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Oct 23, 06
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Adoption & Celebrities
Don't even get me started on how much of a media stunt I think this has been since the days of Mia Farrow...
But I think what irritates me more than Angelina and Brad's "we're parents to the world" scheme is the one that Madonna is about to go though... Christ, at least Tom & Nicole didn't make a big scene about their adopted kids... there weren't even photographed til a few years before Tom and Nicole's divorce All personal feelings aside for Madonna and Guy Ritchie, the father of the boy they had recently adopted has just admited that he only realizes now what the term "adoption" means... Quote:
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Celebrities need to stop using foreign children as fashion accessories, a way to gain the puplic eye... Thre's not a doubt in my mind that Mia, Nicole, Angelina & Madge all would raise their adopted children as their own, love and nuture them the way any parent would... But if you really are that good of a person and you want to help some child in a third world counrty, you don't need to tell the media your plans to adopt... just do it already. taken from here 
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Oct 23, 06
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Honestly now.
Who really cares?
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Oct 23, 06
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Are you serious?
Madonna is taking a child out of poverty and filth..and is going to give him the best possible life. The media stalks celebrities..the media knows things about celebrities before there own family gets told.. I dont believe Madonna, or Angelina used adoption as a way to get attention. I believe they both love children, and are doing a wonderful thing. Its people who obsess about movie stars that cause all this drama.. They are real people..let them live there lives.
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Oct 23, 06
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would everyone just shut up about all this. just because they are celebrities doesn't automatically mean that everything they do is self-serving and terrible.
adoption is adoption is adoption. yeah, madonna is a rich and famous lady, but does that really mean anything in this situation? if she wants to adopt someone she has just as much a right as anyone else. it really pisses me off how as soon as anyone with money does anything like this or donates to charity or speaks out against AIDS that people get all huffy about it. i think it was matt damon that said something like: if you can't use celebrity for things like this, then what is it good for? i think that's a good point. if i was famous you better believe i would be using it to promote causes and be political.
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Oct 23, 06
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I think it is fantastic that she is doing this. Like said previously, people like Madonna live in a glass box, their entire lives is on display, and most often it is up to the journalist ( i use that term lightly) to decipher what is going on, because the famous peeps are not going to just fill everyone in on the info themselves. It is tabloid trash. And i'm not just talking about Star the actual tabloids here. And did you ever think that maybe they tell the press about this stuff to get exposure for the cause, to put the word out that orphan children are abundant and need help? I highly doubt that people such as Madonna want the amount of attention they receive.
Also, i think what the father meant in him saying that his son would return to them is that once he is older and educated he would return to his home and do good. Once he is an adult and can make his own decisions.
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Oct 23, 06
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I think its a great thing that these people are doing...
I mean some can wonder what the real motives are, but no matter how you think fact is fact, these children are getting a chance to have a great upbrining, loving parents, and a shot at life. I think its sad that the dad did not understand, but it sickens me to think he would rather his little boy be in an orphange that is probally not clean, and not a healthy place. I understand how hard it must be to give your child up, but in a sense he had already done that.
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Oct 23, 06
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I really don't see why a celebrity has any less of a right to adopt a child than anybody else.
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Oct 23, 06
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Everyone has the right to adopt in a sane mind
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Oct 23, 06
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Maybe the orphanage should get numberd shirts for the children.
Then when the next, fading out, celebrity comes along they could all run in a circle so the celeb could pick the best looking specimen. After all these children are just cattle aren't they? And if you need to pick some cattle to look cool and caring in the eyes of Hollywood who could possible look down at that?
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Oct 23, 06
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Oct 23, 06
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Who cares where there from why cant people look at this as a good thing.
Why cant the father do the dame. I was adopted as my birth mother couldnt give me the life she wanted for me and there for gave me up. Same with my brother. His mom was a 14 year old girl who met a guy slept with him a few times and got pregnant. Didnt talk to him after till my brother chose to meet them both. I cant imagine how hard it would be to give up my own child, but by leaving your child in an orphanage havent you already given it up already. This must be the most heart renching thing for someone but usually they put the child first. My parents arent celebrities and im not from africa but adoption is adoption. It doesnt mean they will love the child less because they are famous.
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Oct 23, 06
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you're just all in a huff because it's some celebrity adopting a third world kid. no one would care if it was a celebrity adopting a Canadian or American or British kid...maybe that reflects poorly on you and the media for making it into a big deal, not the celebrity. are people not allowed to adopt kids from poor countries? or is it just celebrities that aren't allowed because they're rich and fabulous and must have alternative motives (because no one that is famous has a heart, right?)
