PROSTITUTION through Craig's List, how is this legal?

[P.A.R.T.Y]

I wrote this drunk. I made many mistakes while writing this. We are fighting Goldstein and the armies or Eurasia.
The point : I don't assume to know everything about prostitutes, but some of them are not drug-addicts, they have a choice and chose to sell their ass instead of finding a "day job." Prostitution is rampant in Thailand, it's everywhere, you can feel it on the street. It is a cultural phenomena, so I am being culturaly sensitive to my realtive position in their society by defending a system that seems to employ a great many people, albeit a typically horrible, disgusting, and degrading job.
Yes, I said, we need sex, we need boom boom, and it doesn't make you horrible to buy a prostitute. In retrospect, when you're drunk this is easy to say, but I still hold tightly to my cultural relativism arguement. We have no place to judge foreign cultures based on our western ideology. Some cultured persecute those who read Salman Rushdie, they chop your hand off for stealing, they kill the baby girls when they need more men. However, we are just as bad. We show sign of affection in public, we dare speak against our government.etc. Antenna Boy, you can not fight the whole worlds belief system, everyone sees things different, many people see things through a different shade of glass. Buying a prostitute is perfectly normal in Thailand, so is getting a massage, or drinking whiskey on the street with friends, etc.
BTW,Pedophilia is a death sentence is Thailand.
Fable, you seem like a good sort. Sorry for attacking you, I just saw that you were painting with some pretty broad strokes and I wanted you to respond.

[dabbler]

I barely know where to start with that. I can't believe someone (who I assume is from canada?) would even argue "However, we are just as bad." ?
LOL you can't be seriously comparing PDA's and democracy to killing baby girls and persecuting someone for reading a book.
If you don't see the difference, I will tell you...

Killing babies and persecuting someone for reading a book is enforcing your beliefs/needs/wants on someone else.
It is controlling someone ELSE, against their will.
(as to cutting off someone's hand, there's not much to argue with there, it's a punishment for a crime)
If you seriously think that those examples are comparable, then you need to think a little harder on it.
Forcing your beliefs on others comes from a communist or dictatorship way of thinking. A democracy allows you to have a choice.
Being ok with having someone else's ideas forced on you...well I guess it's possible some people might actually CHOOSE that.

If you are ok with having your personal freedom taken away, then by all means stay there. (or move to the US)

[robyn]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

I wrote this drunk. I made many mistakes while writing this. We are fighting Goldstein and the armies or Eurasia.
The point : I don't assume to know everything about prostitutes, but some of them are not drug-addicts, they have a choice and chose to sell their ass instead of finding a "day job." Prostitution is rampant in Thailand, it's everywhere, you can feel it on the street. It is a cultural phenomena, so I am being culturaly sensitive to my realtive position in their society by defending a system that seems to employ a great many people, albeit a typically horrible, disgusting, and degrading job.
Yes, I said, we need sex, we need boom boom, and it doesn't make you horrible to buy a prostitute. In retrospect, when you're drunk this is easy to say, but I still hold tightly to my cultural relativism arguement. We have no place to judge foreign cultures based on our western ideology. Some cultured persecute those who read Salman Rushdie, they chop your hand off for stealing, they kill the baby girls when they need more men. However, we are just as bad. We show sign of affection in public, we dare speak against our government.etc. Antenna Boy, you can not fight the whole worlds belief system, everyone sees things different, many people see things through a different shade of glass. Buying a prostitute is perfectly normal in Thailand, so is getting a massage, or drinking whiskey on the street with friends, etc.
BTW,Pedophilia is a death sentence is Thailand.
Fable, you seem like a good sort. Sorry for attacking you, I just saw that you were painting with some pretty broad strokes and I wanted you to respond.

btw how many thai prostitutes do you suppose are underage.

sidebar! rushdies books recieved pretty good reviews before they were banned by the ayatollah (who offered a reward to you know, kill him, in the name of culture!).

The old adage, until you walk a mile in someone else's shoes seems to work here.

No amount of Fable's statistics or Sunshyne's uneducated ramblings are even close to the mark.

I used to work as a driver for an escort agency. I would drive the escorts to their dates, wait for them, and drive them back to the house. One of the most entertaining jobs EVER.

In any event, as Ebbo said, most of the people who work in the sex trade industry aren't in it cause they are drug addicted whores. They are doing it to make a living. One girl worked there, cause she believed she was providing a public service. One girl was doing it to support her family as she had just moved here from Bosnia. And then there are those that are doing it for reasons including drugs, but far less than you think.

Some of these people make a FANTASTIC living doing this, they aren't exploited, and they are safe.

People who work in an agency don't make as much as those that work on the street. "High Track" or street walkers make probably $100 more per hour than a person in an agency. The pro's in an agency have a "pimp" or boss that they pay a percentage to. But risk goes up for anyone who is out on the street at night alone.

Sunshyne - Escorts are no different than pro's. They have the same happy ending. In fact, for GFE(girl friend experience), it costs considerably more for a date for that, than to do other things.

