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[Dj G-Style]

Originally Posted by flipmat

K, and the main rooms sound was done pretty good for the venue and all sound reflection issues in it.. but for the breaks room and the house room.. it should have been improved majorly by the way the speakers were placed, masterplan setup those speakers like it was a highschool dance in some big gym with no thought at all, they were wide ass rooms with cement everywhere inculding the back wall, there is a way to fix that stuff up just by movin the speakers around the room to compensate for bounced soundwaves..

Actually the way they were set-up was the only way this could be achieved. By distributing the speakers throughout the area would require several lines of delay and still you would have to compensate for the reflection there after. Also with the size of the set-up in each room placing the set-up in any other location does not allow fire marshalls regulation for safe spacing and crowd control parameters which was measured out several times in various positions. The set-up that was installed was unfortunetly the only option we had an other way would have created more audio problems and a variety of compounded issues. When commenting on sound reinforcment please take into consideration that even though you are knowledgable your expertise in any of these areas is limited. With almost 16 Years of experience in the entertainment fields of audio and lighting I can assure you all available options to each area was taken into consideration.
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[de-ken]

man... a few years of partying makes a big difference

i partied at the agrodome in 2000 at some party called Mayday. anyone remember that? I think donald glaude was playing there. i thought the venue was pretty good. i guess i was just stupid 4 years ago!

[neoh]

what would happen if you put the stage right in the middle? :)

[VinnyVo]

i wonder how many shirts Oakenfold actually sold at the party..

or even like how old are those T's you know.. they could be years old.. cause they looked used

i mean.. yay. im gonna buy a shirt and remember my OAkenfold experience for ever.. cause i experienced oakenfold.... but the experience sucked asss .. i feel sorry for that one guy who bought a shirt and he was wearing at the party..

poor fella.. 1st time to a rave, 1st time doing E, first time even talking to a girl or even holder her hand... poor fella..

[khandydav3]

not only was oakenfold an asshole...was he high??? i swear, there is no way that man was sober...he was swaying around like a mofo, and looked so pist....i actually like the sound....the reverb was a trip...haha, oaky apun traffic, which was spun at fever too....the security was really nice...it was a nice break from the assholes at genesis....but yea, people were getting hella pisst at tazix....poor guy,....it was kinda annoying though, especially cuz the energy was pretty high when he started, and then everyone got so pissed....ok, explain something to me....WHY WAS "HERO" SHOWING ON THE SCREENS?????

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by VinnyVo

i wonder how many shirts Oakenfold actually sold at the party..

or even like how old are those T's you know.. they could be years old.. cause they looked used

i mean.. yay. im gonna buy a shirt and remember my OAkenfold experience for ever.. cause i experienced oakenfold.... but the experience sucked asss .. i feel sorry for that one guy who bought a shirt and he was wearing at the party.

Oakenfold should sell toilet paper at parties he spins at.

Because he sure is like shit.

[Dj G-Style]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

Oakenfold should sell toilet paper at parties he spins at.

Because he sure is like shit.

That's a facking great comment.
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[neoh]

Who got pissed at Tazix?
Nobody pisses on Tazix and gets away with it.

That's fucked.

[-DLO_604-]

Originally Posted by de-ken

man... a few years of partying makes a big difference

i partied at the agrodome in 2000 at some party called Mayday. anyone remember that? I think donald glaude was playing there. i thought the venue was pretty good. i guess i was just stupid 4 years ago!

LOL sure does!

Man now I gotto parties with a completely different perspective when I first started going partying.

[Dj G-Style]

A few years of partying does change but everyones perspective on these events has changed.The audience is much more opinionated in regards to the set-ups and to some degree I agree with it. Back in the day you would spend 20 - 30 bucks on a show and you'd get a good time but who cares about the set-up at that price. When you are spending upwards of $50 a ticket you can understand that people wish to see there moneys worth. It's just sometimes alot harder than people think when balancing tight budget parameters. I think I speak for everyone when I say that we all do aour very best to give the audience the best bang for their entertainment dollar but some peoples expectations are a little unrealistic. For instance a decent laser show will run you in the $2,500.00 dollar range alone. Then your average sound system for three rooms is going to run you in the range of 6-8 thousand and then on top of this you usually will see a bill of about 8-10k for lighting and 4-5 thousand for video. Last thing on the list is labor and delivery and that tab will be somewhere around 7 thousand. So as you can see the bills get racked up pretty fast especially considering we haven't talked about security,police,ambulance,venue staff, also the venue itself as well as the costs that come along with that ie power,garbage removal/cleanup and on and on. At the end of all this you have to supply talent which costs anywhere from 20 - 40k depending on whom you are getting and that is their cost not including hotels flights and food expenses. That $50 ticket gets used up very quickly as you can see.
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[Akeel]

oakenfold's rider always has the rane rotary mixer on it. He's been using that mixer since he first started dj'ing years ago.

