Rave scene....

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by eighty5

What I should have said is its MAINLY about the music.

I still disagree.

I still say that music is merely one part of a whole. Best not to discriminate, yeah?

Without a stereo, you have no rave.
Without a venue, you have no rave.
Without a bunch of fucked up high people, you have no rave.

Who cares which is the MAIN part of it? Just enjoy the party.

[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

I still disagree.

I still say that music is merely one part of a whole. Best not to discriminate, yeah?

Without a stereo, you have no rave.
Without a venue, you have no rave.
Without a bunch of fucked up high people, you have no rave.

Who cares which is the MAIN part of it? Just enjoy the party.

actually all you need is a bunch of fucked up high people. MRC (mobile rave crew) keeps it real like that

[ebbomega]

A rave without music is a bunch of fucked up high people camping.

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

I still disagree.

I still say that music is merely one part of a whole. Best not to discriminate, yeah?

Without a stereo, you have no rave.
Without a venue, you have no rave.
Without a bunch of fucked up high people, you have no rave.

Who cares which is the MAIN part of it? Just enjoy the party.

Noway! You got it all wrong. See you don't need anything to 'have a Rave'.. I Rave all the time.

Sometimes five or six times a day, without music, venue, high people . How? Well I have had so many amazing times (high and not), met so many awesome people, listened to so many great tunes over the course of my years at shows. Sometimes even a t-shirt, a sound, a side step will instantly take me back to a moment that I would only confuse to being to explain. Tucked way back in the attic for a brief moment the dust blows off a brain cell and the lights, the "high people", music, the feeling and excitement are all there.

Don’t look at just the physical aspect. There is so much more to this buzz culture term “Rave”. To me thats the MAIN part of it. Not so much being there, cuz hell there is so many it's like your always there. It's the refined memories when THERE ment something.

[Pennywise]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

what the scene is missing...and will never be the same without..
and i hope one day will return.
i partied soo many times in this venue...and it NEVER got old...

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[Bevvy Swift]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

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agreed. but no point in cryin about it. we gotta be positive and find sometjhing better

[cinist]

you guys are wankers, fuck plaza

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by sNyx™

Noway! You got it all wrong. See you don't need anything to 'have a Rave'.. I Rave all the time.

Sometimes five or six times a day, without music, venue, high people . How? Well I have had so many amazing times (high and not), met so many awesome people, listened to so many great tunes over the course of my years at shows. Sometimes even a t-shirt, a sound, a side step will instantly take me back to a moment that I would only confuse to being to explain. Tucked way back in the attic for a brief moment the dust blows off a brain cell and the lights, the "high people", music, the feeling and excitement are all there.

Don’t look at just the physical aspect. There is so much more to this buzz culture term “Rave”. To me thats the MAIN part of it. Not so much being there, cuz hell there is so many it's like your always there. It's the refined memories when THERE ment something.

Rave whenever you want. Fuck, rave was a verb long before it was a noun.

But just because you're raving at work doesn't mean you're at a frikkin' rave.

Unless all life is a rave.

And everything is music!

STFU, Bjork.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by sNyx™

Noway! You got it all wrong. See you don't need anything to 'have a Rave'.. I Rave all the time.

Sometimes five or six times a day, without music, venue, high people . How? Well I have had so many amazing times (high and not), met so many awesome people, listened to so many great tunes over the course of my years at shows. Sometimes even a t-shirt, a sound, a side step will instantly take me back to a moment that I would only confuse to being to explain. Tucked way back in the attic for a brief moment the dust blows off a brain cell and the lights, the "high people", music, the feeling and excitement are all there.

see, I always thought that was called a flashback :382:

[LastWerd]

ok....
everyone talking about wanting to go to small parties, wtf. i go to a party every weekend, they are small! and there is booze, i dont know where you guys have all been.....
but they are lacking in alot of areas.
my first party i did giveaways, it was pimp! and you know decorations and shit, and actual party, not some hurting 150 people rave type thing...

i think we need more attractions, more things to do at the parties, make it more a party. well, some people and i are working on those things,

BUT LET ME SAY THIS:
WE CAN NOT PROVIDE EXTRA THINGS IF PEOPLE THINK THEY DO NOT HAVE TO PAY COVER!

as promoters, we dont make shit usually. we are lucky to break even and that is because people dont chip in.

YOU WANT GOOD PARTIES, WELL THINGS COST MONEY.
we all have to do our part!

[frankie_V]

Originally Posted by Pennywise

what the scene is missing...and will never be the same without..
and i hope one day will return.
i partied soo many times in this venue...and it NEVER got old...

after a sketchy sunday... i wonder what it would be like to jump in that slurpee...

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Rave whenever you want. Fuck, rave was a verb long before it was a noun.

But just because you're raving at work doesn't mean you're at a frikkin' rave.

Unless all life is a rave.

And everything is music!

STFU, Bjork.

It's a party when your there. It's a Rave when you put yourself there again. :D

Originally Posted by Pennyunwise

what the scene is missing...and will never be the same without..
and i hope one day will return.
i partied soo many times in this venue...and it NEVER got old...

