitude. I'm a firm believer in the school of thought that people should be given enough rope to hang themselves. Which lou belle is doing a fantastic job of.
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Never thought I'd be linking to the fucking Christian Science Monitor, but...

http://csmonitor.com/2004/0914/p01s04-wome.html

"In response to suicide bombings, Israel closed its borders to Palestinian workers, reoccupied cities it had turned over to the PA, and clamped down on Palestinian travel between cities. The latter, say people whose income was dependent on the tourism industry, is the primary reason why Jericho's economy is now virtually bust."

Can't have come up with a paragraph, on my own, that does a better job of circling around and biting Lou Belle's "good point" in the ass.
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Oh yah, brilliant. The point being that all arabs are uncaring, selfish, demonic bastards for not sending aid, therefore whatever Israel does to "defend" themselves against their villainous rivals is justified.

That's a good point if I've ever seen one. No logical leaps involved at all.

No wait, what it really was was the weak ass attempt of a racist to strengthen her anti-palestinian viewpoint. Given that the Palestinians she's spent this entire thread slagging are in no financial position to contribute substantial aid to anyone.. well I'll let you rethink the quality of her "point" on your own.

For the record, I don't actually endorse closing anyone's account. I was just making a glib joke about how thouroughly disgusted I am by her attitude. I'm a firm believer in the school of thought that people should be given enough rope to hang themselves. Which lou belle is doing a fantastic job of.
Of all the people on FNK who claim to know a thing or two, you probably have the worst reading comprehension. “Uncaring” and “demonic bastards” are only terms that can be attributed to you. For the rest of your post to make any sense one requires quite an imagination.

Instead of offering worthless Marxist rhetoric like “racism” or any other “isms” that I’m sure you’ve memorized, why don’t you try arguing the facts for once? Can you think of a single country where a sizeable Muslim population exists where it does not try to either terrorize the host society or convert it?

Look at how France has been forced to implement Sharia type laws, and still it doesn’t seem enough appeasement to stop if from becoming the first Islamic State in Europe.

Look at the situation in the Netherlands or Britain! New “anti-hate laws” are nothing more than gag orders that put barbaric rituals like genital mutilation beyond criticism because it might incite “religious or racial hatred.”


Even though I have other things to say about Zionism (which is for another time), Lou Belle is justified in her view of the implacability of Arab Muslims.

Moronically parroting words like “tolerance” (at one's own peril) does not negate the fact that the surrounding Arab countries have resolutely refused, since the 1948 War of Independence, to take on 650,000 Palestinian Arab refugees but instead fan the flames of insurrection.

It does not negate the fact that Muslims have put a $30,000 bounty on several prominent Danish Jews.

It does not negate the fact that Theo Van Gogh was nearly decapitated for his ‘affront’ to Islam, and the subsequent Dutch politicians who promised to crack down on radical Islam were also threatened with their lives.

If you want to offer commentary, then please say something that means something. If you’re like another poster here who insists on his ‘right’ to be heard regardless of comprehension, because it’s a public board, then maybe I’m wasting my time.

At any rate, I’m the one “disgusted” by your attitude that only tears down but brings nothing useful to the table.

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Oh yah, brilliant. The point being that all arabs are uncaring, selfish, demonic bastards for not sending aid, therefore whatever Israel does to "defend" themselves against their villainous rivals is justified.
You are one twisted biatch. Don't quote me on shit that I NEVER said. I never even came close to your emmy award winning gisgrace of a speech. Politically, you make no sense. It is your head that created such insults towards these people. Reasons for my beliefs go way beyond race and to say that I am a racist is just your demented way of going to bed having made your day appear to be productive.

You use quotations around DEFEND, like as though you think Israel is on the offensive. Um....sorry....wrong...look at the facts and put your soother back in your mouth:P


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No wait, what it really was was the weak ass attempt of a racist to strengthen her anti-palestinian viewpoint. Given that the Palestinians she's spent this entire thread slagging are in no financial position to contribute substantial aid to anyone.. well I'll let you rethink the quality of her "point" on your own.
Are in no financial position to contribute substantial aid....hmm. I never said substantial. And for some reason, you believe that they are in no position to help anyone. Oil, girl. Oil is worth something. Palaces filled with gold are worth something too. People, people can search for bodies, help in the clean-up and work in construction. Finances have nothing to do with aid when you have oil to fly your planes and men willing to volunteer. Now, since my post is actually about Israel, I might have to mention that they sent plane-loads of people there volunteering in the process of disaster relief and there financial situation is in ruins.
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Never thought I'd be linking to the fucking Christian Science Monitor, but...

http://csmonitor.com/2004/0914/p01s04-wome.html

"In response to suicide bombings, Israel closed its borders to Palestinian workers, reoccupied cities it had turned over to the PA, and clamped down on Palestinian travel between cities. The latter, say people whose income was dependent on the tourism industry, is the primary reason why Jericho's economy is now virtually bust."

