The Carter 3 entire album leaked

[rawb]

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[omega_image]

Originally Posted by Mangle

They have released several albums since 2000. They just blew ass and didn't sell, as they shouldn't have. Actually, it's prolly for the best you don't remember them.
The point there was RAWB said I hate popular music after I said CH is better than Lil' Wayne, which -based on sales, as the only fair measure for popularity- is a completely idiotic thing to say.

If you're going to bring stats into play, you should check download numbers both legally (itunes) and illegally. I can guarantee you that wayne's numbers win by landslide.

Also, google fight agrees =P Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight Cypress Hill VS Lil Wayne

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by Mangle

QFT
Lil' Mama and Young Buck are both long overdue for an execution style murder.

of course i'm right.

however, lil wayne is still way more popular than cypress hill...

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by Mangle

That's like looking to Dane Cook for intelligence.

or humour

[dabbler]

+ 1 to the Lil Wayne hater's pls

[Revolver]

so lil wayne now is more popular then cypress hill was at their peak?...is this right?

i dont listen to lil wayne so i dunno, but i did love cypress hill back in '93 and i remember them being fucking HUGE

if cypress hill had the marketing machine that is the viral/internets back in 1993, do you hip hop fans think they would be on par or surpass lil wayne in popularity?

or is lil wayne THAT good?...in wich case post up some key tracks for me to DL.

[dj_soo]

Originally Posted by Revolver

or is lil wayne THAT good?...in wich case post up some key tracks for me to DL.

lil wayne is not that good. people's taste nowadays is just that bad.

[rawb]

its not a question of his skill or his ability (which i think is very good, but im not really checking for him), it's the fact that if you are launching a new act (chris brown, dj khalid) or revamping someone established (robin thicke, destiny's child) or just introducing your new single to have a bit more cred (fat joe, lil brother) you put lil wayne on it. the vastness of popular singles that lil wayne has his stamp on is incredible.

he's on the cover of xxl/the source/vibe/rolling stone every 2 or 3 months. last year vibe did an article on him where they rated his 77 releases that year in order of best to last... 77!

cypress hill was fine and thats great, but nobody is mentioning anyone from cypress hill in the top 50 MCs of all time, where you would be hard pressed to find a list that doesn't include wayne.

when you go to a hip hop club, if you dont hear at least 3 wayne tracks in a night you probably left early.

[Mangle]

Originally Posted by rawb

it's great that you want to argue about someone too popular for you to like

Originally Posted by Mangle

Cypress Hill is just as if not more popular than Lil' Wayne... maybe not for long, but CH has a decade headstart towards building a global fanbase.

Originally Posted by omega_image

If you're going to bring stats into play, you should check download numbers both legally (itunes) and illegally. I can guarantee you that wayne's numbers win by landslide.

Originally Posted by miss.myra

so when I say 'relevant' today, I really do mean 'relevant' .

Cypress Hill has inarguably sold more albums, and they've been around a lot longer. That alone means Cypress Hill is as or more popular than Lil' Wayne worldwide (not just in the sweaty monkey clubs RAWB frequents), give or take a few incalculable downloads. That's all I said and that's what I've since proven beyond a reasonable doubt. I like some music that happens to be popular. I love the Gorillaz and Gnarles Barkley too. I could care less about what any of you consider relevant. Relevant ain't popular. Paris Hilton is still popular today, and she has never been relevant. Popularity is far easier to calculate than relevancy.

The Beatles haven't released an album in 40 years. And yet, they still aren't irrelevant or unpopular, as the 2007 Golden Globe/Academy Award nominated film Across The Universe and the continuing Cirque du Soleil show attest (not to mention the millions of CDs they still sell every year). Unless of course you're trying to say your parents and every generation of human beings before the current high school age is irrelevant, 'cause that's just sad. They all still exist, you know. Paul McCartney is still selling out arenas and shipping platinum (his 2007 album sold 1.5 million).

You know, our generation really is the worst yet. The '80s have nothing on us and as soon as we kill all the ecosystems that support our being, we'll all be the same level of irrelevant. Have a good night.

Originally Posted by rawb

dude you've used that dumb cypress hill line in two separate lil wayne threads and nobody has bitten.

Originally Posted by rawb

cypress hill was fine and thats great, but nobody is mentioning anyone from cypress hill in the top 50 MCs of all time

On behalf of you, I say "chomp." Thanks for making this vigorous discussion of Cypress Hill's continuing legacy possible.

