MONEY >:(

[cubed]

I'm sure that enough of you people are concerned with getting your money back you could all come together, pay the $60.00 fee for small claims court and take Money to court and you'd surely get a court order to get a refund and most likely cover the $60.00 fee for small claims court.

If you want something done about the situation bitching and moaning on an internet message board is probably the least productive way of getting something accomplished.

It's true, people need to start being held accountable for their actions. Similar to what Dave said, you are all entitled to a refund and you all should stop at nothing less.

Does someone have to pay for the salmon they ordered at a restaurant if half way through the appetizers the waiter comes out and tells them they have to pay for the meal even though they're out of salmon???

I don't think so.

[BrownThug]

this thread sucks....

the djs and shit still ahd to be paid for...its not liek money is keeping all the money...

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by M!SKA

I think everyone does.. lol

I don't!

let a sista' know Miska!

[M!SKA]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

I don't!

let a sista' know Miska!

= our dear friend euro_dollar/options/alias_grozney/what other accounts did he have?

[C_squared]

LOL @ everyone who bought a tix.

that is all.

[Artifacts]

Originally Posted by k-pryde

wtf

why are you guys telling him to shut up? are you fucking retarded? everyone should get their money back. keeping the money is clearly a scam and criminal. if you can't get the organization of your party straight don't fucking throw it. and if you think this venue doubled booked therefore i am entitled to keep all the money bullshit is legitthen you're fucking stupid. this either calls for lawyers, police, machetes or baseball bats.

Koreans always know the best way out! HA!

[matéo]

Johnny Took Molly's Glowsticks Again!

[sweet~kandy]

Im im not mistaken, correct me if im wrong, but since this wasnt a legal event I dont think that anyone can take anyone to court. The person who bought the ticket knew that it was an illegal event and knew that it had a chance of getting busted or maybe not even happening at all, so therefore it was the person's mistake for buying a ticket for something that wasnt announced legal.

[frequency]

^what if there was people who wernt informed this wasnt a fully legal event? like somone who hasnt been to alot of parties understand where the legal parties are and where they are not. I mean say some girl got a flyer handed to her and went to the store and bought a ticket. How would she know she just has taken the risk of purchasing a ticket to an illegal rave?

[Akeel]

pretty much any party that goes all nite and does not advertise itself as being fully legal, isn't.

and no one is going to advertise that their party is an illegal underground show....talk about heatscore.

[Undecided]

this was an undergound illegal show and i think like everything illegal there is an element of risk of things getting busted or things not happening at all or even jail people kne that going in and shouldn't be upset Vancouver is called the NO FUN city for a reason and until the rules change it will stay that way and were just gonna have to live with it I'm not saying Money should get off scott free he should deffently be on the hook for something be it a make up show or a refund in part or in whole

[sweet~kandy]

Originally Posted by Akeel

pretty much any party that goes all nite and does not advertise itself as being fully legal, isn't.

and no one is going to advertise that their party is an illegal underground show....talk about heatscore.

Exactly, well said Akeel :)

[G-Style]

I hate to say this but as Dave has mentioned before. Wake up and smell the coffee this is the reality of being a promoter in this buisness. If your party does not happen it is your responsability as a promoter to refund peoples money if asked. Now some people are saying that that is harsh as he's going to lose alot of his own money. Well ladies and gentlmen I do not remeber the last time that a promoter made money he/she stood at the door and gave everyone some of their money back. "Hey thanks for comming I did really well tonight here's 5 bucks back." Just because the promoter loses money does not reflect back to the customer. If it costs me $500 a day to run my corner store and only get one customer I can't charge that customer $500 for a Kitkat. WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF BUISNESS. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. The longer you are in buisness you learn better ways to ensure you win and spend less time losing. I can not even begin to mention the amount of money guys like Dave, Rick , Azim, Salim and the Shy Bros have lost over the years. Yes they have all made good money too but I know for a fact they have also all lost lots. So again I hate to say this but the right thing is to offer a make up party and or a full refund depending on whichever the CUSTOMER chooses. Sorry Money but it's whats right!

[G-Style]

Originally Posted by Akeel

pretty much any party that goes all nite and does not advertise itself as being fully legal, isn't.

and no one is going to advertise that their party is an illegal underground show....talk about heatscore.

