Upest and confused

[optimum sound]

Originally Posted by cerah

work fucking hard

I had this long essay for you but whatever, point is if she doesnt have to move why suggest that? is that your best advice? didn't you read the name of the post? "upset and confused" this is exactly why I decided to post this:

Originally Posted by optimum sound

actually I reconsidered my last 2 posts and have some better advice...do the dishes and get on about your day...

although there might be success stories out there, question is:how much corporate dick are you willing to suck to get to the top? unless you are a "successful" entrepreneur or a professional, chances are youre gonna be in the middle of the foodchain all your life. Im all about being independent but I rather put up with parents bs rather than a boss the rest of my life.
yadidadida ive done lots of shit and bla bla but I figured that using my brain, studying and ultimately having a respectful job is the way to go. I am also an artist and can do beautiful things but not everyone is interested or needs to pay for my services.
Im not rich and neither are my parents, but I do come from a country where parents have to work their asses off to help their kids with no help from anybody. Here you get money handed to you to get an education but nobody seems to take advantage of that, they are more worried about the material things now and freakin oh no my dad got mad at me for not cleaning. Give me a break.

ps: good luck with school :)

[IntakE]

Originally Posted by TipSy

hey theres my bed !!! lol

Not always...lol

[BAL1STOPHER]

Originally Posted by IntakE

I cant take care of myself.

that basically sums it all up.....................

[IntakE]

Originally Posted by BAL!S

that basically sums it all up.....................

I know I can't take care of myself, I couldn't live on my own yet. The reason Im so upset about this situation.

[Pennywise]

*hugz*^
and a beer:)

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

Here you get money handed to you to get an education but nobody seems to take advantage of that, they are more worried about the material things now and freakin oh no my dad got mad at me for not cleaning. Give me a break.

whoa whoa whoa. we get money handed to us to go to school and get an education? it costs money for public school now (highschool has fees), college and university is getting more and more expensive. where and who is handing out this money for education? i would realllllllllly like to know because then i wouldnt have to work so hard to acheive my education. and i wouldnt have a credit card bill and id probably be able to hit up other parts of the world during holidays. i did everything i could to find money for school, even tried crying and still wound up with not that much.
i worked my ass off for two years of post secondary, and now have to take time off in order to make money to continue schooling.

i do agree with everything else you said though.

[optimum sound]

Originally Posted by mugsy

whoa whoa whoa. we get money handed to us to go to school and get an education? it costs money for public school now (highschool has fees), college and university is getting more and more expensive. where and who is handing out this money for education? i would realllllllllly like to know because then i wouldnt have to work so hard to acheive my education. and i wouldnt have a credit card bill and id probably be able to hit up other parts of the world during holidays. i did everything i could to find money for school, even tried crying and still wound up with not that much.
i worked my ass off for two years of post secondary, and now have to take time off in order to make money to continue schooling.

i do agree with everything else you said though.

Student loans my friend, they have been kind to me. Im from Chile and theres absolutely no way to afford school but on your own. This is where my "handed down" comment came from, theres options. Of course the loans are related to your personal credit.

[optimum sound]

Also I forgot to ask you if you live on your own and such. It makes a big difference.

[IntakE]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

Here you get money handed to you to get an education but nobody seems to take advantage of that, they are more worried about the material things now and freakin oh no my dad got mad at me for not cleaning. Give me a break.

How do you know my parents give me money?
I work I give MY parents money
so fucking give me a break buddy.
I pay my phone bill I practicly pay rent.
like fuck ya while I was younger my parnets bought me shit
but hell I never had all the shit I wanted Im not fuckign spoilt like that
I work and pay for my own shit.
Yes my dad got mad at me for doing the dishes. I think it's a stupid reason for him to get mad at me but w/e he did. I did them the next morning. I also apoligized for to him and have been helping out more to try and make things better.

[stephen_c]

holy shit people. give the girl a break.

[optimum sound]

Originally Posted by IntakE

How do you know my parents give me money?
I work I give MY parents money
so fucking give me a break buddy.
I pay my phone bill I practicly pay rent.
like fuck ya while I was younger my parnets bought me shit
but hell I never had all the shit I wanted Im not fuckign spoilt like that
I work and pay for my own shit.
Yes my dad got mad at me for doing the dishes. I think it's a stupid reason for him to get mad at me but w/e he did. I did them the next morning. I also apoligized for to him and have been helping out more to try and make things better.

