Beardo Disco

[tiedye]

It was the one that I swore an oath to own by the end of the week. I'll check that one out regardless.

It's my fault for forgetting. Somehow you managed to send the track name and artists to me on MSN before passing out and I, in my drunken stupor, read it and closed it under the assumption that I would remember in the morning.

[tiedye]

Maybe I'll just offer Farshad my first born child in exchange for his italo collection.

[Wood]

ahhh, i curse myself for never ripping this Marley Marl CD that had that Loose Joints tune on it... came with an un-mixed 2nd CD that had the full version. It's not hard to find on wax tho, it's been repressed recently along with most of the west side records back catalogue

Loose Joints

[ebbomega]

I messaged you whilst drunk because I knew once I sobered up I'd have no clue which one it was.

Anyways, here's some stuff that gets regular play at Laser Dance and is thus worthy of your perusal

Bobby Orlando - Passion
Giorgio Moroder - The Chase
The Human League - The Things That Dreams Are Made Of

just to start

[tiedye]

It wasn't the Loose Joints track, but it's definitely going to be added to my collection.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by inside

It just seems this berdo disco crap was put upon us by the lame hippsters who work at Zulu.

......

[decypher]

Originally Posted by cubed

You're right in the fact that it's already begun.

The Guns & Bombs set at Celebs a while back had a bunch of it smattered through out it.

lol, i remember the disgusted look on Blake's face when the diva stuff came on.

[cubed]

Originally Posted by decypher

lol, i remember the disgusted look on Blake's face when the diva stuff came on.

Blake just doesn't get it yet, he will.

[inside]

Beardo disco is so cool that this thread is the 4th hit on google.

beardo disco - Google Search

[Wood]

douchebag - Google Search

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by inside

Beardo disco is so cool that this thread is the 4th hit on google.

beardo disco - Google Search

Sorry, I didn't realize that music had to be popular to be good.

[inside]

Originally Posted by Wood

douchebag - Google Search

I'm never going to voice an opionon ever again on this board reguarding music I'm not into.

Either I like it or I don't.

Krafty's Fabric cd is sick and fresh.

Plump Dj's track System Addict is amazing and very fresh.

Freq Nasty, is not the best breaks dude, his tracks are usually pretty simple, almost like dnb wobblers most the time.

[Wood]

there's a difference between voicing an opinion, and being a douche. trying to impune a genre for it's lack of google presence is pure douchebaggery.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by inside

I'm never going to voice an opionon ever again on this board reguarding music I'm not into.

Either I like it or I don't.

Krafty's Fabric cd is sick and fresh.

Plump Dj's track System Addict is amazing and very fresh.

Freq Nasty, is not the best breaks dude, his tracks are usually pretty simple, almost like dnb wobblers most the time.

There's a difference between stating an opinion and ignorantly blasting an entire genre of music because it takes its roots in something old. I can't think of a single style of music that isn't just a re-hash of another style that is ten+ years older than it. Metric even wrote a song about just that.

Krafty's fabriclive is a year old, btw. Oh, and they use The Message's a capella in there, which is about as old as this beardo stuff.

Maelstrom? Aquasky? Freestylers? Christ, it's like I'm checking out a Soma mix from 2004.

I'm not saying your taste is poor - I personally love krafty. But you're cloistering your mind from discovering new different styles of music because you're stuck in a preconceived notion of "what's new", and it seems you have been stuck in that notion for about half a decade. I got news for ya kid, times change and music changes with it. People have moved on. Most of what's coming out of breaks these days anyways is just re-hashed dirty electrohouse with a breakbeat instead of a four-on-the-floor beat (christ, Stanton Warriors made an entire career out of remixing tracks by just replacing the house beat with a break and changing nothing else).

[inside]

Having roots in somthing old is not a bad thing. I'm glad that djs, producers, and fans have figured out some of the old sounds are pretty sweet, getting away from hoover, reese, detutuned trance leads. But playing old tracks is def not my thing, old tracks usually have pretty poor sound quality, and poor engineering. We know alot more today about engineering then we did a decade or 3 ago. I'm going to take the time now to thank drum and bass for pushing production/engineering quality to what it is today.

Originally Posted by ebbomega

There's a difference between stating an opinion and ignorantly blasting an entire genre of music because it takes its roots in something old. I can't think of a single style of music that isn't just a re-hash of another style that is ten+ years older than it. Metric even wrote a song about just that.

Krafty's fabriclive is a year old, btw. Oh, and they use The Message's a capella in there, which is about as old as this beardo stuff.

Maelstrom? Aquasky? Freestylers? Christ, it's like I'm checking out a Soma mix from 2004.

I'm not saying your taste is poor - I personally love krafty. But you're cloistering your mind from discovering new different styles of music because you're stuck in a preconceived notion of "what's new", and it seems you have been stuck in that notion for about half a decade. I got news for ya kid, times change and music changes with it. People have moved on. Most of what's coming out of breaks these days anyways is just re-hashed dirty electrohouse with a breakbeat instead of a four-on-the-floor beat (christ, Stanton Warriors made an entire career out of remixing tracks by just replacing the house beat with a break and changing nothing else).

[inside]

Originally Posted by Wood

there's a difference between voicing an opinion, and being a douche. trying to impune a genre for it's lack of google presence is pure douchebaggery.