In all seriousness, I don't mind Lil' Wayne (though I hate his dumb-ass name). I'm not much of a Kayne West fan either, but I don't hate them. There is worse rap in the charts. Fighting unjustified hype is merely a hobby of mine, and this killed hours at work. Thanks for your time.

[GSG9]

yea but kanye west sucks miles of dick. sall good

[dabbler]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

people's taste nowadays is just that bad.

/end of thread

[rawb]

personal attack, heavy backpedal, concedes point by pretending he was trolling, mention of not having anything better to do?

yup, Mangle just got worked in another music discussion.

[Mangle]

Man, what a poor loser you are.

[Bevvy Swift]

as one who generally disagrees with mangle, or pretends to, just to get him riled up, i must say he makes some good points this time.

just because lil wayne is topping every chart these days doesnt necessarily mean anyone will know who he is in 5 years. maybe it does. ive never heard of him, anyways.

but the fact that cypress hill is even included in this argument is evidence enough that thier material has serious longevity, regardless of actual MCing skill. having longevity (and thus relevance) isnt about just topping charts, its about having a sound that is unique and timeless. now i cant go about trash talking lil wayne because i havent a clue what he sounds like. but the fact that he couldnt come up with anything more original than "lil wayne" as his stage name might reveal a thing or two about his uniqueness no? just sayin.

ps rawb more capitals please

[rawb]

CYPRESS HILL HAD 3 TOP 10 HITS IN THEIR CAREER. IN COMPARISON, LIL WAYNE HAD MORE THAN 3 TOP 10 HITS IN THE LAST YEAR

CYPRESS HILL HAD THEIR FIRST HIT IN 93 AND THEN PETERED OUT TOWARDS THAT HORRIBLE ROCK SUPERSTAR TRACK IN 2000. LIL WAYNE HAD HIS FIRST HIT IN 98 AND STILL MAKES HITS TODAY.

JUST SAYIN.

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[Mangle]

The Eagles went 7x platinum last year. So what?

[rawb]

OH HEY MANGLES BACK, SUP MANGLE.
I BET YOU HAVE SOME WELL-GOOGLED IDEAS, PLZ SHARE.
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[matéo]

Originally Posted by Bevvy Swift

as one who generally disagrees with mangle, or pretends to, just to get him riled up, i must say he makes some good points this time.

just because lil wayne is topping every chart these days doesnt necessarily mean anyone will know who he is in 5 years. maybe it does. ive never heard of him, anyways.

but the fact that cypress hill is even included in this argument is evidence enough that thier material has serious longevity, regardless of actual MCing skill. having longevity (and thus relevance) isnt about just topping charts, its about having a sound that is unique and timeless. now i cant go about trash talking lil wayne because i havent a clue what he sounds like. but the fact that he couldnt come up with anything more original than "lil wayne" as his stage name might reveal a thing or two about his uniqueness no? just sayin.

ps rawb more capitals please

I guess the irony of it all, is that despite the lack of creativity in his name Lil Wayne has a style of his own when it comes to lyrical content and delivery.

[dabbler]

really? cuz the only good part about that tune you linked to above, is the beat, and its not his.

everything i hear of his sucks balls. shitty beats (i hate that type of "hip hop" that rules club charts these days) and I HATE his voice

ATARI COOL KIDS: LIL WAYNE - THA CARTER III CD REVIEW 2008

[matéo]

I'm not a huge fan of his "Club" music either.

[omega_image]

just adding fuel to the fire

[matéo]

How To Rap Like Lil Wayne « Musical Essence

[Bevvy Swift]

wow good post omega the prosecution rests.

[dabbler]

google fights require quotations

Google Fight : Make this fight with googleFight \"Cypress Hill\" VS \"Lil\' Wayne\"

[Goodfellow]

lol @ mangle

dude mangle, why do you have to be a try hard in every thread?

cypriss hill hasn't been good for like 10 years..... there are a lot more relevant rappers, who are releasing albums in 07 and 08, that are better than lil Wayne.

atmosphere, killah priest, cunninlynguist, brother ali, AZ...... etc etc

wayne is a bit of a goof and I don't think this lyrical skill is overly impressive for the record. he hops on mainstream hit type tracks. If you hear him live he doesn't sound the same..