'Child sacrifices in London'

[wum]

By Richard Edwards Crime Reporter, Evening Standard
16 June 2005



Boys from Africa are being murdered as human sacrifices in London churches.

They are brought into the capital to be offered up in rituals by fundamentalist Christian sects, according to a shocking report by Scotland Yard.

Followers believe that powerful spells require the deaths of "unblemished" male children.

[...]

African children being tortured and killed after being identified as "witches" by church pastors.

[...]

The aim of the Met study was to create an "open dialogue" with the African and Asian community in Newham and Hackney. In discussions with African community leaders, officers were told of examples of children being murdered because their parents or carers believe them to be possessed by evil spirits. Earlier-this month Sita Kisanga, 35, was convicted at the Old Bailey of torturing an eight-year-old girl from Angola she accused of being a witch.

Kisanga was a member of the Combat Spirituel church in Dalston. Many such churches, supported mainly by people from West Africa, sanction aggressive forms of exorcism on those thought to be possessed.

There are believed to be 300 such churches in the UK, mostly in London.

[...]

The true figure for missing boys and girls is feared to be several thousand a year.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by wum

By Richard Edwards Crime Reporter, Evening Standard
16 June 2005



Boys from Africa are being murdered as human sacrifices in London churches.

They are brought into the capital to be offered up in rituals by fundamentalist Christian sects, according to a shocking report by Scotland Yard.

Followers believe that powerful spells require the deaths of "unblemished" male children.

[...]

African children being tortured and killed after being identified as "witches" by church pastors.

[...]

The aim of the Met study was to create an "open dialogue" with the African and Asian community in Newham and Hackney. In discussions with African community leaders, officers were told of examples of children being murdered because their parents or carers believe them to be possessed by evil spirits. Earlier-this month Sita Kisanga, 35, was convicted at the Old Bailey of torturing an eight-year-old girl from Angola she accused of being a witch.

Kisanga was a member of the Combat Spirituel church in Dalston. Many such churches, supported mainly by people from West Africa, sanction aggressive forms of exorcism on those thought to be possessed.

There are believed to be 300 such churches in the UK, mostly in London.

[...]

The true figure for missing boys and girls is feared to be several thousand a year.

several thousand a year? yeah right do you knwo what the murder rate in england is? its less then 2 per 100,000 so even in the entire country of england there would only be 1200 murders a year. so if thousands were being killed it would be noticed.

[wum]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

several thousand a year? yeah right do you knwo what the murder rate in england is? its less then 2 per 100,000 so even in the entire country of england there would only be 1200 murders a year. so if thousands were being killed it would be noticed.

I don't suppose you work for Scotland Yard*.

Here's CNN's take on it

LONDON, England (Reuters) -- British police fear African children are being trafficked to the UK to be sacrificed in witchcraft rituals, the BBC reported on Thursday, citing an unpublished Scotland Yard study.

http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/eu...eut/index.html

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

several thousand a year? yeah right do you knwo what the murder rate in england is? its less then 2 per 100,000 so even in the entire country of england there would only be 1200 murders a year. so if thousands were being killed it would be noticed.

from the looks of both articles seems that these children are being smuggled in illegally, so even if the suspected murder rates were accurate there would be no way to track their murder rates.

[wum]

Originally Posted by Akeel

from the looks of both articles seems that these children are being smuggled in illegally, so even if the suspected murder rates were accurate there would be no way to track their murder rates.

i.e. these are the only murders they catch, so it could always be much higher when these are undocumented migrants

[wum]

IBracismfromauto

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by wum

i.e. these are the only murders they catch, so it could always be much higher when these are undocumented migrants

or much lower...stats like that are so subjective...and i really question whether or not the yard is pursuing this to the best of their abilities.

[esoter1c]

Imagine my shock !

