The all 'consuming' event they call 'Christmas'

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i blame the white man

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Krusha

please don't make me, make you look like an idiot, if you had any base understanding of religon or numerology and how it relates to linguistics/etymology you wouldn't be posting such stupid pictures

it's all related to math, letters hold a numeric value, as do the pronounciation of vowels and consanents ... hence the use of certain words being repeated in mantras

but of course this kind of discussion would require you to use new parts of your brain, and it looks like you're quite happy where you are

numerology=scouring for unrelated facts and plucking unsubstantiated associations inorder to prove dubious claims

[SEAN!]

4+4=8
8 is a very auspicious number in chinese refering to fortune
'dumb shit' has 8 letters

OH MY GOD THAT MEANS DUMB SHIT IS LUCKY, FUCK HAVING A CAREER I SHOULD FOCUS ON STUDYING DUMB SHIT LIKE NUMEROLOGY IN ORDER TO REACH THE HEIGHTS OF SUCCESS.

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[SEAN!]

Im Pagan, I Worship Trees And Shit, Christianity Is A Sham!

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

numerology=scouring for unrelated facts and plucking unsubstantiated associations inorder to prove dubious claims

you are aware that numerology dates back to the earliest recorded human cultures and has many different traditions.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

what this day is supposed to represent is thousands of years of lies.

Christ wasnt born at this time of year. Christmas is Saturnalia a pagan roman celebration.The numerical equivalent to satans name in hebrew is 359. the 359th day of the year is december 25th. The numerical equivalent to santa is also 359.

Boughs of holly?pagan
mistletoe?pagan
x-maz trees?pagan
x-maz lights?pagan

X-maz is about materialiasm. Not about Christ,not about family. Its about deception and greed.

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

hi zeitgiest called, they want thier ridiculous theory back.

...interesting...

[decypher]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

ideology trumps reality every time

but what if ideology is reality!! :weird: lol there are easily 15 definitions for that word, it's such a can of worms.

Anyways, I don't understand why everyone talks about some golden era where people lived in harmony and had strong moral and family values. I call bullshit. We've been fed a consumer dogma ever since the creation of the capitalist system and the ideas behind it. These power relationships have been around for a long time. It's the same argument the American's use to rekindle some romantic notion of the American dream for political needs. This morally correct and picture perfect family is used to sell stuff.

Even if you are lucky enough to have a non-crazy family who can actually sit at a table together over the holidays it's very rare everyone present, and the activities you take part in, would be non-consumer. Ralphie in 'A Christmas Story' tries to decode that secret message over the radio to find out it's a commercial to drink ovaltine. You can't escape it. That's just how the system structures things whether it's capitalist or some global theocracy.

But don't let all that depress you this holiday lol. Like ebbo said, people have a natural way of sharing love with the people they care about which is what this season is conventionally about. Doing something nice can be infectious this time of the year and can really make someone take a step back from consumer society.

[wishbone]

consumerism is great, I don't know what the big deal is.

[NinjaBoy]

As someone who works mostly with advertising, I fully support your greed.

[Grapes]

^ Not only support, encourage.

[NinjaBoy]

^
As long as they pay for advertising on the Radio. If they don't they suck and you shouldn't buy anything from them.

Also, I heard they said you guys are dorks!

[Alex]

I am all for consumerism. I am against society imposing obligatory spending on a given date.

I am very much for making an excuse to spend time with family and friends. In fact, I celebrate Christmas twice, Dec 25th and January 6th.

That being said I 'passed' on gift giving for several years. Last year I bought something for my girl friend and my mom(she kept buying me things even though I made it extremely clear I wanted nothing) however others ignored my requests and bought me gifts.

This year I've spent quite a bit on gifts, not because I've finally succumb to the 'joy of gift giving'(I am not against gifts, or buying things for friends and family, I just believe in doing it at my own prerogative) but because my guilt has overridden my rational decision making process.

[NinjaBoy]

guys if i post in this thread that christmas has lost its true meaning and everyone is a greedy consumer, does it absolve me from taking part in it and enjoying it?

[kir mokum]

there are some frustratingly uneducated opinions in this thread.

[Courtney]

I take part in consumerism everyday as do most people so I don't find it suprising that we actually have several days with the sole intent of doing what we do best

[Wood]

wait a minute... Looney Tunes? Donald Duck?

what exactly are you trying to pull here?

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

there are some frustratingly uneducated opinions in this thread.

Hi there! Welcome to FnK! Hope you enjoy your stay!

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

there are some frustratingly uneducated opinions in this thread.

It took you this long to realize that people on the internet talk out of their ass...?

[Alex]

On the internet? I think people tend to talk 'out of their ass' no matter what the forum of discussion happens to be.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Alex

On the internet? I think people tend to talk 'out of their ass' no matter what the forum of discussion happens to be.

Gah, everyone sucks, nobody understands me...

Let's write about it in our livejournal.

Dear LJ,

Today was a sad day like any other. Why must these "people" insist on filling the void of their lives with "discussions". I tried educating some of these "sheep" by posting the truth, but they failed to realize it even though I linked to several wikipedia articles that proved my point beyond a doubt. They said I was still "wrong". Just like the people in real life. I'm sad.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

you are aware that numerology dates back to the earliest recorded human cultures and has many different traditions.

so does belief in dragons

[MC Hammered]

I believe in dragons!

Grand Dragons in fact!

[Wood]

^but you also believe that there's a 'donald duck' in looney tunes

[ebbomega]

^ LAWYERED!