for people who aren't in school... - Page 12

SEAN! · #**276** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

from an employer's point of view life experience and time spent travelling has almost no value whatsoever, and in many cases can be a liability. for very competitive positions life experience does count but you are also expected to have a very high gpa, demonstratible knowledge/ambition as well as the life experienced gained form being student body president and teaching blind kids from the ghetto how to read.

If you were an employer who had to choose between someone who appears to be focused and some what intelligent but has no 'life experience.' Relative to someone who has no real evidence of either but instead can boast about the 6 months they spent travelling and wasting time trying to make a career out of a dead end job, who would you pick?

alot of employers wont even look at someone with out post secondary and nearly every profession requires a 4 year degree to even attempt the further education necessary to begin training.

the world is a very competitive place, if you dont have any form of post secondary education, be it trades/uni/etc, you will be at a disadvantage...well unless your a big swinging dick like rawb.

SEAN! · #**277** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

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Originally Posted by rawb

WHY DO YOU KEEP POINTING THAT OUT LIKE ITS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO LEARN

I BROWSE WIKIPEDIA ON MY PHONE WHEN I TAKE A DUMP ITS NOT LIKE IM LEARNING MUCH MORE THAN RANDOM FACTS AND ANECDOTES

yeah and even the kids cheating at ubc are reading hundreds of pages of academic journals and textbooks every week. Plus they have proof that they actually did it.

jono · #**278** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

What is this bullshit about post-secondary having to have anything to do with a career? Is there not one of you who has seen a movie about college? Least that was what my college experience was all about and it should be your motivation to go!

Damn that meddling Dean!

Grapes · #**279** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

I think you're getting the Dean mixed up with the kids from Scooby Doo. He was more of the old and crusty type.

jono · #**280** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

He meddled too... like that time I got drunk and had a desk throwing contest outside Buchannon, it had to be the Dean who got the security guards to ruin my plans.

My plans to throw a desk the farthest!

jono · #**281** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Also, this was the best thread I've read on FNK in a while. To all those involved, keep on fighting the good fight.

robyn · #**282** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Jono, you'll make a perfect addition to my cabinet. Secretary of partying down!

galaxie · #**283** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

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Originally Posted by SEAN!

alot of employers wont even look at someone with out post secondary and nearly every profession requires a 4 year degree to even attempt the further education necessary to begin training.

Agreed.
I'm lucky that I even have my position right now - a lot of large retailers really don't like to employ management that don't have degrees.

Gusto · #**284** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

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Originally Posted by rawb

WHY DO YOU KEEP POINTING THAT OUT LIKE ITS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO LEARN

I BROWSE WIKIPEDIA ON MY PHONE WHEN I TAKE A DUMP ITS NOT LIKE IM LEARNING MUCH MORE THAN RANDOM FACTS AND ANECDOTES

dude did you just say that reading isn't an effective way to learn? haha.

jono · #**285** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

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Originally Posted by robyn

Jono, you'll make a perfect addition to my cabinet. Secretary of partying down!

I've got an awesome line if you have to run against Les Wienin!

robyn · #**286** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

there's no councilman Les Wienin!

Ree Fresh · #**287** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

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Originally Posted by SEAN!

from an employer's point of view life experience and time spent travelling has almost no value whatsoever, and in many cases can be a liability. for very competitive positions life experience does count but you are also expected to have a very high gpa, demonstratible knowledge/ambition as well as the life experienced gained form being student body president and teaching blind kids from the ghetto how to read.

If you were an employer who had to choose between someone who appears to be focused and some what intelligent but has no 'life experience.' Relative to someone who has no real evidence of either but instead can boast about the 6 months they spent travelling and wasting time trying to make a career out of a dead end job, who would you pick?

alot of employers wont even look at someone with out post secondary and nearly every profession requires a 4 year degree to even attempt the further education necessary to begin training.

the world is a very competitive place, if you dont have any form of post secondary education, be it trades/uni/etc, you will be at a disadvantage...well unless your a big swinging dick like rawb.

