What needs to be done to boost the Vancouver scene in 2006?

[Genotype]

ever heard of an enema?

[tiedye]

I dig the chill room idea.. it'd be nice to have somewhere to catch your breath and let your brain jungle stop rattling for a few seconds that isn't the smoke pit. I've also noticed that there's a much better vibe in the air in the smaller room usually. Perhaps the more underground (or less Trance/House-orientated) scene has never let the positive neo-flower child attitude that made us want to check out our first rave go. Oh, and the 16+ thing is bunk.. I know I would have gone to my first rave as early as 13 if there was a rave scene within 10 hours of where I lived. It's that kind of attitude that is killing the vibe you miss.

[Séguin]

- quicker turnover
- more noobs
- diversity
- acceptance
- there doesn't need to be peace and love... but at least unity and respect. (TAZ)
- more focus on local tallent, less focus on who's big in the UK
- smaller frequency of raves, to make them more substantial

Just to name a few.

[Average]

Promoters need to start taking bigger risks bringing in bigger acts and and most of all being more diverse

[BongMan]

Josh pretty much nailed that one totally agree

[SquiLa]

Less hip and hop and pop crap on the radio and more electronica!!! - Albeit mainstream electonica, fine, but that'll be one step closer to educating the masses!! (As someone suggested earlier.) So many in the Lower Mainland don't even have a good idea of what electronic music is - I don't even care what genre! Awareness (of this music) will promote itself. Period.

[Cosmos]

-phase out trance, you know dnb is where it's at! some trance is ok...but only when you're very high, and then everything sounds good so it doesn't matter at that point...
-i like going to massives, small parties are fun and have great vibes but just the idea of a few thousand people coming together just to listen to some electronic and dance their glowsticks off, is a really awesome thing. more of them please!
-chill out rooms, always a good idea...8 hours of tripping and dancing is inhumane, even more so when there's no where to rest, relax, in a quieter room..that isn't a hallway or a foyer or infront of the bathroom sinks.
-age restrictions. i think a good age is 17. if you're not 17, that means...you probably don't have a drivers liscence, you probably still have a curfew, and you haven't even hit grade 12 yet...
-bitches who aren't there for the music but to wreck the vibe and bring up drama need to leave! if you aren't there to dance, to relax, to spread the love and have a fucking good time, why the fuck did you come?

and yea, that's all i have to put in...

[crookedking]

more genuine people going to raves.

[Bevvy Swift]

myles needs to start coming out again. problem solved.

[Sarah...]

^ yaaa.......where was he on new years!........fuck

[Pennywise]

i think this question was answered with a lil party called KISS!

[Silky1]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

I don't think a change in music is a fix, there are plenty of dj's for each genre. 16+ sounds good, new venues right now, your choices seem pretty poor these days. Age seems to be the biggest problem these days (and the odd ungrateful dj) mixed with alot of people moaning about the plaza days. So 16+ and a new plaza, first one seems easy but a new venue thats tricky....

Drazkers took the words right out of my mouth. If anyone follows these valuable points... eveerything should be great again. Also, give the DnBers their DnB, it seems as if a lot of people like the transition between the DnB room, House Room, and Trance like we used to have back in the plaza days. remember these points. use the force..

bring out better headliners for trance. there are a number of better Djs than the ones that have been coming here lately.
But im not taking away any compliments from the djs who have come here within the past few months. =)

Definitely shoot for a much more underground feel. Like a warehouse or something. Im so ready to start partying somewhere else than van, if things can't change within the next few months man. and i love it here.

[Digital Over]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

i think this question was answered with a lil party called KISS!

Or see what was done for Spooky 6...except finding a comprable venue is a huge dellima

[FeelGood]

better ecstacy.

[Technix]

No more forum flaming will cure the hurting scene.

[-evil-duerr-]

^you've got to be kidding.

[whited0ve]

i have to agree with 16+... just cause those kids under 16 are probably sneaking out of their house to go in the first place, and yea probably can't handle their drugs too well (lets face it theres tons of e at raves)... i wanna hear what parents think... i dont think theyd want their 12-15yr old runnin around on magic pills dancing to loud electronic music in a room of all kinds of ppl. plus.... should these parents become outraged... probably not good for the scene, media-speaking.

[justShell]

Originally Posted by eighty5

better ecstacy.

if people just stop doing it so often it would be better. bodys get imune. and whats the point of taking 3 to get high for 2 hours. ectacy is gross. dont do it, it just turns your brain into mush.

