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Canucks Sign Willie Mitchel

4 years for 14 million!
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who the fuck is that, sounds like an actor of some sort
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seems a little bit much for mitchell.

but judging by the activity so far there won't be many capable veteran d-men around if we sleep at all.

nonis is on the ball so far.

/sad that marc savard, cullen, langenbrunner are already off the market.
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FUCK. baumgartner just got signed to philly.
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Old Jul 01, 06
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^ that sucks

and 3.5 is too much for mitchell.

not to mention i've hated him si nce his minnesota days
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I know, Nonis should have signed Blake, Chara, Reden and Lidstrom!!! Duh, why didn't he do that?
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nonis is a douche and he better get some new skill for the team
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mitchell is solid
good plus/minus
we need good defensive defensemen
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nonis is a douche and he better get some new skill for the team
Quoted for idiocy. Loungo who??? That's what I thought.
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Old Jul 02, 06
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Nonis is still a douche. Willie Mitchell isn't Scott Stevens. Why the hell are we paying 3.5 mill a year for a maximum of 14 points from Willie when we just lost Jovo and our lead scoring dman from last year, Baumgartner?
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Nonis is still a douche. Willie Mitchell isn't Scott Stevens. Why the hell are we paying 3.5 mill a year for a maximum of 14 points from Willie when we just lost Jovo and our lead scoring dman from last year, Baumgartner?
Yea I agree. Mitchell is ur stay at home defensemen. Sure he's solid in plus minus but so was wade redden and he racked up the points with him.

too much i think 2.5 would have been alright maybe even 3 but i d unno een 3 is pushing it

p.s: L.A + Crawford just got Rob Blake back
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I hate Mitchell.

He's not worth that much.

Fuckin' Nonis.
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Old Jul 02, 06
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Quoted for idiocy. Loungo who??? That's what I thought.
He's still nothing.

The prices he's giving are off the scale.

27 million for luongo. 3.5 million for a willie mitchell.

what next 6 million for morisson and 4 million or something for ruutu i wouldn't be surprised at all.

though luongo i can understand if he does real well which he might but mitchell is no l uongo or even an ohlund. he don't deserve anything about 3..
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Yea I agree. Mitchell is ur stay at home defensemen. Sure he's solid in plus minus but so was wade redden and he racked up the points with him.

too much i think 2.5 would have been alright maybe even 3 but i d unno een 3 is pushing it

p.s: L.A + Crawford just got Rob Blake back
Now I know you didn't complain about Jovo but a LOT of other people did. Why? Because he was an offensive defence men. Now the Canucks sign a solid d man that will play 20+ minutes a game against the other teams top tine and everyone complains. Also what's with the comparison to Redden, he gets paid twice as much as Mitchell.
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Then again, in terms of the high prices, the current ownership agreement means players in the NHL will make a maximum of 54% of the revenues. These prices don't really exist. They'll all have to pay back money out of their own pockets to even it up. That said, Mitchell would've been a great pickup for less than 3/year.
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Also what's with the comparison to Redden, he gets paid twice as much as Mitchell.
But he gets four times as many points.
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He's still nothing.

The prices he's giving are off the scale.

27 million for luongo. 3.5 million for a willie mitchell.

what next 6 million for morisson and 4 million or something for ruutu i wouldn't be surprised at all.

though luongo i can understand if he does real well which he might but mitchell is no l uongo or even an ohlund. he don't deserve anything about 3..
Filip Kuba 3 years 9 million
Jay Mckee 4 years 16 million
Nick Boynton 3 years 8.85 million
Joe Corvo 4 years 10.5 million

Willie Mitchell 4 years 14 million

How is that "off the scale?" But hey maybe I should just take a leap of faith (cause that's all it is) and get on the Nonis hate wagon.
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I never thought much of Willie Mitchell. Not exactly thrilled about this acquisition.
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Filip Kuba 3 years 9 million
Jay Mckee 4 years 16 million
Nick Boynton 3 years 8.85 million
Joe Corvo 4 years 10.5 million

Willie Mitchell 4 years 14 million

How is that "off the scale?" But hey maybe I should just take a leap of faith (cause that's all it is) and get on the Nonis hate wagon.
Filip Kuba is good for around 30 pts/year @ $3
Nick Boynton 25-30/year @ <$3
Joe Corvo got 40 points last year @ <$3

Jay McKee is the only one there who got a little overpaid for but I think that's largely due to his playoff run last year. He was the leading shotblocker in the playoffs after game 6. Is Willie Mitchell one of the league's leading shotblockers? If not, he got overpaid. Now how much money do we have to get an offensive dman?

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Filip Kuba is good for around 30 pts/year @ $3
Nick Boynton 25-30/year @ <$3
Joe Corvo got 40 points last year @ <$3

Jay McKee is the only one there who got a little overpaid for but I think that's largely due to his playoff run last year. He was the leading shotblocker in the playoffs after game 6. Is Willie Mitchell one of the league's leading shotblockers? If not, he got overpaid. Now how much money do we have to get an offensive dman?
Maybe Kuba can put up some points (30 was his career best) but he's also a career minus player (-20). When you've spent most of your career with Minnesota that's a bad thing.

Boynton is coming off an 12 point minus 7 season but hey maybe you'd rather Nonis signed him. He has definite potential but at 27 he better start reaching it.

Joe Corvo getting 40 points represents a break out season for him. If he keeps it up he could make Ottawa look good.

Jay Mckee and Willie Mitchell are out of all of the players mentioned have the most in common. They are both large stay at home defence men with very similar career numbers. Mckee helped the Sabres on their playoff run this year while Mitchell helped Minnesota during their 02-03 run to the conference finals. Anyone remember Mitchell making Bertuzzi look all but invisible?

Bottom line is that like him or not his salary is not out of line with what other defence men of similar calibre are getting paid.
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Old Jul 02, 06
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i for one would much rather see a consistent defensive force like mitchell back there.

ohlund can't be the only one who keeps forwards honest. bryan allen kinda did that but inconsistently.

besides, we shouldn't be depending on our defence for points like this team had a tendency to do.

/bourdon factor
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i for one would much rather see a consistent defensive force like mitchell back there.

ohlund can't be the only one who keeps forwards honest. bryan allen kinda did that but inconsistently.

besides, we shouldn't be depending on our defence for points like this team had a tendency to do.

/bourdon factor
Kevin Bieksa also proved to be a reliable 6 or 7 d man.
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Old Jul 02, 06
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Now I know you didn't complain about Jovo but a LOT of other people did. Why? Because he was an offensive defence men. Now the Canucks sign a solid d man that will play 20+ minutes a game against the other teams top tine and everyone complains. Also what's with the comparison to Redden, he gets paid twice as much as Mitchell.
^ no comparison just saying the Canucks have never had a type of player of that Calibre on defence.
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