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Old Dec 01, 08
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she doesn't look that scared!
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My biggest issue with these people is their expectation that Canada should be there to fly them out in a jiffy as if they are so special, we arent talking about civil war here or terrorism, no tourist who stays away from demonstrations is in any danger.
Governments technically have the mandate to protect their citizens domestically and abroad.

Saying, "oh your stuck in this country for an undermined amount of time" is a little much.

For example look at it this way. Your stuck in Thailand, you were planning on a two week trip, well it's now three weeks. You have no way of getting money (a common problem faced by tourists in the country now). Sure you've been staying in a hotel, but lets face facts, they cost money. Which you are out of now.

You have no idea how long this is going to last. Nobody does, if it lasts three months, are these people just supposed to stay there?

It's easy to say while your at home "we shouldn't help them" but in that situation I'm sure you'd be hoping for help.
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Did you miss the take a bus or train option.

Its not going to last 3 months.

Keep plugging.
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Did you miss the take a bus or train option.

Its not going to last 3 months.

Keep plugging.
How do busses and trains not cost money too?
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Did you miss the take a bus or train option.
So, you have no money, but you are supposed to bus across the country, to hop on a plane and fly away.

It's really easy to give solutions when you don't have to do it yourself.


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Its not going to last 3 months.

Keep plugging.
I love how you've spent this thread calling people ignorant, yet you can state without hesitation that this will last less then three months.

I'm curious, what makes you such an expert on Thailand's politics and people.
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she doesn't look that scared!


Neither do they...
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Scared of what....

Im getting the impression that you watch a lot of Fox News.

If I was desperate to leave Thailand I would hop on a bus or train to Kuala Lumpar, they cant be that worried if they arent willing to do that.

I find it hilarious all these canadians complaining that the cnd govt hasnt helped them, lol you are on vacation in almost zero danger, figure it out for yourselves chumps.
I don't watch fox new.

I'd imagine some of these people hearing whats going on would assume the worse and don't know they're not in any danger.

That's just how people are.
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I so wish I was there right now. Unless you're hanging out at the airport, being in Bangkok you wouldn't have the slightest idea what was going on unless you're watching the news.

I understand it sucks for some people but for me being stuck there and having a legitimate excuse for work would be a dream come true!
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I so wish I was there right now. Unless you're hanging out at the airport, being in Bangkok you wouldn't have the slightest idea what was going on unless you're watching the news.

I understand it sucks for some people but for me being stuck there and having a legitimate excuse for work would be a dream come true!
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It's a tourists responsibility to travel with enough money for emergencies not the governments.
The people that are running out of money can move out of the $150++ per night hotels into something clean and respecatable for $30 and even cheaper. Even someone who lost all of his money can sleep in a temple with the monks for free if he really had to!

It's simple to leave the country of Thailand right now.
Take the bus/train to Malaysia. The trains are air conditioned and comfortable to sleep in if you want them to be. You could also exit through Cambodia or Laos and then fly to an international port, although that would be more time consuming and pricier. In other words lots of options!

Malaysia and Singapore have international airports that fly pretty much anywhere.

When I was there after the coup, strippers were dancing on the tanks. It's a really strange country. For the most part it's very safe.
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I don't think it's fair to stereotype all travellers in Thailand as being rich bastards staying in $150+ a night luxury hotels. Most people I know that travel to the country do so on a tight budget and stay at hostels.
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I don't think it's fair to stereotype all travellers in Thailand as being rich bastards staying in $150+ a night luxury hotels. Most people I know that travel to the country do so on a tight budget and stay at hostels.
But this is awesome for them, it's like a free vacation!!!!!!
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I don't think it's fair to stereotype all travellers in Thailand as being rich bastards staying in $150+ a night luxury hotels. Most people I know that travel to the country do so on a tight budget and stay at hostels.
dave would be the very last person to do that considering his experience backpacking the region.

I'm sure he's meaning the demographic that the mainstream journo's are key'ing on, which their target audience can easily identify with.

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dave would be the very last person to do that considering his experience backpacking the region.

I'm sure he's meaning the demographic that the mainstream journo's are key'ing on, which their target audience can easily identify with.
actually in this case i wasn't referring to dave's post specifically, i know he knows his goods & he has a great point for sure! i know other people were not so eloquently trying to make the same point as him :P
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^whoopsie, it was the matching 150's that got me:)
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Old Dec 01, 08
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What I meant is the people who are likely running our of money are the older people who are staying in the nicer hotels. That's the people I've seen complaining on the news anyway. That would be my guess anyway as I doubt someone on a backpackers budget would start to run out of money after 6 days of being stuck somewhere. I'd hope not anyway!

I feel bad for anyone stuck there, it would suck. But I do not think it justifies our taxpayers to evacuate them unless their life is in danger.

But as I mentioned it's simple to downgrade your hotel. Personally I'm comfortable with a $4.00 to $8.00 room, but even paying $20ish you can get a fairly decent place with air conditioning, clean room, hotel lobby, hot water and private bathroom etc.
If you eat where the locals eat instead of the tourist places that will cost 80% less.
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Common sense is beyond fnk.
Or it's just a fact that not everyone shares the same view as you... and even if you believe something and it's painfully obvious to you, it doesn't mean it's right.

I thought that would have been common sense.
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Less if you're Anne Frank.
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What I meant is the people who are likely running our of money are the older people who are staying in the nicer hotels. That's the people I've seen complaining on the news anyway. That would be my guess anyway as I doubt someone on a backpackers budget would start to run out of money after 6 days of being stuck somewhere. I'd hope not anyway!

I feel bad for anyone stuck there, it would suck. But I do not think it justifies our taxpayers to evacuate them unless their life is in danger.

But as I mentioned it's simple to downgrade your hotel. Personally I'm comfortable with a $4.00 to $8.00 room, but even paying $20ish you can get a fairly decent place with air conditioning, clean room, hotel lobby, hot water and private bathroom etc.
If you eat where the locals eat instead of the tourist places that will cost 80% less.
Fair enough, I agree for the most part. Some people might not have that option though (older tourists, buisnessmen etc). Those that didn't come to backpack are in slight pickle.

It's not doom and gloom for them, a major inconvience though.

Immediate evacuation isn't nessesary, but it will have to occur if the problem isn't remedied soon.
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Less if you're Anne Frank.

Dante Hicks: Have you become so embittered that you now feel the need to attack the handicapped?
Randal Graves: What handicap? They guy's just in a wheelchair, it's not like he's Anne Frank or something.
Dante Hicks: Anne Frank?
Randal Graves: Yeah, Anne Frank. The chick that was all duhhh, till the miracle worker showed up and knocked some smarts into her.
Dante Hicks: You're talking about Helen Keller.
Randal Graves: No I'm not, I'm talking about Anne Frank. She was deaf, dumb and blind.
Dante Hicks: No she wasn't. Helen Keller was deaf, dumb and blind.
Randal Graves: Are you sure?
Dante Hicks: Yup.
Randal Graves: Then who the fuck's Anne Frank?
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I have a client in Thailand who doesn't seem too concerned, and my colleague has a girl who decided to stay in Laos until the situation clears up and she can come home through Bangkok. They're just chillin and making the best of it. Awesome. I'm jealous of the experience.
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