Ill agree that an employer will most most deffenently take someone with a degree over life experiences alone... however that doesnt mean that "life experiences" such as travel or other passionate projects dont count towards anything. Take for instance applying for as a mature student in college. Nat is a great example of someone who never finished high school, but because she spent her years working in her ideal career field gaining great experience in retail... shes able to skip steps and colleges will take her with glee.

I think education is priority, but having things like traveling, playing piano, and volunteer work do count for something and tell your employer more about your character and personality. Lots of ppl will have the same piece of paper you do, so you need to find other ways of standing out and beyond.

Im really surprised how black and white ppl are being about this topic... what wrong with a little bit of both?

Im also getting the impression that education is suppose to equal your worth from some of you. Realistically we cant all be layers and Doctors... we need a wide rage of people doing a wide rage of jobs and we need to respect what ppl do. Otherwise how do layers expect to have their fancy dinners with out the waitress that serve them or have the building they live in with out the builders etc? get it?

mekim · #**288** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

^^^ i think quite a few people are reacting that way when a certain someone keeps proclaiming that reading lots and life experiences are gonna to get you just as far as school, which anyone can cheat at and is therefore useless.

-evil-duerr- · #**289** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

would you guys quit patronizing sunshyne.

I learned shitloads about eating 12 cheeseburgers at once from reading archie comics.
ya. as if you could even learn something like that with some artsy fartsy yuppy degree.

rawb · #**290** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by Gusto

dude did you just say that reading isn't an effective way to learn? haha.

KEEPING UP ON CURRENT AND PAST EVENTS IS GOING TO OPEN UP WHAT CAREER PATH FOR YOU?

wishbone · #**291** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by -evil-duerr-

would you guys quit patronizing sunshyne.

I learned shitloads about eating 12 cheeseburgers at once from reading archie comics.
ya. as if you could even learn something like that with some artsy fartsy yuppy degree.

hamburger U? :(

Gusto · #**292** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by rawb

KEEPING UP ON CURRENT AND PAST EVENTS IS GOING TO OPEN UP WHAT CAREER PATH FOR YOU?

i guess it depends on what you're reading. besides i didn't read the whole thread. why would i read the whole thread to gain context when i can just pick a single part of someone's post and dwell on that.

#**293** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

Hey Guys - I updated my Resume....tell me what you think!

Avana Gjendem

Work Experience

2000-Present Super Duper Well Read Employee

Education

Formal - None

Stuff I have read - Curious George, The Entire Dr. Seuss Collection, Microsoft for dummies, Wikipedia.com, Macleans while waiting in my Doctor's office.

Tea · #**294** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

This is the thread that wouldn't quit.

Seriously, how the fuck is this still going....

fnk baffles me.

Leviathan · #**295** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

Easy, you just posted in it.

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Originally Posted by Tea

This is the thread that wouldn't quit.

Seriously, how the fuck is this still going....

fnk baffles me.

prozac · #**296** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avana

Hey Guys - I updated my Resume....tell me what you think!

Avana Gjendem

Work Experience

2000-Present Super Duper Well Read Employee

Education

Formal - None

Stuff I have read - Curious George, The Entire Dr. Seuss Collection, Microsoft for dummies, Wikipedia.com, Macleans while waiting in my Doctor's office.

Avana, I would like to offer you a position in my HR department.

#**297** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by prozac

Avana, I would like to offer you a position in my HR department.

I am only going to work there if the office has a window and a door.

robyn · #**298** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by Avana

Macleans while waiting in my Doctor's office.

i did that today, turns out there's a black fellow running for president

tiedye · #**299** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by robyn

i did that today, turns out there's a black fellow running for president

A woman too! This whole world's going to hell.

wishbone · #**300** (**permalink**) Mar 09, 07

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Originally Posted by robyn

i did that today, turns out there's a black fellow running for president

GOOD THING YOU'RE A WOMAN AND CAN'T VOTE