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This i like, since it's far more effective. I'm supporting it in full. 
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You think your dizzy now? Give er another week or so, when the pot starts to boil over. ^I hope youll be able to make it to work, no bus, no money, AAAAHHHHH!!!
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however, also take into account that there wont be any buses running on friday so if you dont have a car, enjoy hiking up the mountain from a skytrain station or paying for a taxi heh. (to get up to sfu that is)
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great, now i have to pay for parking
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Oct 19, 05
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I've been lurking on this thread for awhile, debating whether or not i want to contribute to this... I finally decided to voice my opinion on the matter... I understand what the teachers want, and yes, I believe that classes should be smaller, or at least more special needs teachers should be hired. However, I think the teachers could have gone about this a better way. You need to give a little to get what you want in return. Its either our taxes go up (Im kinda pissed off at the fact that my taxes go to teachers when I dont plan on having children, but thats another rant for later) or their wages go down so that more teachers can be hired.
I gradutated in 2000 from Max Cameron in Powell River, and all through school, from kindergarten to grade 12 I have always had 30+ students in my class. I graduated with straight As (I hated school so I decided not to continue to college or university). In September 2001 Max Cameron Secondary School had to close, along with a few elementary schools due to not enough students to fill classes. Students have been transferred to Brooks Secondary School (did u know that Brooks was built to be either a mall or school? a couple million dollars of your taxes went there...BTW). Which leads me to believe that due to unnecessary costs the teachers will not get pay raises, as well as a lot of the older schools do need to be renovated, so the teachers need to negotiate with those costs as well. In my opinion, you cant have it all, its one or the other, not both. I think that students are being held hostage, especially the grade 12s. Some of them have exams coming up in January, some of them only one semester classes that they may have to take during the summer or next year to grad. As well as the younger students that are loving that they dont have to go to school, and dont understand why the teachers are on strike. And a lot of them that are being told whats going on are only getting one side of the story.... kind of like brainwashing? And some of the "troubled" students are learning that the only way to get things are to "go on strike". not all of these kids are going to grow up and be part of a union where you can vote to strike. Especially since this is an illegal strike, its almost like telling kids that "hey, if you dont like what you're getting, then dont do it at all then cause a temper tantrum." I'd probably have more support for the teachers if this wasnt an illegal strike.... everyone else has to abide by the law, why cant they? I dont understand why BC transit in Nanaimo went on strike.... seriously, even when their service is up and running, its still punishment.... Anyways, go ahead and rip up one side of me and then another 'cause this post is based on my opinion and NOT facts. eat me alive damnit!
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Oct 19, 05
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THIS FRIDAY!!! Although its not 100% the lower mainland plans to have its general strike this Friday. Other general strikes are happening in certain areas today and tomorro. Therefore I sugest to be prepared for a general strike this Friday. Study for that mid term... and if you have one on Friday I sugest studdying for it as well. If you want the latest up date... watch the news at 11pm and early in the morning to make sure.
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Oct 19, 05
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what do you do at sfu?
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Oct 20, 05
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But realistically, students were already held hostage, and this current situation, however "painful" or "inconvenient" is the expression of enough is enough. This strike action isn’t only about wages, class sizes, and all the other reasons however minor, its about a people who are oppressed. Illegal strike? Law is created to protect the public, These current "laws" that are being "broken" serve no one other than the government, and governmental bodies. How can one profess to support the people on strike, and in the same line, turn around and throw loaded terms like ones pertaining to legality. The law was illegal in the first place. Its not and never was, put in place to hold some societal stability, it chipped away at it in the first place. "teachers" "students" they’re all getting repressed and oppressed, and we need to really, i mean really question who we have our allegiances with. I will stand beside any teacher, any health worker, hell, any telus employee, because they stand against the "ruling class" a small contingent of people, under frail masks of legitimacy and title, and hold you, me and all the union workers in check. The timeline is rushing towards an inevitable clash, between the ruling class, and everyone else, it’ll be an "us" and a "them" and whether you believe now or not, there will come a time when one has to choose. This situation is far larger than the "individual" its about reconnecting community, and taking back what we never had. There are two sides ,and only one truth, which one will YOU choose? Quote:
We all need to get over ourselves, and unite, and then hold the common enemy accountable. There schools striking on the island, because they support, and understand the significance of the REAL struggle, like so many peoples around the globe. Pull off the blinders, and stand the fuck up. If you play the part of victim, then a victim you will always be. We are all struggling in one way or another, and yet we announce that we have it so good, and we have so many freedoms WTF!?! What we HAVE is commodities, and material goods, that sedate us, and render us docile. IM sure you care kit, but your arguments(sorry your opinions) are at heart, selfish, close minded, and misdirected. IM sorry I couldn’t sugar coat it for you, but the striking workers of BC are not the enemy, they are striking AGAINST the enemy - figure this out, and do it quick, because this is bigger than both of us. As far as your comment about "students are learning that the only way to solve things is go on strike" all I could do was shake my head, and offer the following – people go on strike because there was NO entertaining negotiations! They go on strike because the only other solution would be violence or WAR. Question your perception action+mobilization fable
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Oct 20, 05
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aha awesome now on to the utopia!