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Oct 23, 06
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Flat out:
Anyone that speaks out against a child being taken from abject poverty and given a chance at having not just a good life but having a life at all, WAKE THE FUCK UP. What do you think would happen if these children were left at these orphanages? Eventually they'll get too old to be there, be kicked out and be forced to live on the street. What happens then? If they're lucky they can scrape by on a meager existance living on the waste of others who don't have much more than they do. If they're not, they wind up committing crimes, prostituting themselves, most likely winding up with AIDS or some other horrible disease. Yeah. That's WAY worse than being adopted by a celebrity. 
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Oct 23, 06
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I dont believe for a second that the father is concerned he will never see his child again. Im sure its heart wrenching to see your child adopted by another family, but im sure he understands how amazing it is for his son. Im sure the media is just twisting shit around, trying to make madonna look horrible, and this man (WHO LEFT HIS CHILD AT AN ORPHANAGE BECAUSE HE COULD NOT CARE FOR HIM) look betrayed.
Seriously, some people need to think before they make stupid posts. Not only are you following gossip, but your also being extrememly ignorant.
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Oct 23, 06
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/...entry_id=10135 Father Claims Madonna Adoption Wasn't Explained to Him The father of the 13-month-old Malawian boy adopted by Madonna claims he had no idea he was sending his son "away for good" and if he had known he would never have agreed to the adoption. Yohane Banda, 32, says local officials in Malawi never properly explained the procedure to him and he thought the pop superstar would only be looking after his son David during his education. Madonna and her husband Guy Ritchie were granted interim adoption of 13-month-old David Banda last Tuesday. But Yohane, who is illiterate, said yesterday, "I was never told that adoption means that David will no longer be my son ... If I was told this, I would not have allowed the adoption. "I want more clarification on the adoption. I would prefer that David goes back to the orphanage where I can see him any time I want, rather than send him away for good. "I cannot read or write so I relied on what (government) officials told me, that the papers said Madonna would look after the child the way the orphanage planned to educate him. "What we agreed with Madonna was that she looks after my child until he finishes school and becomes independent. Then he comes back to me." Last week, the Malawian human rights group protesting against the adoption had its lawsuit deferred until this coming Friday. The Human Rights Consultative Committee wants a judge to impose an injunction to ensure Madonna and Ritchie return to Malawi in order to go through complete adoption checks. The group believe Madonna whisked the child back to London before the procedure could be undertaken, and reportedly took advice from a Californian adoption agency in a bid to dodge strict UK measures. They too claim Yohane was unaware of the logistics of the situation when he allowed his child to be taken to Britain. http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/...,00.html?f=rss Dad: I Didn't Understand Updated: 13:52, Sunday October 22, 2006 The father of the baby boy Madonna wants to adopt has claimed he never intended his son to be adopted by the pop star - only for her to raise the child on his behalf. His comments add a fresh twist to the saga that has gripped world attention over recent weeks. Yohane Banda says he had no idea Madonna wanted to fully adopt his 13-month-old son David. "Had they told us that Madonna wanted to adopt my son and make him her own son, we would not have agreed to that," he said. Mr Banda added: "I cannot read and write so I relied on what the (government) officials told me that the papers said Madonna would look after the child the way the orphanage planned to educate him and then he comes back to me." Asked if he had any copies of the agreements he signed with Madonna, Mr Banda said: "I am still waiting to get my copies." Madge heads for the gym Speaking from his home town of Lipunga, he told Reuters that Madonna had asked that she be able to raise his one-year-old son on his behalf, rather than the child becoming her own. "It would have been better for him to continue staying at the orphanage because I see no reason why my child should be given away forever when I can feed him," he said. His statement is a major shift from his earlier remarks when he railed against human rights groups that have gone to court to stop the star from adopting his son. Madonna released a statement earlier this week saying she was amazed at the amount of criticism levelled at her over the adoption. And she has also insisted that she has acted entirely within the law to "help one child escape an extreme life of hardship". On Friday, the High Court in Lilongwe will begin hearing a case lodged by the Human Rights Consultative Committee (HRCC), an alliance of 67 human rights groups, which argues current Malawi laws forbid international adoption, even by celebrities. . Last edited by stephen_c; Oct 23, 06 at 11:44 PM.
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Oct 24, 06
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Oct 24, 06
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Oct 24, 06
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honestly, i dont think celebrities should procreate, muchless adopt other children. they dont have the time and effort to raise a child. sure, that orphan is going to "have a better life", if you call having money as a better life. but he wont know what unconditional love is compared to what his birth parents gave him (after all, his real dad put him in an orphanage so he could get food, more than what he could provide, yet still be able to see him). Poor kid now is going to be dragged from gig to gig or spend numerous hours being raised by a nanny.. as well as every footstep being followed by the media... sounds like a great childhood to me... edit: I want to add: I think in this case, the best thing Madonna could have done was to give the family $$ in order to survive a bit better and not rip a family apart. Last edited by kittah; Oct 24, 06 at 09:23 AM.
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Oct 24, 06
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the truth is that celebrities could provide a home with just as much love and care as a non-famous person...you have no idea.
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