True Akeel but you took law! You know that unless its stated somewhere in the eyes of the law you're liable. "This was my first party and didn't know anything" will work just fine!. It's a shitty deal but what are you gonna do! Just gotta bite the bullet.

Dave I don't know if you want to mention but what did Rhythm Nation end up costing? And for the people that don't know Rhythm Nation EXTREMLY SADLY didn't happen!

[trance4life]

Originally Posted by sweet~kandy

Im im not mistaken, correct me if im wrong, but since this wasnt a legal event I dont think that anyone can take anyone to court. The person who bought the ticket knew that it was an illegal event and knew that it had a chance of getting busted or maybe not even happening at all, so therefore it was the person's mistake for buying a ticket for something that wasnt announced legal.

its fraud, the ticket acts as a contract
/shrug its just 1 party

[Double J]

Originally Posted by middle mike

EVERYONE SHOULD GET THEIR MONEY BACK.

I don't want to attack my friend Money but no one should be defending him. He fucked up and he knows he fucked up. He should ohm up to it and give the people their money back.

Word!

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by G-Style

True Akeel but you took law! You know that unless its stated somewhere in the eyes of the law you're liable. "This was my first party and didn't know anything" will work just fine!. It's a shitty deal but what are you gonna do! Just gotta bite the bullet.

Dave I don't know if you want to mention but what did Rhythm Nation end up costing? And for the people that don't know Rhythm Nation EXTREMLY SADLY didn't happen!

liability and culpability are two different things. Rhythm Nation didnt happen either but Dave still had to pay his bills from that party including Masterplan for sound, lighting, trucking, etc.

the only makeup party that did happen was unofficial and Money put that together.

[Akeel]

Originally Posted by Double J

Word!

haha, thats ironic to see a post from you.

why dont you give back that mixer and two turntables you stole from Masterplan?

Remember when I took back the other 4 from your house?

[SquiLa]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

This city's scene has a real problem. This is why it's rare to see me at an event.

Yes, I agree, and it makes me sad. And many people don't even know what they are missing (see my n00b post - http://www.fnk.ca/board/showthread.p...511#post863511).

So why not come out and support more events though? It has to start somewhere. I guess you've given up?

I feel that everyone should put out some effort and go out and support more events. Things can always turn around scene-wise. Yeah, in an ideal world...... *begin daydream*

[Artifacts]

Alot of people are disappointed, and feel robbed no matter what the problem is, noone should pay for other people's mistakes. FUCK lawyers, its about reputation. Money's reputation would be seriously damaged if people who can't make it out to the make up party don't get a full refund.
If you tell people its not my fault, nothing I can do about it, you WILL get away with it, but that is exactly how you lose business, am I wrong?

[~Sc@ndelu$~]

Originally Posted by Artifacts

Alot of people are disappointed, and feel robbed no matter what the problem is, noone should pay for other people's mistakes. FUCK lawyers, its about reputation. Money's reputation would be seriously damaged if people who can't make it out to the make up party don't get a full refund.
If you tell people its not my fault, nothing I can do about it, you WILL get away with it, but that is exactly how you lose business, am I wrong?

i know who u are!~

[Artifacts]

Originally Posted by ~Sc@ndelu$~

i know who u are!~

... ok, I know who you are too margie why do you keep saying it?

[~Sc@ndelu$~]

Originally Posted by Artifacts

... ok, I know who you are too margie why do you keep saying it?

i dont know who u are

[magic_hands]

i find this quite interesting... i have read thru this entire thread to see that most of you have the right idea and some of you have no idea what you are talking about... im not going to attack any single person's ideals on what a promoter should and shouldn't do in the event of a party totally flopping... moreso.. i'd like to hear what money has to say.. so many people talking... not one word from money.. now.. i've learned in my 5 yrs of partying that there are 100's of ways in wich your night of partying can go to shits... one of the biggest ones just happens to be the party not happening... it can happen for many reasons in wich no one has control over..

for example.. i bought 3 tickets.. one for me.. one for my driver and one for my buddy shaun.. since this party didn't happen they aren't paying me for the tickets... now im stuck with 3 20$ tickets... and no refund.. this isn't the first time that it has happened like this.. it just sucks when it does...

AGRODAVE: i know what you are talking about when you say that the reason your company has been running so long is because of the way you conduct your business.. totally true.. i hope your company runs for a long time man... kinda funny... i met you at my first party.. sesamea street

[Hot Karl]

i bet sean! woulda see this coming a mile away.