Just getting agressive on the point I was trying to make. I wanted to research this stuff a bit more. I was just suprised, see how popular this sound is that this thread was the fourth hit.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by inside

Having roots in somthing old is not a bad thing. I'm glad that djs, producers, and fans have figured out some of the old sounds are pretty sweet, getting away from hoover, reese, detutuned trance leads. But playing old tracks is def not my thing, old tracks usually have pretty poor sound quality, and poor engineering. We know alot more today about engineering then we did a decade or 3 ago. I'm going to take the time now to thank drum and bass for pushing production/engineering quality to what it is today.

Um.

Okay.

DnB is what pushed engineering to where it is today.

Right.

Anyways, hoovers and detuned trance leads? Seriously man, have you left the house since 2002?

Anyways, Beardo isn't _just_ about playing old tracks. It's about infusion of the old with the new. Neighbour came out and played at Laser Dance this week and he was pumping out a ton of new stuff. Feathers Of Lead is a fantastic local italo band all pushing out new music.

Also:



You remind me a lot of the electro detractors that couldn't help but scream how useless they thought Miss Kittin or LCD Soundsystem were back in 2002. Well, back then what was happening was all the electroclash was being mixed in with the old Bambaataa, Cybotron, etc. forms of electro. Then all of a sudden in 2005 or 2006, everybody and their dog is playing some spawn of electroclash.

Giorgio Moroder has been rocking dancefloors for the last 30 years, and the music will continue to. Again, you're discounting music because it's old. Old doesn't mean worse, it just means that the artists had to be more creative with the tools they had available at the time in order to produce the sounds they wanted to.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by inside

We know alot more today about engineering then we did a decade or 3 ago. I'm going to take the time now to thank drum and bass for pushing production/engineering quality to what it is today.

3 decades ago albums like goodbye yellow brick road, and darkside of the moon were released.

[inside]

Originally Posted by Revolver

3 decades ago albums like goodbye yellow brick road, and darkside of the moon were released.

Yeah, but I bet they would sound just that much better had they been made now. Why do we do remixes of old tracks? To make them sound better ( and give it another artistic interpritation)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by inside

Yeah, but I bet they would sound just that much better had they been made now. Why do we do remixes of old tracks? To make them sound better

I've heard plenty of remixes that are complete ass compared to the original source.

Nice stealth edit, though.

[inside]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Um.

Okay.

DnB is what pushed engineering to where it is today.

Right.

Anyways, hoovers and detuned trance leads? Seriously man, have you left the house since 2002?

I like how you left out the reese.

Dude try producing a techy dnb track. YOU CAN'T! Wobblers on the other hand....

[inside]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

I've heard plenty of remixes that are complete ass compared to the original source.

Nice stealth edit, though.

musicaly, maybe, sonicaly, I doubt it.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by inside

musicaly, maybe, sonicaly, I doubt it.

You must not listen to a lot of remixes. Go dig through a record bin for a few hours, come back and make that assertion.

One of the best things about old songs is finding those gems that still sound like they were produced yesterday. That is called "staying power" and it's one of the main things that separates the really quality music from the beatport track-of-the-week.

On another forum someone pointed out to me that Missy Elliot's Lose Control was pretty much her rapping on top of Cybotron's Clear, a track that was produced in the 80s. That song hit it huge despite not being changed or remixed at all from its original source. Just included rapping and another 80s sample.

The entire genre of hip-hop came from old records. No retouching or remastering to increase production value, just DJs beat juggling breaks from old funk, soul, rock n roll, jazz records to make a new song.

So while production techniques may have evolved and gotten more and more refined, don't you find it interesting that a whole slew of producers are still using the same break from Amen Brother to do their main drum riffs? Don't you think that says something about that track's viability across decades of use? Should we discard the entire James Brown catalog simply because the source material is old? How does that make sense?

[benyamean]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Most of what's coming out of breaks these days anyways is just re-hashed dirty electrohouse with a breakbeat instead of a four-on-the-floor beat (christ, Stanton Warriors made an entire career out of remixing tracks by just replacing the house beat with a break and changing nothing else).

Haha.. quite true. Except a lot of what is coming out doesn't even have a proper break, most is a 4 to the floor or a slight variant, possesing a strong crossover appeal. Ya need to syncopate to have an effective breakbeat in my opinion.

[inside]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

You must not listen to a lot of remixes. Go dig through a record bin for a few hours, come back and make that assertion.

One of the best things about old songs is finding those gems that still sound like they were produced yesterday. That is called "staying power" and it's one of the main things that separates the really quality music from the beatport track-of-the-week.

On another forum someone pointed out to me that Missy Elliot's Lose Control was pretty much her rapping on top of Cybotron's Clear, a track that was produced in the 80s. That song hit it huge despite not being changed or remixed at all from its original source. Just included rapping and another 80s sample.

The entire genre of hip-hop came from old records. No retouching or remastering to increase production value, just DJs beat juggling breaks from old funk, soul, rock n roll, jazz records to make a new song.

So while production techniques may have evolved and gotten more and more refined, don't you find it interesting that a whole slew of producers are still using the same break from Amen Brother to do their main drum riffs? Don't you think that says something about that track's viability across decades of use? Should we discard the entire James Brown catalog simply because the source material is old? How does that make sense?

Good work=) not sarcastic at all=)
You made a good point. I do like alot of sample based hip hop. But I find that with say dnb or breaks, alot of the time your layering up your breaks and doing a ton of editing and resampling, unlike alot of hip hop which just uses the break plain and with minimal processing.

I still find that most of the retro stuff in Beardo still is lame and shitty sounding.