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Oct 20, 05
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but if the teachers wages are increased they are still going to bitch about class size.. and if you hire more teachers so there can be more classes and less students in them, then you cant raise their wages... do you know much of an impact that would have on our taxes? it wouldnt be just a few $$, but to increase it to say $5-10 more than what Im already paying?! I Dunno about u, but i have rent and bills i have to pay, I barely scrape thru with $10/hr, full time 40+ hours a week. What about ppl that make minimum wage? why should their paychecks go to taxes to pay for teachers when the majority of ppl on minimum wage are younger (under 30) and dont even have kids.
anyways, my posts are based on opinion, not in facts, therefore it is not "argument" since arguments that are politically based are usually based on facts. Im not selfish for my opinion since I DO pay taxes and I DO have to rely on the transit system to go to work (you cant tell your employer "sorry i cant come to work todday because i cant get theree because transit went on strike).... in my opinion, transit has no reason to bitch, really... they only need a high school diploma and air brakes and can make 10X more than i make. (or more, I dont have numbers in front of me, and i dont want to look em up). anyways, im going to work.
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I don’t need call down your intelligence or character. I’m not trying to alienate you either. I have to respect and love you, regardless of your opinion - that is a unspoken law for me, so if you feel threatened, or put down, then many apologies MissMyra. Me writing in response, is not a direct attack on you personally, please understand this. BUT if you come on this board, and share your opinion I’m going to be there to respond. It is not just about education, its about STOPPIN THE MISEDUCATION. I didn’t start this post, nor where any of my posts proactive, they were REACTIVE to the likes of yours, and others. It is of my opinion, that YOU are irrelevant, as so am I, its the movement for change, that is a paramount. Its not you personally that I fight, its the illusions that circle around you, out of sight, out of mind. Wages? Class sizes? Statistics? This happens all the time? What do unions do for me? The government is just and fair? I’m not arguing that you may or may not have the "facts" I’m arguing against the "facts themselves" I don’t need to undermine your intelligence, your doing a good enough job yourself. Wake up Myra, wake up from your coma, its not out of hate that I say these words, its out of love and respect. Its the illusions that I will fight dirty with, not you or anyone else. The illusion and the illusionists, will be brought down, Just be sure not to still be under their power, when they are. "lest you die in your blissful slumber, all the while, the fight, the real fight battles asunder" Myra I don’t EVER need to play the ignorance card, its does well enough on its own playing you- "I had an excellent point" but it doesn’t change a fucking change. action+mobilization shak
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I dont need to give you what i make or dont make,how many hours i work, or dont work(although when i was still a sous chef it was closer to 65) but this is the irrelevency! I know your probably struggling, without even really knowing you, so why would you choose to continue spining your wheels? You work hard, your not lazy, your an intelligent young women who wants a better life for herself, so think smarter, look at the bigger picture. Im younger than 30, i dont have kids, im not even in a Union. IRRELEVANT. Im a working schmo, and a student who understands that when an oppurtunity is created where many people in the genral populace are rallying against an oppresion of any sort, it is my duty as fucking human to support. Cupe members understand this, HEU memebes understand this,TWU understands this, and the list grows everyday. This isnt a mob mentality, its communities in action! Quote:
Share all the opinion you want, and believe me when i tell you, that so will i. action+mobilization shak
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I heard on the radio this morning that there will be a gerneal CUPE strike tmrw. That includes EAs/TAs/CAs/SEAs (we're already not working and picketing at this point)and clerical staff, as well as custodians, sanitation, etc. Protest rallies are also taking place at PNE @ 10am and in Cloverdale @ 1pm. TRANSIT WILL STILL BE RUNNING AND IS NOT A PART OF THIS STRIKE, as far as Friday is concerned. Quote:
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Or maybe you mean the government, in which case, I agree with you.
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I don't give a fuck what happens, I'm done with school, but i'm not done with transit and if those cocksuckers go on strike in support of the a.d.d handlers, i'm going to strike them with bottles at the picket line to show my support for me.
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did transit strike then? I heard rumors at the coffee shop in BBY this morning...
.. and when I got to work, had to cancel all appointments, cause my business is in the the local rec centre -> which is also on strike today... as much as this is kind of a pain in the ass for me/my business - this is just what it takes for the govt to listen up. crazy. I'm gonna go check if they have donuts.
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