I dont hink you read thru or maybe I wrote it messy...Here in CANADA you get help from the government. Where I come from you dont. I apologize for the confusion, didnt mean to offend you.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

I had this long essay for you but whatever, point is if she doesnt have to move why suggest that? is that your best advice? didn't you read the name of the post? "upset and confused" this is exactly why I decided to post this:

She suggests it because it's good advice.

I haven't been really happy with my station in life until I got my shit together and moved out of my parents' basement.

Now, for once, I'm happy with where I am.

[thechix0r]

My mom and I fight constantly and it's always over who cleans what in the house. Most of the time I notice she does it when she has shit going on in her life. You're probably just an easy target. I am thinking about moving out soon though, maybe not with in the next 6 months, but after that. I honestly think we get along better when we aren't around each other as much. Let him have a breather, you think about your stuff and it will pass. Parents always will love you, it's inevitable. just try to make the effort to do the dishes... meh, I try to and I mean, even still there is something else I've done wrong. Murphy's law right. Hang in there. He's probably going through something right now, it will pass

[optimum sound]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

She suggests it because it's good advice.

I haven't been really happy with my station in life until I got my shit together and moved out of my parents' basement.

Now, for once, I'm happy with where I am.

Like I said before pros and cons on this issue. Depends on the person and what they want out of life. I didnt think that was the best advice for someone who is confused. Let them figure it out on their own and in time they will do what they feel is best for them. Im done in here, for some reason Im getting myself in trouble.

[thechix0r]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

Like I said before pros and cons on this issue. Depends on the person and what they want out of life. I didnt think that was the best advice for someone who is confused. Let them figure it out on their own and in time they will do what they feel is best for them. Im done in here, for some reason Im getting myself in trouble.

Meh, you're just stating your opinion, and she said earlier that she wasn't ready to take care of herself, so really she doesn' thave many options :P

[cerah]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

Student loans my friend, they have been kind to me. Im from Chile and theres absolutely no way to afford school but on your own. This is where my "handed down" comment came from, theres options. Of course the loans are related to your personal credit.

FYI... student loans do have to be repaid... with interest might I add. So it's not "free money" it's a loan. In fact you'll prolly end up spending more money on education having to repay your loan and the insane interest charges that begin accumulating as soon as you're done school.

[cerah]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

I had this long essay for you but whatever, point is if she doesnt have to move why suggest that? is that your best advice? didn't you read the name of the post?

Because moving could help her? It helped me and a lot of other people... in fact I can't really think of anyone (off the top of my head) who's had it worse after moving out. It's advice... it's an option... that's why I offered it because she was "upset & confused".

although there might be success stories out there, question is:how much corporate dick are you willing to suck to get to the top? unless you are a "successful" entrepreneur or a professional, chances are youre gonna be in the middle of the foodchain all your life. Im all about being independent but I rather put up with parents bs rather than a boss the rest of my life.
yadidadida ive done lots of shit and bla bla but I figured that using my brain, studying and ultimately having a respectful job is the way to go. I am also an artist and can do beautiful things but not everyone is interested or needs to pay for my services.

I will never suck dick... sell myself out... suck up to... or otherwise compromise myself and what I stand for to get a job or a promotion. People who do shit like that sicken me. If my hard work can't be appreciated then fuck them... I'll find somewhere else to work.

So dental school is using your brain and engineering isn't? I think we might have differeing opinions on that one. I look to make some serious coin in my profession. I hope to take more then the two years I'll be starting in September. I intend on spacing it out so I can have a life... and travel... and enjoy myself... not wake up every morning for something as insignificant as a "job".

Im not rich and neither are my parents, but I do come from a country where parents have to work their asses off to help their kids with no help from anybody.

You think my parents didn't bust their asses to save and move to Canada so we could have a better life? You think that my parents and family didn't struggle to provide for us and make sure we'd have an education and a good life? You aren't the only immigrant in Canada... and your parets aren't the only ones that've work hard. Kudos to them and you though for wanting something more out of life. If more people worked hard this world would be a lot better place instead of being full of fat lazy materialistic fuckers that watch TV and consume garbage all day.

ps: good luck with school :)

Thanks :D Hope you do well too!