The Rane is actually pretty easy to use, but it can be intimidating to someone that hasnt used it before.

Also, its not a piece of crap, ask any audio technician or dj that knows his equipment and they'll tell you the rane rotary is still one of the best sounding mixers out there by far. Thats why it still has the expensive price tag it does even after all these years. You just don't get the same quality in a pioneer.

[dSl-DuDe]

^ thanks for the bad karma...I was just implying that the locals were probably expecting a Pioneer, and had never practiced on a rotary before... the looks on their faces were priceless when they saw it...and trainwrecked.. :(

[jdroom112]

LOL thank god I am not the only one that thought Olkenfold's T-Shirt's sucked ass.........shit let's play a shitty set and act like an asshole and leave early.....But hey buy my T-shirt, support my premadonna bullshit....... I have no respect for someone like that and nor will I ever pay money to see him again.

[Serotonin]

phynn's personality reflects in his music! unlike some of the other arrogant,obnoxious,pompous bastards.And how about that fuck (oakies manager) shady brady he was like talking to girls and was like hey do you want to meet oakenfold backstage do you have any friends who are strippers who wanna come back to our hotel room?ya right buddy This fuck did the same thing in calgary trying to get one of my friends to go back to their hotel rooms.

[Kraig]

Wow... in reading all of the comments here, I really want to thank everyone for being so positive and understanding.

To be honest, I was expecting the typical immature response from some IE: Twisted sucks, they don't know how to setup a sound system, etc... It appears though everyone is understanding the the venue just plain sucks ass for accoustics.

Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for the understanding from you all. As I mentioned before, that will be the last time we use that venue.

As for The Freestylers -- after hanging with them all weekend, they had a great time here. They really enjoyed playing for the Vancouver crowd again and I will most likely be bringing them back out before the end of the year most likely to a club.

Cheers.

[neoh]

i liked the venue. :(
then again i'm a trance head and was front row center.

oh well. :)

[matéo]

Originally Posted by flipmat

i walked into the main room to hear oakie spin, but that lasted like 5mins becuz he sucked ass compared to what i was expecting..

theres your first problem. 5 mins?


Paul okanfold wasnt nearly as bad as you people say. He is used to playing in front of thousands of people of course hes gunna be in a shitty mood seeing a bunch of drug induced 15 year olds dancing away compared to the different "music loving" crowds hes used to. I admit his mixing wasnt phenomonal but it wasnt horrible especially compared to some big names that have played main stage (the same ones you losers praise week after week)

playing what he played at 4am is almost the equivalant to someone jumping up there and playing breakbeats at the same time (its not going to be welcomed) but unfortunately everyone is dependent on anthem style hard rave trance. the djs on before paul should have played music according to what he was playing which doesnt mean playing hard trance at 10pm.

[MC Hammered]

If he played breaks at least people would have danced to it.

Come on... a guy that has spun as much as he did should have been able to tell that the crowd wasn't getting into his set and change it up.

A DJ of his "calibre' should be able to mix just about any trance record right? He could have grabbed any of the other DJ's record bags and borrowed some of the records, I'm sure he must of heard of some of those tracks being who he is, and mixed them.

Unless he planned to play a sub 130bpm to put people to sleep I find it inexcusable how his set ended up.

