People who refer to Hardcore as "HHC" or "Happy Hardcore"

[Séguin]

No, I'll keep my opinion that your all jackasses because you jump down its throat every chance you get.

[zarlon]

i like happy hardcore.

[FireWire]

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

you mean the other 97% of the vancouver electronic music scene that doesn't give to fucks about hardcore?

look peppertree, don't be a fucking douchebag just cause everyone else is not in key with hardcore like you. there is no reason for you to get offensive with me over a matter that is not within you're control. spin your music, have fun doing it, but don't expect others to follow.

cause they most likely won't.

You are missing a point. We aren't forcing you to like it. All we are saying is that you shouldn't be saying that it's not music (because IT IS MUSIC) and that you shouldn't be saying that it's shitty (because to the 3% of Vancouver that actualy LIKE IT... it's NOT shitty).

Do you see US (the people that like hardcore such as myself, Peppertree, b0ld, etc.) going online and bashing YOUR style of music? Does FireWire, Peppertree and b0ld ever make posts saying that drum n' bass, breaks, house, electro, funky, progressive, trance, hard trance, hard house are SHITTY? Do we say that dnb isn't even music? Do you see the ever-so-low 3% of hardcore lovers show disrespect to your 97% of dnb and house lovers? Just because you are the majority, it doesn't mean you have the power to call a genre "not music".


Learn some common respect. Get an open-mind. Being close-minded like that just shows what kind of a person you are - the kind I stay away from. And before you go on accussing me of liking only hardcore, I'll just say that I like a lot of different music:

(this is straight from my Nexopia and Myspace profiles):

HARDCORE
- Freeform
- Finnish freeform
- Happy hardcore
- Breakcore
- Gabber
- Speedcore
- Noisecore
- Makina
- IDM / Glitch
- Japanese hardcore
- Breakbeat
- Trancecore

OTHER
- Hard trance
- Hard house
- Hard style
- Hard dance
- Techno
- Trance
- Psytrance
- Goa / Psy
- Breaks
- Drum n' Bass
- Electro house
- Funky house
- Speed garage
- Eurodance
- Chillout
- Rap
- Rock
- Indie
- Hip-Hop
- Alternative

[Séguin]

I don't make posts bashing anything else, because I like everything else. The only thing I have an issue with is Speed Garage, and thats only because they use that same terrible patch for the bassline every time.

People here just hate happy hardcore because they don't understand music existing for the single purpose of being cheesy and fun. Its not supposed to be serious and sophisticated. Thats why so many people love it.

[zarlon]

^ hear ye, hear ye.

it can really bring out the kid in you. unless you get easily embarassed, because you are afraid of your "cool" friends bashing you :P

[cinist]

ya wankers

[Séguin]

Oh also... I dare someone to tell me this isn't music:

[zarlon]

^ its -sheet- music... of.. silence... :p

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by ppcock

you could say that about all electronic... but if i remember correctly, you were liking it back in 2000.

Um, hell no. Hardcore sucks, I have always thought so.
I wouldn't call it "music" bc to me it just sounds like disorganized NOISE.

[Niko]

OMG! Someone resurrected one of my posts from over a year and a half ago. I think I feel tears coming on. *choked up*

Seriously though, I still think people who call different types of hardcore "HHC" or "Happy Hardcore" are just being stupid. That was the point of the post when I made it what feels like a quarter century ago. Doesn't matter if you hate it or not, or even if I hate it or not, you'd look like an idiot if you called Breakcore or Psytekk "Happy Hardcore" the same way as if you called Snoop Dogg "East Cost Gangsta Rap"

Still, I'm honoured that you're all wasting your time on something that was so unimportant I don't even remember writing it. Way to go... I'm glad I enriched your internet lives.

:P

[Séguin]

I just love this bored because almost everyone on it is a complete moron. Its hours of endless entertainment! That's my motivation.

[Skitzo_Style]

Originally Posted by FireWire

Do you see US (the people that like hardcore such as myself, Peppertree, b0ld, etc.) going online and bashing YOUR style of music?

1.) I don't care if you like my music or not, nor do i care if you bash it. it's you opinion and you are entitled to it (just as i am entitled to mine).

Originally Posted by FireWire

Does FireWire, Peppertree and b0ld ever make posts saying that drum n' bass, breaks, house, electro, funky, progressive, trance, hard trance, hard house are SHITTY?

2.) i do not care if you do not like drum and bass or not. if you wanna call hard house, trance, hard trance, progressive, etc. shitty go right ahead. i'm with you there.

Originally Posted by FireWire

Do we say that dnb isn't even music? Do you see the ever-so-low 3% of hardcore lovers show disrespect to your 97% of dnb and house lovers? Just because you are the majority, it doesn't mean you have the power to call a genre "not music".

3.) i do not say this cause Dnb is the majority genre(which it is not, trance and house is) , i say this because i firmly believe that hardcore in all forms is not music but cluttered fucking noise.

Originally Posted by FireWire

Learn some common respect. Get an open-mind. Being close-minded like that just shows what kind of a person you are ......

4.) i like how you have the ability to read someone's character profile just by reading their opinion on a music genre on a fucking website. shows just how open minded you are and how open minded we can all become

Originally Posted by FireWire

And before you go on accussing me of liking only hardcore, I'll just say that I like a lot of different music:

5.) when the fuck did i say that you hardcore kids only like hardcore? for fuck sakes, give you fucking heads a shake!

you trying to make me out to be this bad guy by putting words in my mouth and calling "closed minded". all i did was express that i think hardcore is fucking whack, and that it is pointless to expect people to KNOW THE DIFFERENCE (not "like", "KNOW THE DIFFERENCE!!!") between hardcore and happy hardcore.

i have friends that like hardcore and hhc, and i make fun of them for liking the music and they could not give a shit less.

so my question to you is: why do you care so much?