Now I have to disagree there as well. There was a streak about a year when I missed only a couple (2/3) Plaza shows. It was an every other weekend thing during the start/end summer hotspot. Once a month in the summer off seasons. Believe you me, it defiantly felt overplayed at times. Still Plaza will remain as the focal point of events in this city for some time to come. However I do believe there will be a second coming of a better and newer structure to hold our late night dance-'o-ramas. It's a bitter sweet loss the Plaza, Joni Mitchell -Big Yellow Taxi comes to mind.

You don't know what you got till it's gone. They paved paradise and put up a quarter slot.. :p

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by franklin

I've noticed that raves here are very very repetitive!

same old shit...u go there... get high dance etc.

everybody has different opinions and angles in what they like and what not @ parties...

what do YOU think the scene is missing nowadays?

what is there to improve and change?

i would like to hear thoughts...

1st: What do you want at a rave!? a buffet? lazer tag? Its been the same since day one of the rave scene.

What i think the scene is missing!? the roots.. techno, hhc, acid, 303 MADDNESS!

Improve: Less mainstream crowd, better advertising, smaller parties, etc.
back into the underground so puds wont be able to find the rave thus making it much better

[b0ld]

I agree with ppcock on this one.... Not enough techno,acid,hhc,etc....

It seems like every dj at least in vancouver pretty much has the same exact tracks. So its like your going to hear the same track twice but just mixed differently. So its always the same music over and over and over. I swear I heard "Shivers" by armin van buuren twice at IMF.......... Once by John O'callagan and I think once from Jimmy Chou.

Aside to that yes raves need to be more underground and be more experimental in regards to the genre's that are out there. Having to hear the same genre's at every event is slowly killing everything

[ppcock]

true but bored puds who leave the scene because of that fact makes me happy

Thank god there are still underground parties.

[dapimpstress]

Be thankful for them while you still have them. There are very few out here.

I know what you mean about tracks... It's so weird. It's like dude. GET SOME NEW REKKIRDS! seriously... there's good tracks out there, but some dj's are just being lazy about it.

[ppcock]

Actually Ashes,

Its the new records that are being played out
Its worse than Z95 when you hear 8 of the same tunes by 8 different dj's

I like go for the older stuff not even the most popular stuff. Giving the crowd who probably dont know the older trance, techno something that they think is new but in reality its 5-7 years old.

[dapimpstress]

Well I'd have to disagree. I think it's that they are all shopping for records at the same places, and buying whats "popular" which is totally weak sauce.

I'm saying, when buying new records, they should strive to find sick tracks that don't get much *bling bling* kinda attention. more undergound beats, independent labels, etc.

I don't think playing out old tracks is the answer either.

[ebbomega]

I say the answer is both.

Have old AND new stuff in your set.

*gasp* Concept!

Silliness,
Dave "Will happily mix LCD Soundsystem into Depeche Mode any day" Leckie

[ppcock]

playing out old tracks is not the answer?

depends on the crowd you're playing to. Old classics will get peoples attention more than the new "sick" shit.

[Digital Over]

Yes, of course it seems a bit redundant....everyone wants to continue having a repeating experience of simply having a good time. After that, its basically up to the individual what they want to get out of it.

As far as the scene goes, comercially, well, vancouver's pretty much always been a tough sell to get ANYONE out to a show. I guess it's because of the fact that for the most part Vancouver is a very out door'sey city, thus a lot of the public's dollar will be spent on exactly that. Now if its not out door activities that the promotor would be up against, they're also up against, A.)BC Lions Home games B.) (in the winter) Hockey C.)Live Theatre & Cinemas; let alone having ample oppertunity to drop a lot of cash one weekend just by staying on Granville street and club hop. So with that in mind, Vancouver has gone through several different phases for the past 10 years in the entertainment industry, and for the exception of the promotors who have a lot of money, Id say probably about 30% will not take any chances and use the shot gun effect, and try and hit as much of the public as possible to try and break even. But it'll be interesting to see what happens in the next few years, as the city becomes more populus. I must admit I've seen some good improvements to the scene, and I've seen somethings which have taken a step or two back, but in the end, there always will be a reoccuring commonality associated with the scene

[frankie_V]

the scene to me is pretty much DEAD... thas why i aint ravin no more...

[sNyx]

Originally Posted by franklin

the scene to me is pretty much DEAD... thas why i aint ravin no more...

perhaps it's the other way around?

[A-BOMB]

i believe the scene isnt dead, its just changed or evolved into what it is today



im enjoying it alot!

[FeelGood]

Originally Posted by ppcock

Actually Ashes,

Its the new records that are being played out
Its worse than Z95 when you hear 8 of the same tunes by 8 different dj's

I like go for the older stuff not even the most popular stuff. Giving the crowd who probably dont know the older trance, techno something that they think is new but in reality its 5-7 years old.

Id have to agree with you.

It seems that a lot of dj's only like to drop the new popular songs, when really you could get a crowd rockin better to some 80s classics.

To all the dj's, dont be afraid to mix it up, play some older stuff with some new, be unique. For the LOVE OF GOD dont bore us while you stand there looking and twisting knobs on the mixer making it look like its ROCKET SCIENCE.

I think more energy behind the decks is whats lacking the most.