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by optimum sound

Student loans my friend, they have been kind to me. Im from Chile and theres absolutely no way to afford school but on your own. This is where my "handed down" comment came from, theres options. Of course the loans are related to your personal credit.

like its been said before, student loans are not free money in any case. they are a fuckin burden. intrest is sickening on them, and i would never want to be tied down in that situation after i am done my education. plus they are not the easiest to get. yes i live at home. meaning i dont qualify because the gov't doesnt recognize that although both my parents technically work, my dad is on long term disability and will be for the rest of his life and receives 40% of his origional income and apparently theya re supposed to support and pay for two kids in post secondary? our lovely gov't made it clear to me (i learned this by talking to finacail councilors at school) that to receive money fromt hem while at home i would need to have a dependant - a kid at 20. not really in my book of "things to do before im 25". it took me crying, and bringing medical documents to my school about my dads condition, bringing in receits for my school expenses (im an art student, they add up quickley) and demanding answers and help for about three weeks until they said that they might be able to help. fortunately i received a bursary. yes, it was worth all the work i put into it as i was able to stay in school (if i didnt receive it, i had absolutely no way of paying for school) but i cost me so much emotional stress.
money for education in canada does not come easily. my parents have worked there asses off all their lives as well doing eveyrthing they could to provide a life for my brother and myself that was as good as they could make it. my mom over came alot to get to where she is and to give me the advantages i have now. my parents have also taught me what debt is, and how hard it can be to get out of it. so i choose to hopefully never dive too deep into it, hence the not moving out to go to school to receive a student loan.
the only money that has been handed to me by the government came out of my dads pocket through the canadian pension plan. andi only get that if im a full time student. and its not much to shake a stick at, and i only have a certain amount that i can receive in total and it comes in monthly payments. at first i thought great free money, then i realized that its not, its my dads money from all the years he worked his ass off at a job he never really enjoyed.
maybe im completely blinded because i grew up in canada with benefits i could never appreciate until i left this country, but i just dont see post-secondary being as easy to afford or to acheive as you make it out to be. i dont know anyone who pays for school themselves - with loans or money they make - who feels that it was an easy accomplishment. its most deffinately something to be proud of.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by IntakE

I don’t even know what to think about things anymore. I thought I had things going great for so long and in the past few weeks I've been realising how shitty things are actually going. My dad and I got into a small fight today and I just thought it was the normal fight that we have, then my mom calls me and tells me that my dad's thinking of kicking me out of the house if I don’t change things. The thing he's freaking out about is the fact that I didn’t wash dishes last night. The fact that he's thinking about kicking me out over dishes makes me so upset. He always said that he would never kick me out. This is the second time in a few months that he's said this. I love my dad more than anything. Im just scared that he would actually kick me out I mean I wouldn't know what to do I'd have no where to go. Im going to be out of work next week, and Im looking for a new job but still. Im so scared I cant take care of myself. I just hope that things get better and I hope that I'll still have a house to live at when he gets home and that it's just an empty threat like last time. I try do keep him happy and help the best I can around the house I guess Im just not doing a good enough job and should try harder so I can still live with my

Have you ever taken ecstacy? Ironic question to be asking this here...

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by IntakE

I know I can't take care of myself, I couldn't live on my own yet. The reason Im so upset about this situation.

You're 18, I was on my own when I was 18 and didn't think I was ready. The thing is, you'll never think you're ready or you can until you do.

[TipSy]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

holy shit people. give the girl a break.

agreeed..!

[Jacenta]

Well this is what I think... I think that you should TALK to your dad and tell him how upset he is making you about this and that you'll try to remember to wash the dishes. Also tell him how you think that kicking you out is a little over the extreme because you just didn't wash the dishes. Maybe something else is bothering him that you just don't know about and ask him. Maybe "not washing the dishes" is a cover for something else that is bothering him about you that he is not able to talk to you about or he could just be taking out his stress on you and jumping to conclutions that are not very well thought you. (ahh reminds me of my dad)

So yeah try that and see what happens! And moving out is expensive and try to stay at home as long as you can... that's ALL I gota say about moving out.

[Bitchin]

I moved out when I was 16....

best choice I ever made.

It opens your eyes to a lot, to what you cant see when living with your parents.

[Antenna_Boy]

Originally Posted by Bitchin

I moved out when I was 16....

best choice I ever made.

It opens your eyes to a lot, to what you cant see when living with your parents.

I turned 24 a while ago...and I still live at home...many times I feel like moving out, but not sure about the security part.

[Antenna_Boy]

...saves money too :)