[Séguin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1smkso14bZo

That's a recent party. Usually about 20 thousand people show up to events like this. Hardcore is pop music in some parts of the world.
And now, I rest my case.

[Hero.Skye]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Um, hell no. Hardcore sucks, I have always thought so.
I wouldn't call it "music" bc to me it just sounds like disorganized NOISE.

you remind me of my cousin when i played him a full range of trance and he still said it all sounded the same. just might seem you havent had heard enough to judge, dont ya think?

[Hero.Skye]

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

it's not about that matt.

it's about the fact that only 3% of the rave scene in van listens to that music.

so to be asking the other 97% to know and understand the difference between hardcore and happy hardcore is retarded and completly absured.

fascinating! where do you get your statistics?

[Skitzo_Style]

Originally Posted by Hero.Skye

fascinating! where do you get your statistics?

a personal analysis from the years i have been going to raves.

why do you ask? do you have a credible source that will prove me wrong?

if so, please post it.

[Skitzo_Style]

Originally Posted by Hero.Skye

you remind me of my cousin when i played him a full range of trance and he still said it all sounded the same. just might seem you havent had heard enough to judge, dont ya think?

your cousin is right.

[Skitzo_Style]

Originally Posted by Séguin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1smkso14bZo

That's a recent party. Usually about 20 thousand people show up to events like this. Hardcore is pop music in some parts of the world.
And now, I rest my case.

i'm just glad that isn't anywhere close to me.

i feel sorry for every person in that building.

poor souls. :(

[zarlon]

^ heh, the reason why i don't ever come out anymore.

where is all the diversity? seems like it lost the war against persecution.

[Skitzo_Style]

how does persecution play a role in this? if it did, the genre would be completly gone in vancouver (but it hasn't......yet).

[project.one]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Um, hell no. Hardcore sucks, I have always thought so.
I wouldn't call it "music" bc to me it just sounds like disorganized NOISE.

Your entitled to your opinion, just as I find Rap, HipHop, Country, all sounds like its just one big Pop Genre to me.

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

a personal analysis from the years i have been going to raves.

So youve been partying for a long time, but if you havent looked for other styles, how do you know? If you've never tasted something, how do you know you dont like it kinda thing? Not saying you should try and form of Hardstyle, just if youve never looked for the events, how do you know?
Ive been going to events for over a decade now, And I highly doubt that its only 3%!

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

i'm just glad that isn't anywhere close to me.

Its closer then you think. Lots of Hardcore/Hardstyle events are in the Ontario area!

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

i feel sorry for every person in that building.
poor souls. :(

Kinda like how I feel sorry for narrow minded people who will like breaks only and have nothing better but to rag and put down house and/or other styles! I know what you mean!

Originally Posted by zarlon

where is all the diversity? seems like it lost the war against persecution.

There doesnt have to be diversity. This is a stupid thread that is going now where and is very useless as like most of these threads on FnK are!

You cant expect everyone to listen to everything, but I wish people would at least acept that there are other styles and everyone has different tastes.

This thread is lame

Its just the same thing over and over again. But keep arguing! Maybe youll make some kind of breakthrough!

[Hero.Skye]

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

a personal analysis from the years i have been going to raves.

why do you ask? do you have a credible source that will prove me wrong?

if so, please post it.

you seem a bit stressed taking on most people in this thread, take a break. go jerk off.

[Séguin]

Breaks? Shouldn't that only belong in action sequences?

[Skitzo_Style]

Originally Posted by projectone

Your entitled to your opinion, just as I find Rap, HipHop, Country, all sounds like its just one big Pop Genre to me.



So youve been partying for a long time, but if you havent looked for other styles, how do you know? If you've never tasted something, how do you know you dont like it kinda thing? Not saying you should try and form of Hardstyle, just if youve never looked for the events, how do you know?
Ive been going to events for over a decade now, And I highly doubt that its only 3%!



Its closer then you think. Lots of Hardcore/Hardstyle events are in the Ontario area!



Kinda like how I feel sorry for narrow minded people who will like breaks only and have nothing better but to rag and put down house and/or other styles! I know what you mean!



There doesnt have to be diversity. This is a stupid thread that is going now where and is very useless as like most of these threads on FnK are!

You cant expect everyone to listen to everything, but I wish people would at least acept that there are other styles and everyone has different tastes.

This thread is lame

Its just the same thing over and over again. But keep arguing! Maybe youll make some kind of breakthrough!

fine.

i accept hardcore. i accept it as a genre, as a form of music, and that it is not the same as happy hardcore. i don't like the music, i don't like the parties (yes matt, i have been to some in the time i have been going to raves), and i find it rediculous to expect people who no nothing about the music to know the difference between hardcore and happy hardcore (after all, that is what this thread was started about........)

call me narrow minded if you want, but at least i have a foundation for my arguement. you seem like a cool guy and i don't want to fight over this bullshit anymore (half of my bashing hardcore was just to get a rise out of peppertree anyway).

[project.one]

Originally Posted by Skitzo_Style

and i don't want to fight over this bullshit anymore

lol, were fighting?

i thought we just trying to see who can come up with cooler words in sentences :P