[dr0pdeadfred]

well at least they get a nice plane ride with some good food before they are killed

[wum]

Originally Posted by Akeel

or much lower...stats like that are so subjective...and i really question whether or not the yard is pursuing this to the best of their abilities.

that makes no sense.

when you are illegally smuggled in, people don't keep tabs on you. The stats only reflect cases where a body was found and there was clear evidence. There could potentially be many more missing kids and no social worker, teacher, etc. would be the wiser.

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by ch0dab0y

well at least they get a nice plane ride with some good food before they are killed

lol how often do you fly?

[esoter1c]

Don't think this story is credible ? Read this and you will.

http://www.boingboing.net/2004/07/15...ren_raped.html

[wum]

^ that's a little different from human sacrifice nikkuh

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by wum

that makes no sense.

when you are illegally smuggled in, people don't keep tabs on you. The stats only reflect cases where a body was found and there was clear evidence. There could potentially be many more missing kids and no social worker, teacher, etc. would be the wiser.

what I meant was is since they only found so many bodies, the speculated numbers could be exagerated. let me spell it out for you slowly since i think you need a little help.

If they only find 10 bodies, there could only be 10 bodies...or 20 more bodies...or 7000 bodies as they are claiming.

Because the stats are subjective I dont think there could potentially be 7000 dead children kicking around great britain.

[wum]

Originally Posted by Akeel

what I meant was is since they only found so many bodies, the speculated numbers could be exagerated. let me spell it out for you slowly since i think you need a little help.

If they only find 10 bodies, there could only be 10 bodies...or 20 more bodies...or 7000 bodies as they are claiming.

Because the stats are subjective I dont think there could potentially be 7000 dead children kicking around great britain.

i'll go with their estimation versus yours

[Akeel]

^
i have a criminology degree

i think my opinion is more then valid.

[wum]

Originally Posted by Akeel

^
i have a criminology degree

i think my opinion is more then valid.

i guess that means you must have more knowledge than Scotland Yard who are dealing first hand with the cases then

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by wum

i guess that means you must have more knowledge than Scotland Yard who are dealing first hand with the cases then

i certainly have more then you and dont believe everything i read in a british tabloid.

ass hat.

[wum]

Originally Posted by Akeel

i certainly have more then you and dont believe everything i read in a british tabloid.

ass hat.

you have no basis for calling that a tabloid or for calling me an ass hat

[Akeel]

^
i already did.

you're a day late and a dollar short kiddo.

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by ch0dab0y

well at least they get a nice plane ride with some good food before they are killed

i wonder what movie they got to watch?

[PHUNK]

wum i must be honest.

you should just jump infront of a train.

your life would be better and you wouldn't have to live on this conspiracy planet of ours.

[dr0pdeadfred]

Originally Posted by crookedking

i wonder what movie they got to watch?

alive

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by Akeel

^
i have a criminology degree

i think my opinion is more then valid.

bwahahah*

The criminology department is going to teach you just like any company does.. They tell you that statistics are "close to exact" when in actuality...statistics are mainly bullshit numbers created to make sense of chaos...
they obviously they want you to think they are close to what it really is..

"I KNOW. IT WAS ON THE NEWS." ;P

I have twenty thousand more dollars in my pocket than you..
*haha

A short lesson on crime fighting..

If you have a criminal mind...you get a criminology degree to make your knowledge reputable..and in turn your work you do is way more effective.
A person with a previous understanding of the systems flaws, knows that there are many ways to slip through the cracks. Criminals also are viewing the statistics from an angle that shows the enormous margin of error that police reports have.

If you're opposed to crime and you go to school to learn about ways to fight it and figure out how criminals think...you won't KNOW anything but statistics, no matter how much schooling you take.

I hope you at one time thought like a criminal..or else your gonna be the worst kind of authority there is...a stupid one..
but you'll be happy to know that you'll be surrounded by stupid people that think they know ALL, just like you..so you'll fit right in*

[sungoo]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

but you'll be happy to know that you'll be surrounded by stupid people that think they know ALL, just like you..so you'll fit right in*

Do you know what irony means?