Is it rape? Female teachers and their students.

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by dabbler

its ok i got it. :) think your pretty smrt don't ya? lol

as smrt as they come :)

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by Silverwinged

uh.
i dont see how there was a pun there.

its extra funny cuz not only is there a pun using the word "willy" which could be his name, as well as something sexual, it's extra smrt for being gender biased. since this thread is about female teachers and male younger students. most people think that you can't rape a man, purely because he's "willing"
i found her spin on that triple smrt. so there! :P

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by dabbler

double standards innit

innit'is.

[Disco_Whore]

It does sound more like some form of seduction...which is true for both male/female teachers taking advantage of students. I know a lot of people feel that the word rape is more tied with forced sex or unwanted touch, but it's important to remember that in these cases its being used since it's part of sexual abuse of children which is a very serious offence. Childhood sexual abuse distorts adult-child relationships and impairs a child's ability to develop normally.
Keep in mind that just because these kids say they were willing doesn't mean it hasn't or won't cause them these developmental problems.

I'm sure the women in these cases were made examples of and given harsh sentences simply because the thought of women as predators bothers our society so much. It goes against everything we've been culturally taught to believe.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

it is rape and it is abuse of power.The women are sexual predators and should be treated accordingly.They had sex with someone who barely knows thier head from thier ass,they took advantage of the situation.They are sick in the head.What these women did is no different from what male pedophiles do.These women are pedophiles.

[Billy Shears]

If the sexes were reversed (male teacher, female student), would you even be asking this question?

[mapleleaf4ever]

Oh man! It's like that Teacher/Student Fantasy but the opposite!

[Hot Karl]

my view on this is simple.

for a boy to hook up with a 30 something woman, it's not a bad thing. in fact it's an awesome thing. chances are slim to zero that he's going to be abused. it's not like these women are getting the boys to kill their husbands or something. chances are the only side effect would be the guy has a thing for older women

for a girl to hook up with a 30 something man, it's a bad thing. chanes are she is in fact getting taken advantage of, and the damage could be very real and very lasting. her side effects could be a clusterfuck of mental damage resulting in one bad relationship.

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

my view on this is simple.

for a boy to hook up with a 30 something woman, it's not a bad thing. in fact it's an awesome thing. chances are slim to zero that he's going to be abused. it's not like these women are getting the boys to kill their husbands or something. chances are the only side effect would be the guy has a thing for older women

for a girl to hook up with a 30 something man, it's a bad thing. chanes are she is in fact getting taken advantage of, and the damage could be very real and very lasting. her side effects could be a clusterfuck of mental damage resulting in one bad relationship.

"To Die For" (1995)
Suzanne Stone (Nicole Kidman) will stop at nothing to become a famous television personality. So when her husband Larry (Matt Dillon) asks her to step out of the spotlight and into the kitchen and maternity ward, Suzanne panics, seduces an aimless teenager (Joaquin Phoenix), and convinces him to kill her husband. This black comedy is based on a true story.

w/e ur view is, it should apply to both gender.

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by Billy Shears

If the sexes were reversed (male teacher, female student), would you even be asking this question?

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

my view on this is simple.

for a boy to hook up with a 30 something woman, it's not a bad thing. in fact it's an awesome thing. chances are slim to zero that he's going to be abused. it's not like these women are getting the boys to kill their husbands or something. chances are the only side effect would be the guy has a thing for older women

for a girl to hook up with a 30 something man, it's a bad thing. chanes are she is in fact getting taken advantage of, and the damage could be very real and very lasting. her side effects could be a clusterfuck of mental damage resulting in one bad relationship.

DOUBLE STANDARD INNIT.


fuck srsly, do you not get it? double standards are whack. yes those boys were/can be raped. positions of authority should not be abused. standard.

[esoter1c]

It's very simple.....don't fuck kids. Standard !1!!!

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by dabbler

DOUBLE STANDARD INNIT.


fuck srsly, do you not get it? double standards are whack. yes those boys were/can be raped. positions of authority should not be abused. standard.

first of all, calm the fuck down. double standards are bad emkay? so's world hunger, terrorism and pollution! welcome to the real world.

so besides your hysterically pointless rant, do you have anything to add?

when exactly did i say positions of power should be abused? are you going to actually respond to my post? am i wrong in my analysis?

keep crying wolf re: rape. but real rape victims have enough problems with reporting a rape and how it's perceived, before you talk about this poor 15/16/17yr old boy who had sex with a teacher.
lots of guys in the history of the world have hit the teacher or other woman in a similar role. and lots of them were just fine, and it was just that, a fling. so don't compare that to a woman or man who actually gets raped.

stephen_c: i never said it doesn't happen, but the examples in the OP aren't about those. that's the most extreme version of this situation, so until that becomes even close to the norm, it's just that, a rare extreme version. besides, like she was the first woman to seduce a man to commit crimes for her.