[flipmat]

Originally Posted by Dj G-Style

Actually the way they were set-up was the only way this could be achieved. By distributing the speakers throughout the area would require several lines of delay and still you would have to compensate for the reflection there after. Also with the size of the set-up in each room placing the set-up in any other location does not allow fire marshalls regulation for safe spacing and crowd control parameters which was measured out several times in various positions. The set-up that was installed was unfortunetly the only option we had an other way would have created more audio problems and a variety of compounded issues. When commenting on sound reinforcment please take into consideration that even though you are knowledgable your expertise in any of these areas is limited. With almost 16 Years of experience in the entertainment fields of audio and lighting I can assure you all available options to each area was taken into consideration.
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hmm, well thats interesting, but it doesn't require any kind of delay on the speakers in a room that short, the speakers were stacked too close to the dj for how wide the room was and there's a few other things like rear speakers that are out of phase from the main's, and yes a bit of delay on the subs might have helped but not necesary.. the problem is that there was not enough attention on the setup, there is not much the sound techs could do once the speakers were set up like that.. as an example at Plaza in the BC Room(usually breaks), the bins were always stacked on the sides of the room and not beside the dj; the sound was incredible in that room because of the speakers bein seperated more and angled in.. but when someone decided to move them to the middle beside the dj it never did sound as good as it did. i think they could have put two more Bass Bins and moved two of the six mid/highs to the back of the room, then those sound techs could have probably fixed it up a bit better for us, that System(TX) has one crazy bass response tho, when the freestylers got into the DnB it just pounded.. I always loved that TX shit when i worked for them.. I'm just simply saying that i think it could have gotten alot more attention then it did. I don't think that many options were considered like they should have becuz it was setup like every other rig mp sets up in a second or third room.. Easy, Quick, And Simple.. There were so many ways things could have been improved, but its all good cuz i don't wanna give away all my secrets..those sound guys that were there tho seemed very attentive to try and fix it.

[Harp]

i've gotta admit that his mixing wuzn't bad...it wuz aight but yes he should have played harder but the one thing that pisses me and everyone else that saw that monkey lookAlike wuz the fact that his attitude wuz so shitty...like comeon show sum fuckN respect to the ppl who came to see u spin...like yawning on stage (and he wuz not tired)....wut he did to danny wuz pure ass...signing a record that sumone who looks up to u and then waving him to leave...if he did that to me i'd break that record right infront of him...i hope he never comes here again cuz if he duz i hope theres sumone there who will offer him a bannana...

[flipmat]

Originally Posted by matéo

theres your first problem. 5 mins?

alrite maybe it wasent 5mins, probably 15 or 20, either way it was short and i was gettin bored, maybe i just don't have a feel fr that kinda music ill get over it, hah

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

kraig ROCKED IT!

HOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

oh yeah, cuz thats not old.

[matéo]

he plays what he played the other night around the world and has thousands dancing to some of the same toons he played. its just you "hard trance deprived losers" are so dependant on what you hear every single rave. why should a dj change his style just because we havent developed a taste for different music being played there.

[-DLO_604-]

Originally Posted by Harp

i've gotta admit that his mixing wuzn't bad...it wuz aight but yes he should have played harder but the one thing that pisses me and everyone else that saw that monkey lookAlike wuz the fact that his attitude wuz so shitty...like comeon show sum fuckN respect to the ppl who came to see u spin...like yawning on stage (and he wuz not tired)....wut he did to danny wuz pure ass...signing a record that sumone who looks up to u and then waving him to leave...if he did that to me i'd break that record right infront of him...i hope he never comes here again cuz if he duz i hope theres sumone there who will offer him a bannana...

screw offering him banana. I'll offer him my specialty. The good ol' Knuckle sandwich.

It's the best of the best. Harp you should tell him to try it while he comes to Vancouver's finest dining cuisine.

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by dj_precise

As for the Freestylers, anyone who knows me can tell you that I am a huge fan of theirs and I was real hyped to see them play but I was extremely dissapointed with their set. Not that they played bad music by any means, but 90% of the tracks that they did play, I had already in my record box!
Now I am just a local dj and I keep pretty current with tracks but when you hear someone like the Freestylers you expect to hear mad NEW unreleased tracks that wont be out in 9 months(youd think that they get everything sent to them from producers around the world?) and crazy rare tracks never to see the light of day. I dont think thats too much to expect from one of the biggest producers in the breaks scene when I say this.

Ive been noticing this with alot of headliners recently!?! Again many of my favorites Ive gone to see and hoping to hear some new crazy stuff, but find the majority of the trax they play have already been plyed out by locals and are top sellers online!?! NO DEAL!!! What would be the point to pay so much to see a headliner if their set was nothign special?

hmm =/