PROSTITUTION through Craig's List, how is this legal?

[Carrie]

it's all about the good ol' fashioned way..

get one off a street corner, support the neighbourhood

[Ista]

and your local Pimp's Association.

[Antenna_Boy]

If those prosititues can afford to post online about their services, I hope they make enough money by doing so in order to fund their AIDS prescription drugs they will have to be on for the rest of their lives in the future. :mexitoke:

[*SunShyne*]

^^^ not every whore out there has AIDS or an STD... there are some out there who act as a professional escort and make a damn nice living out of it too. These are the men and women who have standards when going on a "date" with a client, and take care of their bodies....getting checked regularly and so on.

While it may be the oldest profession in the book, it really isn't what it used to be... it's just the bad apples (the DTES ones) who ruin it for a lot of people

Also, the majority of these postings are done on free sites, like Craigslist for example... so it's not about having the cash to post online about your services.

[fable]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

it's just the bad apples (the DTES ones) who ruin it for a lot of people

Did you come up with this one all by yourself?

[robyn]

Personally, I hate a whore without standards.

[*SunShyne*]

Originally Posted by fable

Did you come up with this one all by yourself?

You know, I am still trying to figure out what I said that made you write that... I don't understand how writing "dtes" and "bad apples" in the same phrase would warrent a response like that.

[fable]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

You know, I am still trying to figure out what I said that made you write that... I don't understand how writing "dtes" and "bad apples" in the same phrase would warrent a response like that.

While it may be the oldest profession in the book, it really isn't what it used to be... it's just the bad apples (the DTES ones) who ruin it for a lot of people

Think about it.

[*SunShyne*]

do you have a point here?

I'm really wondering... I don't see anything wrong with what I wrote.

[fable]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

do you have a point here?

I'm really wondering... I don't see anything wrong with what I wrote.

While it may be the oldest profession in the book, it really isn't what it used to be... it's just the bad apples (the DTES ones) who ruin it for a lot of people

a) Prostitution is not a "profession"
b) "...oldest profession in the book" is cliche, probably orginally written by a man
c) "its just the bad apples (the dtes ones)" - What does this mean? Are you talking about the strung out, beat up, exploited, sick (mainly underage) girls and boys getting their bodies sold for drugs, shelter and even because in some sick way they feel loved? And somehow they are tarnishing your illusions of high end escorts? Escorts who somehow have it any better because they have some fraction of choice, or have nice bodies?

d) Who exactly is " a lot of people?" Is it just your fantasy of what high escorts are? Those of which you believe "make a damn nice living out of it too. These are the men and women who have standards when going on a "date" with a client, and take care of their bodies....getting checked regularly and so on."

Or is it also the johns who could give a shit about the story behind the pussy they pound for a few bills and then toss away?

You are either naive, cynical or have watched far too much movies in your life, because the idea of the "empowered, strong, healthy women" selling her ass for money is a myth probably made up by the fucked up men who purchase them. And the idea that DTES prostitutes are somehow in control of their lives, or are somehow the roots of larger problems is grossly misunderstood.

Dont make sweeping comments about situations. lives, environments that you have no intimate knowledge of. It is insulting and reactionary.

[*SunShyne*]

*****

[fable]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

you really missed my point entirely.

And I can't believe you broke down that entire sentance and wrote a paragraph about prostitutes...

You didnt have a point "hun" Your were talking out of your ass in an effort to be funny about things that are anything but, on a chatboard where you can be free to talk without reprecussion or responsibility. Have fun, make jokes, but temper such levity with a little understanding and compassion.

[rawb]

LISTEN I BUY A LOT OF SEX, DUE TO BOTH LACK OF TIME AND MY OVERBEARING PERSONALITY. ALSO MY YELLING. I CAN SAY WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT SUNSHYNE IS A GREAT VALUE.

[*jess*]

Sex is a commodity too, just like everything else on Craigslist.

[*SunShyne*]

Originally Posted by fable

a) Prostitution is not a "profession"

You're absolutely right... however, there are women (and men) out there who do make a modest living being an escort (big difference between prositute and escort - price, class, appearance, usually there is a dinner and such)

b) "...oldest profession in the book" is cliche, probably orginally written by a man

Are you an angry lesbian?

c) "its just the bad apples (the dtes ones)" - What does this mean? Are you talking about the strung out, beat up, exploited, sick (mainly underage) girls and boys getting their bodies sold for drugs, shelter and even because in some sick way they feel loved? And somehow they are tarnishing your illusions of high end escorts? Escorts who somehow have it any better because they have some fraction of choice, or have nice bodies?

Yes, it is the ones on the east side who are just whores. They are hookers. Mostly off have addictions or excessive baggage that got them into the whole scene in the first place. I wasn't denying the fact that they are hookers.... what's your problem here?

There is a very large difference between hookers and escorts... let's look at this from another point of view...

A business man is in town and has a function of some sort to go to. A date is not necessary, but would look good on his part if he showed up with a lady. Now, he can go to the one down at Main and Hastings and get a hooker, or he can hire an escort for an evening, who will show up sans track marks and more than likely bathed... has manners, is witty (I could go on...) etc.