Can't have come up with a paragraph, on my own, that does a better job of circling around and biting Lou Belle's "good point" in the ass.
Good one grapes. Yes those are the facts. But in being a little more than a bookmark in history, lets move on to the present day, where we have seen suicide-bombings go from weekly to rarely. Where Israelis can finally go to work without fear of being killed. Finally the country can get to work on fixing the financial problems created by the mass killings and start on their own path to being the peaceful nation they intended to be. You also failed to note in your pointless quote that Israel gave the Palestinians what they wanted all along, THEIR OWN LAND. I have to laugh when you blame the jews for "Jericho's economy now being virtually busted". DO YOU KNOW WHAT CONSTANT RANDOM CIVILIAN BOMBINGS DO TO YOUR TOURISM INDUSTRY??! YOU FUCKING STUPID MARK!! The loss of jobs is on both sides. Don't post back unless you are in need of a mentor.

my appologies, but this FRUIT drives me nuts and wastes my expensive time.
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Moronically parroting words like “tolerance” (at one's own peril) does not negate the fact that the surrounding Arab countries have resolutely refused, since the 1948 War of Independence, to take on 650,000 Palestinian Arab refugees but instead fan the flames of insurrection.

that is the key difference between Israel and the Arab world.

when Israel was formed 850,000 Jews got kicked out of the surrounding Arab countries...

bout the same amount as the Arab Palestinians displaced...

but...

1/3 of the indigenous, Muslim population left to join the armies and fight the Jews, 1/3 left just to get out of the way for the Arab armies to "run the Jews into the sea" as quoted... and a 1/3 stayed.

those that stayed are now Israeli citizens, that Vote!

20% of the Israeli kenesit (Parliament) are Arabs. tell me one Muslim country that has 5% of its government lawmakers Jewish... actually find me one Jew who is in Arab gov.

the Palestinians are now in a sad state, but it is more the doing of the Arab countries. look at that chart...

http://www.standwithus.com/campus/pd...bcountries.pdf

Sharron is the butcher of beruit... right... well kinda.
he did not kill anyone in that incident, nor did he order anyone killed... nor did his troops kill anyone. that is why he was charged and reprimanded.

because he did not put his troops into action, he did nothing to stop the Lebanon militias from slaughtering the Palestinians in the camps he was over seeing.

and he was reprimanded for it he lost his post in the army...

that would never happen if this was a Muslim army and a general did nothing to stop the slaughtering of Jews. in fact he would prob get a medal...

but this is digressing... my point is that all of the biggest mass killings of Palestinians has come from Arab countries.

in Jordan the army wiped out 10,000 Palestinian refugees cause they were a real problem on their economy and the crime rate was way up. add that to the Lebanon incident and you have a 1/2 dozen times more Palestinians killed by Arabs then the IDF or even Jews for that matter in the infata .


http://www.bicom.org.uk/cgi-local/re...earch.pl?id=94

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$30,000 bounty on several prominent Danish Jews.

It does not negate the fact that Theo Van Gogh was nearly decapitated for his ‘affront’ to Islam, and the subsequent Dutch politicians who promised to crack down on radical Islam were also threatened with their lives.
this is a huge issue.
it even touches abortion in mother Russia.

in Russia there was talk of changing abortion laws for native Russians, to stop them from terminating due to population growth charts. the Muslim population is growing so fast and the Russian population is stalling out...

and as for the censorship issue... well at least here it is something we can debate.

take a look at the next linked chart.

http://www.standwithus.com/campus/pd.../speakmind.pdf
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last link is busted, but there's no doubt they breed like rabbits. just look at how the demographics have changed in France.
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How many planes of rescuers have the Arab Islamic countries sent in to help the Tsunami aftermath??? LOL You are so naive!
LOL !! More than Israel!

Kuwait Pledged aid supplies worth $2 million, sent $100,000 immediate aid.
Qatar $25 million.
Saudi Arabia $30 million aid package.
United Arab Emirates $20 million.
Egyptian Red Crescent Society sending a plane with 500,000 Egyptian pounds ($81,000) worth of medicine and other aid as initial step.
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Israel Sent one medical team to Sri Lanka, one to Thailand.




Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6767190/
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LOL !! More than Israel!

Kuwait Pledged aid supplies worth $2 million, sent $100,000 immediate aid.
Qatar $25 million.
Saudi Arabia $30 million aid package.
United Arab Emirates $20 million.
Egyptian Red Crescent Society sending a plane with 500,000 Egyptian pounds ($81,000) worth of medicine and other aid as initial step.
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Israel Sent one medical team to Sri Lanka, one to Thailand.




Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6767190/
that is all true, but look at the GNP for those countries...
the USA so far has given the most money, but it has been condemed for giving less then 1% of it's gnp... take into acount that the money given, compared to what they can afford, countries like the ones listed are even less then the usa...

not to mention...

these are all muslim heavy populations...

not too many jews there... there is no self interest in the israeli's sending help. and israel offered more help, but was turned down... they did not want it. "...Israel's army had planned to send staff to set up field hospitals, including internal medicine and paediatric clinics..."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4130599.stm

and the red cresent is the same as the red cross... that is not from egypt, but from the people.

Israel has sent aid to countries that recognise it's right to exist, the ones it has diplomatic relations with.
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last link is busted, but there's no doubt they breed like rabbits. just look at how the demographics have changed in France.
I dunno they just worked for me... ???
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einstein was a zionist, however his research also lead to the development of the atomic bomb..
one thing i learned from thinking about atom bombs; and mushroom clouds, is that mushrooms make up reality, at a subatomic level...

so, i suggest eating some chubb
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Yeah....you all really don't know much about the Israeli Palestinian fiasco...
But what I really wonder is why, if you don't know, do you insist on your opinions of Israel being equally murderous so strongly?
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