Autobots and midi at the beaumont

[dj_soo]

^ i don't think anyone has a problem with the event being kept open, but more of not announcing that the headliners weren't there at the event, not offering refunds (yet), and just not commenting on the situation after almost 24 hours.

In most situations when something like this happens, the promoters will have annoucements taped all over the event and present ways to contact them to get refunds or such and then post all over every message board the event was promoted on explaining the situation the very same night.

Sucks to lose money on the event, but the simple fact is people paid $20 to see the headliners as advertised and that didn't happen. Shit like this happens - it's part of the risk of being a promoter.

Just last week, Automatic offered refunds to everyone to their show and the headliner *did* show up (albeit 2 hours late).

for the record, i didn't attend i i don't really care...

Edit - wow outposted x2 - that was for b0ld

[diarrhea]

Thank Fuck I decided not too attend this show at the last minute...Hopefully these Dj's are actually brought one day soon tho...

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by tiedye

Lame: 1, Grapes: 0.

(sorry dude. I calls them as they is.)

That's tough but fair.

[Melvis5]

[quote=dj_soo;1828294]^ i don't think anyone has a problem with the event being kept open, but more of not announcing that the headliners weren't there at the event, not offering refunds (yet), and just not commenting on the situation after almost 24 hours.

In most situations when something like this happens, the promoters will have annoucements taped all over the event and present ways to contact them to get refunds or such and then post all over every message board the event was promoted on explaining the situation the very same night.

Sucks to lose money on the event, but the simple fact is people paid $20 to see the headliners as advertised and that didn't happen. Shit like this happens - it's part of the risk of being a promoter.

Just last week, Automatic offered refunds to everyone to their show and the headliner *did* show up (albeit 2 hours late).


This is exactly the point, and it's just been posted by a professional in the biz. I think Pound need to do something about this EMMEDIATELY! There are clearly a lot of upset ppl who would really like their money back.

[Pussy*Kat]

^ *edited because cubed is right*

[cubed]

^personally I think you should just stay out of all of this completely.

I'm sure Pound are more than capable of resolving this situation without someone like you stoking the fire with misdirection and hopes of resolution.

[PwInCeSs]

Originally Posted by Melvis5

EMMEDIATELY!

Ummm
immediately*

[dj_soo]

the sad part is that you shouldn't have to be trying to get ahold of anyone to explain. Should be professional courtesy. A promotions company should not need a random msg board person/friend unofficially speaking on their behalf - and this is coming from someone who's been a fan of Pound since they had been running Wednesday's at The Drink.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by Grapes

That's tough but fair.

I like to think of myself as a compassionate but logical mentor.

[BongMan]

Originally Posted by b0ld

^^since you like to bitch and all how about you throw your own show then?

This is the single most overused remark I see on this board when someone complains about a party. Yes, the audience should of been notified and partial refunds offered. If someone paid for something and it was totally less then what was expected they do have a right to be angry and voice that opinion. Now I know Pound has thrown parties before going off as they should and as a whole they have a very good track record IMO. But if I was there to see Autobots and Midi and they both no show I would be extremely pissed and deffinatly would of made it known.

[cubed]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

the sad part is that you shouldn't have to be trying to get ahold of anyone to explain. Should be professional courtesy. A promotions company should not need a random msg board person/friend unofficially speaking on their behalf - and this is coming from someone who's been a fan of Pound since they had been running Wednesday's at The Drink.

Very true.

[beepbeep]

I wasnt there, nor am I affiliated with Pound. As well as no one even knows me or who I am so I have no pull around here with what I say.

But Im gunna comment anyways because Im cool like that!

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by b0ld

^^since you like to bitch and all how about you throw your own show then?

I don't have to be a director to bitch about a disappointing movie.

I don't have to be a certified chef to bitch about a disappointing meal.

I don't have to be a writer to bitch about a disappointing book.

Explain to me why exactly I would need to be a promoter to bitch about a disappointing show?

Seriously, I hear this all the fucking time from friends of promoters or promoters themselves when something goes wrong or some shit goes down at an event. I've always though the best thing to do is apologize, take the monetary hit (if there is one), dust yourself off, and start planning the next event.

Telling someone they don't have a right to bitch since they've never thrown a party is just plain retarded.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

I don't have to be a director to bitch about a disappointing movie.

I don't have to be a certified chef to bitch about a disappointing meal.

I don't have to be a writer to bitch about a disappointing book.

Explain to me why exactly I would need to be a promoter to bitch about a disappointing show?

Seriously, I hear this all the fucking time from friends of promoters or promoters themselves when something goes wrong or some shit goes down at an event. I've always though the best thing to do is apologize, take the monetary hit (if there is one), dust yourself off, and start planning the next event.

Telling someone they don't have a right to bitch since they've never thrown a party is just plain retarded.

After all... the show is for the fans, right? The promoter's success is 100% dependant on the patrons. Anyone who says otherwise is horribly mistaken.

[Towelie]

Dj Soo rockin the shitty party review!

KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

[Akeel]

Official statement to be released shortly.

After cleaning up all night I slept most of the day.

I've been around this scene a long time and my history speaks for itself, sit tight and all will be explained and rectified.