[prozac]

Originally Posted by Avana

Prozac - Escorts are no different than pro's. They have the same happy ending. In fact, for GFE(girl friend experience), it costs considerably more for a date for that, than to do other things.

Where did I differentiate the two? In fact I pretty much figured they were the same thing until just now.

Originally Posted by prozac

Where did I differentiate the two? In fact I pretty much figured they were the same thing until just now.

My bad - that was directed at Sunshyne. Will edit.

[fable]

AVANA: You and I are debating apples and oranges so dont bring my name into it.

My point was that the "bad apples" of the dtes to not make a bad name for high end escorts, because they both face the same systemic problems that produce the conditions that convince a man or women to sell their bodies.

I DID NOT condem any prostitute or escort, rather once again the systemic problems that create specific conditions.

I DID NOT argue against the fact that some escorts "make a good living" Rather I dont believe it has any relevency. When dealing with a problem or assessing a problem you look at the most extreme cases and balance the assessment with taking in the largest sector. High priced escorts who make a reletively good living do not fall in either of these sectors, so in turn are not an exceptional factor in addressing the problem.

Lastly, being a driver (as common as working for starbucks in this city) doesnt make you Heidi Flieche, so ease off the attitude.

[stephen_c]

4 pages and not 1 pic.
i'm disappointed.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by P.A.R.T.Y

I wrote this drunk. I made many mistakes while writing this. We are fighting Goldstein and the armies or Eurasia.
The point : I don't assume to know everything about prostitutes, but some of them are not drug-addicts, they have a choice and chose to sell their ass instead of finding a "day job." Prostitution is rampant in Thailand, it's everywhere, you can feel it on the street. It is a cultural phenomena, so I am being culturaly sensitive to my realtive position in their society by defending a system that seems to employ a great many people, albeit a typically horrible, disgusting, and degrading job.
Yes, I said, we need sex, we need boom boom, and it doesn't make you horrible to buy a prostitute. In retrospect, when you're drunk this is easy to say, but I still hold tightly to my cultural relativism arguement. We have no place to judge foreign cultures based on our western ideology. Some cultured persecute those who read Salman Rushdie, they chop your hand off for stealing, they kill the baby girls when they need more men. However, we are just as bad. We show sign of affection in public, we dare speak against our government.etc. Antenna Boy, you can not fight the whole worlds belief system, everyone sees things different, many people see things through a different shade of glass. Buying a prostitute is perfectly normal in Thailand, so is getting a massage, or drinking whiskey on the street with friends, etc.
BTW,Pedophilia is a death sentence is Thailand.
Fable, you seem like a good sort. Sorry for attacking you, I just saw that you were painting with some pretty broad strokes and I wanted you to respond.

First off, be careful who you are speaking to. Don't include "We" as in me. This is your argument, and therefore your belief, so use the word "I" instead. You still provide no psychologistic, solidly documented evidence to prove anything you say, so therefore is just heresay, and less valid unless you show me real facts.

Secondly, I am not fighting your overexaggerated statement on fighting the "world's belief system." In fact, what IS the world's belief system? Can you provide a definition for this please? I always followed the fact that you are entitled to your own beliefs, and not someone else's, even if you belong to a religious society?

Finally, I must ask you a question: do you believe that selling your own body, thus exploiting your genitalia or mouth, is perfectly normal (psychologically)? (assuming you are a girl, and assuming your parents, if you have parents, brought you up with standards and morals? Explain. But, then again, with homosexuality these days, I give you permission to swing either way for your comment on this one).

[fable]

Originally Posted by fable

Lastly, being a driver (as common as working for starbucks in this city) doesnt make you Heidi Flieche, so ease off the attitude.

That was a ridiculous thing to say, sorry avana.

[P.A.R.T.Y]

My approach to this debate is philisophical and I use the word "we," to detach myself from comments that I feel are shared among a great many people.
To answer your hypothetical question:
-No, I would not sell my body, but this is only reflects my personal opinion.
-It's not standard behavior to become a prostitute in Canada. Is it unethical? Depends on the individual and the socialiazation of the individual within their society.
PS> that Goldstein things was a joke.

[mekim]

Originally Posted by BongMan

Now who's stereotyping :P

no, no. don't you know, whenever fable pulls out his standardized racist, stereotyping comments they're just him making an example of what everyone else is saying?

[djmarkpaul]

Originally Posted by Antenna_Boy

But, then again, with homosexuality these days, I give you permission to swing either way for your comment on this one).

[mekim]

Originally Posted by djmarkpaul

it's too bad you don't have the old homoerotic signature he had with the canucks netminder complaining about how his "roberto is too luongo".

[djmarkpaul]

E-gads I think you may be onto something...get off of it...no not that way!

[P.A.R.T.Y]

^^^hahaha^^^

[fable]

Originally Posted by mekim

no, no. don't you know, whenever fable pulls out his standardized racist, stereotyping comments they're just him making an example of what everyone else is saying?

man, i hate it when my fan club presidents get all crazy + stalker'ish

[mekim]

Originally Posted by fable

man, i hate it when my fan club presidents get all crazy + stalker'ish

I'M RIGHT BEHIND YOU

BOILING YOUR RABBITS.