[Digital Over]

^ Hence why I've been 100% drug free for over a year now.....(to anyone who knew me before, figured that would be unheard of for me).....I personally think the scene would be vastly improved if people just really took a lot of consideration and respect for being seen as a guest. The fact is, people running through all over the place, A-D-D'd to the tits, NOT SAYING EXCUSE ME, NOR SORRY I might add, and then running up to people like, " How much have you done tonight, are you having fun"......well I think the average person would respond with a bewildered reaction and a simple "well I was having fun until pushy mcpusherson assed his/her way into my bubble." Cheech n Chong or Keith Richards are the only people that can blame it on "being high" manners are universal. Use them. Therefore, party citizens, pay I quote Keith Richards in saying "If you're going to get trashed, do it with class". I think that'd contribute to one of many things which yields to a positive vibe @ a party, thus better'ing the scene in vancouver

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by candi::shell

if people just stop doing it so often it would be better. bodys get imune. and whats the point of taking 3 to get high for 2 hours. ectacy is gross. dont do it, it just turns your brain into mush.

somebody didnt get my sarcasm.
thanks for the tips, mom.

[thechix0r]

Originally Posted by SquiLa

Less hip and hop and pop crap on the radio and more electronica!!! - Albeit mainstream electonica, fine, but that'll be one step closer to educating the masses!! (As someone suggested earlier.) So many in the Lower Mainland don't even have a good idea of what electronic music is - I don't even care what genre! Awareness (of this music) will promote itself. Period.

Have you seen some of the commericals these days... speed garage used for a barcardi commerical... people are definitely starting to notice it... but the bad side of it becoming mainstream is it turns sour because then it just becomes a a big "who can make the most money out of it" deal, kind of like in the 90's with all the fabricated bubblegum pop bands. Pop never use to have a negative connotation, but it slowly became that way as the Britney Spears and Backstreet Boys of the world were all fabricated by the likes of Louis Pearlman and L.A Reid.

That being said, I think the idea of having a nice quiet place to go during a rave, would be awesome, and somewhere too where there is some freshair and you're not just breathing in the stench of the rave. It's good to just have a place to go, sit for a couple mins and then get your ass back on the dance floor.

Age would also be a good idea. I went to my first rave at 18, and I still couldn't believe all the teenie boppers that were coming... all dressed like sluts, all high on something, being groped by 20 year olds. People want the club scene free of this, which is why more clubs don't allow people under 19 to enter, even if they have a "non-drinker" stamp on their hand.

Finally I think what really needs to happen is find SOMEWHERE other than the MLC... let's face it, that place, everyone knows it, but the only reason it's used is because there is nothing else. I think if the promoters and companies want to strike the attention of all the ravers out there, find somewhere that would rock as a venue... that would be the ulitmate change. I wasn't around for the Plaza of Nations raves, but all I hear about them is good things. I am sure somewhere in Vancouver, there has to be a venue that can be used. Probably why I liked Freaknight in Seattle, because it was huge, the environment was good and it was spacious enough. Same reason why APEX is also a nice change. If you look in the "Favourite Raves" thread... most people said APEX, and although for other reasons, partially because it's a different place than all the other raves.

[Silky1]

MLC is too small for me. id only go there if there was some unbelievably crazy light setup or something that just couldnt be missed. otherwise no thanks.

[KenJi]

Chillroom sounds like a good idea.

Age restriction i'm iffy about as. Its not really just the young girls that are dressed and acting slutty, alot of girls in general at raves are like that. I guess it makes it right though cause these girls are 20 and slutting it up though rite.

We need a more educated rave scene thats what we need, and I don't mean all books and nerdy kids either. I mean kids with a pretty good head on their shoulders. Alot of common sense in their brain.

It just comes to the people itself.

The lack of venue's does hurt too though. Thats the city and its retrictions though

Electronica music doesnt' necessarily have to go mainstream. Its already on its way. Played at hockey games, on t.v, in commercials like wendy's etc...

Electronic music becoming mainstream I don't think will allow the city to go lienent on its policies.

[KenJi]

As long as the city has these restrictions. Its tough for anyone to throw a party, let alone legally without it costing X amount of moola.

A venue central and legal, and not overally expensive would be the perfect place for the scene to re-take off, unfortunately that just won't happen in this day and age.

[KenJi]

I think Diversity would be nice too, wishing people that go to shows/raves whatever you wanna call em would give other music a chance, and more than that actually educate themselves instead of just following what is popular.