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by Melvis5

Although I see how the promoters were put in a very tough position, that's all part of the game and they should have been professional enough to handle it very differently! An announcement that there would be no headliners and offers for full, or at least partial refunds was clearly the way to handle it. They had MCs that were still yelling about 'Autobots and General Midi' at 1 am! The crowd had a right to know the truth, but instead they kept everyone in the dark (and as a result seem to have kept everyone's money at the same time). By lying to everyone including their MCs, and dealing with the situation by simply leaving Akeel playing for hour after painful hour, all these promoters did was make themselves look very very bad. The situation itself apparently couldn't be helped, but the way it was handled COULD HAVE. Why should they be given a chance to 'make it up' They have posted NOTHING, and haven't even acknowledged what happened or offered explanations and refunds. I've been around the scene for a long time now and this is the single most unprofessional thing i've ever seen. A crowd of hundreds of expecting people were left standing in confusion all night, wondering where the headliners they paid to see were, and why Akeel seemed to just keep on playing. I personally will never attend another 'Pound' event and i really hope that someone from the company does something very fast (at this point i see nothing short of full refunds can save them) to remedy the situation. WallyChamp and every other person who paid good money for nothing has every right to be mad and deserves their money back.

i'm not going to bother with this troll.

Wallychamp, i've pm'd you regarding contacting me, again sorry you dont like my shitty trainwrecking.

[Melvis5]

I post a fair explanation of what happened and why ppl are mad and I get called names...once again, real professional.

[Akeel]

^
If you would like an explanation

604-765-7285

call me and i'll give you one, i can't post anything yet since it has to be cleared by Hope Management, Afterdark Talent and Broke Records.

I'm sure you'll understand how I think you probably wont call me though, seeing as you just registered today and all your posts are about my show.

Regards,

Akeel

[Akeel]

Kat, thanx for posting while we were all sleeping this morning, you were a big part of putting this together and we're all really happy to have you on our team

[G3N3R4L]

Originally Posted by Akeel

I've been around this scene a long time and my history speaks for itself, sit tight and all will be explained and rectified.

qft

shit happens and things dont work out the way they were intended from time to time..

alot of smack talk has been dished out.. definately agree that people just need to chill for the time being.

[SPK]

Dear POUND Nation,

What can I say except, "we're sorry." For those of you who came solely to hear the Autobots & General Midi, "We're sorry." We worked our asses off to bring these guys to our St. Patty's Day jam. Judging by the quality of the production, the turnout and the vibe, we delivered. Unfortunately we didn't plan well enough to deal with issues at the border and fell flat on our faces where it mattered most. We didn't give the guys enough time to get back from Oregon if Canada Customs felt like being dicks. At 12:38 AM I got the call from the boys, who were in the middle of getting right-reamed by the border guards. I only wish they had better things to do with their time than harrass DJ's. After 200+ events this was only our 2nd no-show.

Now having said that, I'd like to thank the 90% of you who didn't let this SNAFU ruin your night. You always seem to have our backs. This weekend we gave you everything we had, bringing in carpenters to mount the speakers in the ceiling and to hang the decks in the gallery; ripping out half the seats and risers in the theatre so everyone could have room to dance; providing cheap cover, cheap booze and a safe place to get wasted so normal people could afford to go out for a change. And you. . . you gave it all right back. You were giving it all night long with no cares about no-shows, hype or "the scene." You were too busy dancing and sweating and having a good time. As far as we're concerned, you made that party as good as any in our long history. You seasoned partiers know that *sometimes* shit like this happens - and you blew the doors off the Beaumont.

In terms of make-ups, we really can't do much about refunds at this point, but we will be hosting a special private make-up party at a future date. We'd ask you to support our efforts and cut us some slack so we can continue to push ahead with new shows in new spaces at affordable prices for cool people. I'd ask you all to sign up on the POUND mailing list and give us a chance to figure out what's the next best way to set things right. Since we don't have a good paper trail, we will have to use the POUND list as the determinant, so please sign up.

http://www.poundrecordings.com

If that's still not good enough for you, please send me an e-mail and I will personally work with you to fix things.

Peace,

Sean Karl, President
POUND Recordings Inc.
skarl@poundrecordings.com

[RichWeee!]

^^^Pro through and through!

Yes, the unfortunate lack of headliners was shitty for those who were going solely to see the headliners, but it would seem that it was far shittier for the event producers, not to mention the boys getting held up, harassed, frustrated, etc, at the border. Man, that woulda fuckin sucked!

Besides that, it's not Pounds fault that some people out there just don't know how to have a good time anymore!

Thank you Pound for your party and your continued professionalism!

(Peace out to the Trolls and Naysayers - good luck with life!)

[SPK]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

A promotions company should not need a random msg board person/friend unofficially speaking on their behalf

Maybe you should take your own advice. For a guy who didn't go the party and says he doesn't care, I find it odd that you've chased this subject around two different message boards. Wait, maybe it's not odd at all since you're intimately tied to the competing party from that night.

Real classy. First we offer to work with the Boomtown boys and they say no. Then they diss our show and claim it wasn't directed at us. Now they kick us when we're down.

I guess that's it.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by SPK

Maybe you should take your own advice. For a guy who didn't go the party and says he doesn't care, I find it odd that you've chased this subject around two different message boards. Wait, maybe it's not odd at all since you're intimately tied to the competing party from that night.

Real classy. First we offer to work with the Boomtown boys and they say no. Then they diss our show and claim it wasn't directed at us. Now they kick us when we're down.

I guess that's it.

I had nothing to do with Lucky Break - i didn't even attend that show. I just call it like I see it - it should not have to take a promoter more than 24 hours to respond to a headliner not showing up.

Truth be told, I'm just being a bitch about it mainly cause i really injured myself and have been in a bad mood the last couple of days.

That being said, I do think promoters should be held accountable for their actions and I honestly am kinda disappointed that a company like Pound would do something like this (not announce the headliners not showing during the party and not offering refunds afterwards) probably because I do respect the hell out of you guys. I would expect behaviour like that from some promoters in town (no names) but not Pound...

Also, for the record, I have nothing to do with Boomtown. I'm Wood's partner in DJing - not Boomtown - and anything I say should not be considered the opinion of Boomtown or anyone affiliated with it.