[Ray!]

Avana i totally agree with you

[PwInCeSs]

Originally Posted by Silverwinged

uh.
i dont see how there was a pun there.


If i was a mom, and my son was under the age of 15-16, yes i would be angry.
But any older than that, and they know EXACTLY whats going on.

The kids on the show/talked about on the show/ were all 11-13 at the time so tehy are younger! 16 is the legal age of consent in most of the states.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

first of all, calm the fuck down. double standards are bad emkay? so's world hunger, terrorism and pollution! welcome to the real world.

so besides your hysterically pointless rant, do you have anything to add?

when exactly did i say positions of power should be abused? are you going to actually respond to my post? am i wrong in my analysis?

keep crying wolf re: rape. but real rape victims have enough problems with reporting a rape and how it's perceived, before you talk about this poor 15/16/17yr old boy who had sex with a teacher.
lots of guys in the history of the world have hit the teacher or other woman in a similar role. and lots of them were just fine, and it was just that, a fling. so don't compare that to a woman or man who actually gets raped.

stephen_c: i never said it doesn't happen, but the examples in the OP aren't about those. that's the most extreme version of this situation, so until that becomes even close to the norm, it's just that, a rare extreme version. besides, like she was the first woman to seduce a man to commit crimes for her.

so basically youre saying that men are emotionally retarded,and are otherwise incapable of feeling what someone of the opposite sex would feel if involved in the same situation?Are you saying that men are also incapable of knowing the difference between right and wrong and somehow thier morals and ethics are ...mutated...as opposed to someone of the opposite sex?Do you know how fucking ridiculous your implications are?

Who are you to say that these boys arent rape vicitims?Rape doesnt always need to happen by brute force,people can be raped by being manipulated or by being mentally disarmed into committing the sex act.It doesnt need to be physically violent to be rape.It can be emotionally and mentally violent and still be rape.Just because you dont view this as a rape in the conventional form doesnt by any means depreciate the magnitude of this situation and the emotional and mental reprocussions that can and will happen,if not immediately,but in future.I think youre dehumanizing rape and should seriously quit while youre ahead.

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

so basically youre saying that men are emotionally retarded,and are otherwise incapable of feeling what someone of the opposite sex would feel if involved in the same situation?Are you saying that men are also incapable of knowing the difference between right and wrong and somehow thier morals and ethics are ...mutated...as opposed to someone of the opposite sex?Do you know how fucking ridiculous your implications are?

hahahaha, go talk to some boys guys men whatever. there are a ton of men who are emotionally retarded, myself included. ask your girlfriends how many emotionally retarded boyfriends, friends, fuckfriends they have had? if they are keeping it honest, i'm willing to say that "normal/well adjusted" guy is the exception as opposed to the norm. remember to analyze this from a relationship point of view, not just as a buddy or acquaintence. because its easy to be cool as a friend.

Who are you to say that these boys arent rape vicitims?Rape doesnt always need to happen by brute force,people can be raped by being manipulated or by being mentally disarmed into committing the sex act.It doesnt need to be physically violent to be rape.It can be emotionally and mentally violent and still be rape.Just because you dont view this as a rape in the conventional form doesnt by any means depreciate the magnitude of this situation and the emotional and mental reprocussions that can and will happen,if not immediately,but in future.I think youre dehumanizing rape and should seriously quit while youre ahead.

i'm dehumanizing rape? so according to you, any sort of conflict/problem suddenly means that the older woman is mentally raping her boytoy? any sort of control she might have in the relationship is suddenly the equivalent of rape? people constantly play games with their SO, looking through your rose coloured glasses i could easily state that every one i know has been raped. a guilt trip for sex can fall into your wonderfully wide definition of "mental rape".

for all this talk about potential damage in the future,
you say that like this boy would never be abused in all sorts of ways mentally by a girl his own age.
for all we know this older woman is actually a blessing, because he's learning what it should be like as opposed to all the little kiddish shit people do and still do. i know tons of guys who've had some 'damage' from their first relationship. normal guys, all good, but i sure as hell don't see the shit they went through as anyworse then getting "raped" by a teacher. in fact in some cases i'd straight up switch their scenario for the teacher one.

for a guy this is locker room bragging rights. if he wakes up in the middle of the night, it's not because he's having a nightmare about fucking his teacher. this is rude and crass, for that i'm sorry. but it's also fucking true.

*for the record i'm all about the double standard, and this entire post applies strictly to the older woman/boytoy situation.

[LLaaUUrrYYn]

I wont even get into this because it would go on forever...

But im 22 and think a certain little 16 year old is cute. AM I A PERVERT?

[PwInCeSs]

^thats legal and not 11 or 12

[kAyB]

i saw that episode... i think thats so sick when a grown woman can say she was in love with oone of her students..not right at all..sorry stoned moment..