Yes, this happens, I don't know how I can prove it to you, but you've got to be pretty naive if you believe this doesn't happen.

d) Who exactly is " a lot of people?" Is it just your fantasy of what high escorts are? Those of which you believe "make a damn nice living out of it too. These are the men and women who have standards when going on a "date" with a client, and take care of their bodies....getting checked regularly and so on."

Or is it also the johns who could give a shit about the story behind the pussy they pound for a few bills and then toss away?

You need to open your eyes and realize that there are men who will go back to the same escort, not just for corporate functions, but will also go back because of their class and style... escorts can be classy and can be down to earth, nice people.

You are either naive, cynical or have watched far too much movies in your life, because the idea of the "empowered, strong, healthy women" selling her ass for money is a myth probably made up by the fucked up men who purchase them. And the idea that DTES prostitutes are somehow in control of their lives, or are somehow the roots of larger problems is grossly misunderstood.

Dont make sweeping comments about situations. lives, environments that you have no intimate knowledge of. It is insulting and reactionary.

Never once did I say that those women in the DTES are in control... you're really stretching here...

The idea of high class escorts has never crossed your mind... never? really? wow. See, even I don't believe that. Not in a million years.

And to think this all started with me refering to the whores at the DTES as "bad apples"

Jesus man... you have too much time on your hands

[*SunShyne*]

Originally Posted by fable

You didnt have a point "hun" Your were talking out of your ass in an effort to be funny about things that are anything but, on a chatboard where you can be free to talk without reprecussion or responsibility. Have fun, make jokes, but temper such levity with a little understanding and compassion.

Yeah "hun" I did, and still do have a point....

And where are you getting this whole idea to be funny and make jokes and such about me?

If you want to debate something, be mature about it, and don't do a cheap cop out like that.

[dabbler]

I think this argument about the different types of whores (and defending one over the other) is hilarious.

[prozac]

Sunshyne, I really think the idea of high-class "escorts" who go out to dinner and engage in charming conversation with wealthy businessmen is a myth. There's just more expensive prostitutes. Same problems, different tax bracket.

[Senior]

Originally Posted by fable

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Well that's interesting and all... actually it's not.

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

Yeah "hun" I did, and still do have a point....

And where are you getting this whole idea to be funny and make jokes and such about me?

If you want to debate something, be mature about it, and don't do a cheap cop out like that.

I'd personally love it if you took your own advice on this one.

I'm not trying to be mean at all, I really think it's a great idea.


on an unrelated note, if you're looking at it from a perspective of what is tendered and what services are provided, there is no difference between an 'outer' circuit (ie streetwalker) and 'inner' circuit (ie escorts) woman who sells sex for a living. One is not a 'whore' and the other an 'escort' or 'prostitute', they're all the same thing selling the same thing, you're comparing apples to apples. That would be like saying you have more respect for a well off teenager working at safeway than a single mom who can barely scrape by doing the same thing. The logic doesn't make sense.

[fable]

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

Yeah "hun" I did, and still do have a point....

And where are you getting this whole idea to be funny and make jokes and such about me?

If you want to debate something, be mature about it, and don't do a cheap cop out like that.

Where was the immaturity you are talking about? And what exactly is the cheap cop out?

You were, (and still are) trying to make a distinction about an escort and a hooker (or a whore as you refer to them). You made a statement about how such "whores" somehow tarnish the good name that escorts may have. This train of thought is purely reactionary (in that it is ridiculous, isnt put into any specific context that actaully means something)

What do I know about hookers, whore, escorts whatever you would like to label them? That they are human beings in fucked up situations that your callousness may escape, but nonetheless real. I know that I have had close friends come close to violent deaths at the hands of nice little johns who took them out for dinner, railed back too much blow and then proceeded to beat the shit out of them because they couldnt even the slightest of hardons. I know that the list of names of hookers that I have know as a result of being a fucking junkie is slowly shortening as they die one by one. Yes the scrawny, baggage holding, tracks running up their arm, little dirty hookers that you somehow are on a different standing then your illusions of high priced escorts. It DOESNT FUCKING MATTER, theyre all in shitty situations.

And I know a backtracking little naive girl when I see one (or atleast when I read their writing) You assesment or comparison of who is who is based on NOTHING but movies, and second hand information. Escorts, whores, hookers, prostitutes whatever, are all in shitty situations. And your labelling of what is okay, and what isnt based on looks, money and dinner is BULLSHIT.

Angry lesbian? More generalization and stereotype? You are amazing!

[fable]

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Well that's interesting and all... actually it's not.

Why the need to pull out Jim Greens latest speech on poverty and (his)corruption in the DTES?

[BongMan]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

you're comparing apples to apples.

Idonno about but I've always preferred the Golden Delicious over the plain old McIntosh :P

[BongMan]

Originally Posted by fable

Angry lesbian? More generalization and stereotype? You are amazing!

Idonno you really do sound like a man hating angry lesbian sometimes

[fable]

Originally Posted by dabbler

I think this argument about the different types of whores (and defending one over the other) is hilarious.

I think its sad.